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This will never happen

The Lions had the worst decade long stretch of any pro football team ever and they only lost 8 million last year.  With the profit sharing plan that the NFL uses, the HUGE TV contract that they get, and the new CBA, it will be very difficult for ANY NFL team to collapse financially. 

A team might lose money, like Jacksonville, or not live up to the financial windfall that most NFL teams enjoy, but the NFL does not "eat their own" like MLB and other sports.  

Target

Yeah he has a target on his back after last year and then the Dalton hit.  This one should not have been a fine, even if the Dalton hit warrented one.  Hard to believe that they now fine guys when a penalty wasn't called on the field.

Comcast Around Ann Arbor

On my Comcast (Saline Area) TruTV is 72 or 171 for SD (yes it has two SD channels) and Channel 247 for HD.

By the way I think Nantz is calling this game, which makes me wonder how pissed he is that as the lead announcer for CBS he is calling a game that is being shown on a channel nobody knew existed before they decided to be given NCAA games.

Chuck Heater would be my

Chuck Heater would be my first choice as well.  He has been a recruiting coordinator in the past, was kinda screwed in Florida but was the Assist. DC for years, and has been coaching for many years ( I believe he started 2 years after he graduated from Michigan)

I would slot him in 5th

I would slot him in 5th behind Tressel, Dantonio, Bielema, and Fitzgerald.  I am not a huge believer in Pelini and Ferentz is a mess in Iowa with all of their discipline problems.  This could change quickly though for either the good or the bad.

If there is a leak

I would say that we will find out today through a leak, but I don't think it will come from the Michigan side.  With Les meeting last night with LSU I would expect them to leak stuff out of their camp.

Also, LSU has to be in a state of panic right now.  If they lose Les they are going to have to get a coach, and do it QUICK.  If they don' think Les is coming back I can see some smoke coming in the form of Pelini and Jimbo Fisher contacts.

Completly True

The Big Ten does have rules against over-recruiting and then cutting.  It has a strick 25 sch.per class policy, even when you lose players to transfers.  This also includes any JUCO transfers and transfers from other colleges.  With those rules and his love for the way Bo ran things I think he would be fine. 

Also, this is simply the way things are done in the SEC, because they permit it.  I mean at least he is not trying to buy Cam Newton.

Les is the guy for the job in my mind now that Harbaugh is out.  He is a guy that can recruit and win immediately.

Agreed

I could not agree more.  This is his one and only shot at this job.  I can't forsee a situation where this next hire goes so poorly that he gets another shot at it.

Friedgen Got Screwed

He was named ACC Coach of the Year....and gets fired???, SCREWED!

Agreed.  I am a big fan of

Agreed.  I am a big fan of Randy Shannon for some reason.

Here Are Mine

ACC- Frank Beamer (VT) and Paul Johnson (GT).  FYI- I am a HUGE Paul Johnson fan

Big East- Randy Edsall (UCONN)

Big Ten- This hurts but...Jim Tressel (OSU)

Big 12- Bob Stoops (OU), Mike Gundy (OK. ST.), Bo Pelini (NEB)

Conf USA- Kevin Sumlin (HOU)

MAC- Al Golden (Temple)

MWC-  Gary Patterson (TCU)

Pac 10- Jim Harbaugh (Stanford) and Chip Kelly (Oregon)

SEC- Nick Saban (ALA) and Dan Mullens (Miss St.)

WAC- Chris Peterson (Boise St.)

I think that right now Harbaugh and Kelly are the top 2 with Patterson from TCU 3rd

 

 

 

I agree

This is a point that not many of us have thought of and talked about.  Now I know your sick of it, in which case DON'T READ THE FREAKING THREAD. 

People are going to talk about this, and they should.  It is a very important to the future of a football program that we all care about very much.  I would also like to say that the people that often "don't want to tlk about it anymore" are the supporters of RR.  At this point I don't care if it is Rich Rod, Harbaugh, Bill Clinton, Gerald Ford from the grave, David Brandon himslef, or Tom from the corner store.  The coaching position at Michigan is going to be debated untl we get back to 9 wins again, beat MSU, beat OSU, and play defense.  So debate on, and +1 to the author for a well written post.

Great Idea

This is an excellant idea. I am in.

Probably 19 Wins

I would say 19 gets them in since they are playing in arguably the toughest conference in basketball this year.  The win yesterday was big, because it was against a BCS school on the road. Here is how the NC schedule breaks down the rest of the way.

