September 17th, 2011 at 2:37 PM ^
Put it in the title.
Also, shit.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:40 PM ^
Not particuliarly happy about this, but it seems a bit sudden. I felt like his recruitment would play out a while longer, especially having seen his interview with Tom the other day.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:40 PM ^
Wow They are likley to have a coaching change there. Oh well
September 17th, 2011 at 2:43 PM ^
September 17th, 2011 at 2:44 PM ^
I guess I can understand it somewhat. With the OL class in 2012, he was facing stiff competition to see the field early. Tough to lose him, but I'd rather he leave the state if he isn't going blue.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:55 PM ^
this sucks...I thought he would commit way later on
September 17th, 2011 at 2:48 PM ^
Wow, I'm really surprised by this. It seemed like he had a lot more interest in UM given his many visits to AA. Also, I'd think Brian Kelly's attitude toward his players might have made Elmer's parents uncomfortable, especially given how involved his father has been in his recruitment. Ah well, things can change.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:49 PM ^
I think he meant to the game this afternoon
September 17th, 2011 at 3:29 PM ^
so unless he took the mayflower or an airplane I think land means commitment.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:51 PM ^
September 17th, 2011 at 3:31 PM ^
Unless there is a coaching change. Best to move on.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
Kyle Kalis begs to differ
September 17th, 2011 at 4:00 PM ^
"Unless there is a coaching change."
September 17th, 2011 at 5:59 PM ^
Well by the looks of it so far, Brian Kelly is going to have a heart attack soon...
September 17th, 2011 at 2:51 PM ^
I wonder if he caught wind about another possible 2012 commit and just said eff it realizing hee would only get a year of playing time.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:14 PM ^
It wasnt a given he would only see one year of playing time, he could have ended up being better than any of our OL this class and starting as a redshirt sophomore
September 17th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
cmon really? how can you even go there? Why would you downgrade the commits we have landed? pleny of talent there to say the least. so I'm guessing you have seen every snap of his highschool career aswell as every snap of the other lineman we have landed? who is his competition? some 200 pound DE's...just another corn fed farm boy. Plenty more where he came from.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^
I am now rooting for Sparty against ND.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^
Lets see if BK can get himself fired after this yr
September 17th, 2011 at 3:58 PM ^
I dont know how any Michigan fan can say this after the way sparty has conducted himself over the past 2-3 years. I cheer for everyone that plays sparty, except Ohio.
September 17th, 2011 at 4:02 PM ^
Really, you would root for MSU over OSU? All you would hear about for the next 20 years is how they did better against OSU than UM did against OSU the past 10 years. No thank you. I'll root for OSU to curb stomp the Spartans.
September 17th, 2011 at 5:58 PM ^
but you would root for an ohio team over a michigan team, even that michigan team?
September 17th, 2011 at 6:08 PM ^
Any one who grew up in Indiana has no trouble with this. It's going to take a lot more than the last 2-3 years to get me annoyed with MSU.
September 17th, 2011 at 6:08 PM ^
Any one who grew up in Indiana has no trouble with this. It's going to take a lot more than the last 2-3 years to get me annoyed with MSU.
September 17th, 2011 at 6:52 PM ^
it is the big brother's job to kick their butt. It is a push when sparty plays ND though.
September 17th, 2011 at 10:38 PM ^
All an 0-3 start by ND would do is make our UTL win look less impressive. However, now that they beat down a fairly highly ranked Sparty, all it can do is help our image nationally.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:52 PM ^
Good luck to the kid. has every right to make his decision. Lets not show sour grapes like certain other fans down south.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:56 PM ^
I made a thread earlier about Elmer who said he had a silent leader. I got it from an article from a 24/7 MSU writer on RCMB who said he thought it was Michigan. Last time I get any information from a Spartan, or more specifically, RCMB.
September 17th, 2011 at 2:58 PM ^
September 17th, 2011 at 3:00 PM ^
elmer is 2013. one has nothing to do with the other.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:10 PM ^
False. If we got banner then the tackle class 1 yr above him is loaded. no immediate path to playing time necessarily.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:04 PM ^
I don't think he would necessarily need to see another commit for the depth chart to give him trouble. Michigan has got two of the top tackles (Manguson and Kalis, even if he projects at guard), an in-state sleeper like Braden, and -- if rumors are true -- one or two more OL coming in for this class. I think Elmer (and Diamond, for that matter) are looking for opportunities to play early.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:03 PM ^
Congrats to Mr. Elmer for making the choice he felt was right. Good luck to him except when it comes to Michigan.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:06 PM ^
Sorry, but i was doing six other things and wanted to let you guys know. Congrats to Norte Dame, but as always, GO BLUE!!
The future is very bright for us.
3-0 and on to the San Diego State game.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^
As everyone has been pointing out, depth charts are important to recruits. Let the man dream.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:13 PM ^
Not Cool Steve, but if this sticks good luck to you in all but 4 of your games with them.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:17 PM ^
good luck kid
September 17th, 2011 at 3:20 PM ^
Am I the only one not surprised by this? I'm actually not super mad/sad considering the class we are bringing in this year. Good luck to him in the future.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:19 PM ^
Not surprised at all. He was saying the right things but he has been to ND as much as he's been to AA and most of his visits this year are to see ND even when they are on the road. He had also previously said he's a big ND fan because of his religion. Add it all together and this was a matter of when, not if.
September 17th, 2011 at 4:35 PM ^
"He had also previously said he's a big ND fan because of his religion."
Interesting ... I hadn't heard that. I could certainly see where it would matter, though. ND has (historically, at least) had a Mt. Carmel pipeline in Chicago. It's not the only one.
September 17th, 2011 at 4:55 PM ^
God or Michigan?
September 17th, 2011 at 5:47 PM ^
I appreciate the humor. After all, UMich is the school that created "Harvard: The Michigan of the East" shirts.
Still, this is a serious issue in the U.S. For example:
http://www.gallup.com/poll/145286/four-americans-believe-strict-creatio…
Sorry ... that's a bit political.
Not saying Elmer or his family is into ID ...
September 17th, 2011 at 3:27 PM ^
Best of luck to him and may his decision bring him much joy except for one game per year.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:28 PM ^
I guess Elmer didn't believe he'd see enough playing time at Michigan given the incoming class. Too bad. This is a real shocker as I think Elmer is considered one of the top 3 players for teh state of Michigan in 2013. We need OT's and he was certianly one of our biggest targets. That said as long as we get Banner or Diamond we should be just fine.
September 17th, 2011 at 10:26 PM ^
if his decision was based on our incoming class, well i'm glad he doesn't want to go blue. we have no need for players that don't want to compete.
September 17th, 2011 at 3:29 PM ^
whoops
September 17th, 2011 at 3:30 PM ^
Best of luck, Steve, in all your games that aren't against us. We still pull for our Michigan guys no matter what.
I do wonder though, if this commitment will stick. I can't feel too much of the schadenfreude when dealing with a team that we have handled well in recent years, but I can't say that the Brian Kelly regime is off to the best possible start. From "BCS Contender" (not my prognostication, but that of others) to 0-2 and facing a tough Spartan team isn't really the way they had things slated.
Honestly though, it's not just the wins and losses. I saw a Catholic group that voiced concerns about keeping Brian Kelly on as coach after the famous hissy fit. Makes me wonder how long he will be around. I have to think that if he continues to behave badly and lose, his tenure might not be so long. If ND hadn't had so much turnover and so little success over the last 20 years, I think that they might already be pondering alternatives.
If a Michigan coach conducted himself that way (and I were Mary Sue), I'd have had a meeting with him the next day or even that night. I can only let that happen once. Second time and you're fired. Also, feel free to differ with this opinion, but I think that you might be able to fire the guy for cause, thus avoiding the buyout.
In conclusion, I apologize for the ramble, but I guess that committing to ND just puzzles me, given the smart and analytical approach that the Elmers seemed to be taking. Stanford or Cal would have made a heck of a lot more sense to me of the other programs out there. Gotta go with your heart, but I just don't see the logic here.
September 17th, 2011 at 7:20 PM ^