Non-Conf Wins- Concordia (MI) (NAIA Team), NC Central, Oakland, Bryant

Non-Conf Toss-Ups- Harvard, Utah

Non-Conf Losses- Kansas

If they win both of the toss-up games then they will be 10-2 for the Non-Conf schedule.  Clemson would be their biggest win, because Clemson could also be fighting for a NCAA spot at the end of the season.  The biggest hurdle will be that they start the Conference schedule in a CRAZY tough manner.  Purdue at home, then a winnable game home vs. PSU, then they play @ Whisky, vs. Kansas, and vs. OSU.  That is 3 ranked opponents and a road trip to Wisconsin.  That is a tough stretch. 

Can it be done, yes, but they have to beat Harvard and Utah.  I know it sounds crazy, but those two are MUST WINS.

I was curious about Dumars as

I was curious about Dumars as well.  Just wondering if he will be able to contribute at all

Good thing the team with the

Good thing the team with the most yards wins

Lou Holtz

Lou Holtz at being unbiased towards ND

Lou Holtz at speaking without making it rain

Sorry

Just saw that this was posted two posts above this one...my apologies.

Just heard that it is not Boise St.

It is Miami (FL) in 2020 and 2021.  That is less than inspiring, but at least teams are getting serious about getting away from cupcakes.  I believe that Brandon will be scheduling big games for as long as people are willing to play us.

I

Agreed! I am excited to see these guys mature and turn into some great 3 and 4 year starters.  I think Demens and Kovacs are going to be fun to watch, I really enjoyed both of them today.

I am trying to be patient, but for those of you who aren't

I am trying to be patient but for those who aren't...it is OK.  I think we have a right to be frustrated.  I am not going to sit here and call for RR's job (mostly because I wouldn't know where to go from here), but if someone else does, I promise I won't be the one giving you negative points. 

As for everyone getting on people who are upset and and frustrated and tired, and telling them to get off the board, give me a break.  I hate seeing people get negged big time because they want us to win, and because they are frustrated that we have won a total of 4 Big 10 games in 3 years.  Just let people be pissed, and remember that it does not make them any less of a fan.

The discipline of this team

The discipline of this team is terrible.  It is tough to watch the false start penalties, the illegale formations, and the after the whistle penalties.  These are not "hustle" penalties, they are a lack of discipline.  Hopefully the bye week will clear this up.

He is very good at reading

He is very good at reading the play and disciplined in his assignments. 

7-5 is better...but

Yeah 7-5 is better, but it is still mediocre.  I genuinely like RR (as both a coach and a person), and I like the explosive plays from the offense, but they are still so far away.  I am a patient man, but this is starting to get tough to watch..

Good Day for Demens

I thought he did a nice job in there today.  He will only get better from here, and I think he could finally be the long term answer there.

I would hope the run

I hope it is the run defense.  I like the thought of Stanzi having to beat us.  I will also say this, while Iowa's D is better than MSU's, Cousins is better than Stanzi and MSU's RB stable is better than Iowa's.  I think this allows us to keep a safety back fo help and stop the run with 7 in the box.

As A Detroit Sports Fan

It would have to be the Wings cup win in 1997, only to be followed by the devastating Limo accident.

Agreed

Agreed, but Spielman is very good too.

Agreed

I agree...a chance for a big win next week, lets go get one.

Two tough Red Zone TO

Those two Red Zone INTs really hurt (obviously).  I thought the first one was the most damaging as it would have been a great statement drive to start the game.  Anyway, if those two drives go differently then we are sitting here with a very different conversation.  This was just a game where Denard was not as sharp as he has been, and that is bound to happen when you have a guy starting his 6th game ever as a true Soph. 

A win next week will make us 1-1 against the top teir B10 teams (and, yes MSU is top tier now), and can set the tone for the rest of the season. 

Time to be pissed about it for tonight, then move on and get a big bounce back win next week.

25 Yard Line

This makes me really hope that this never happens, because it may result in a mild heart attack for me, but I would say the 25 yards line.  That would make it a 42 yarder.

To begin with, I actually

To begin with, I actually like Todd McShay.  Ok now on to Jones.

Jones is definently an good LB, and he is one of the more athletic LB in the Big Ten, but is there anyone in the country that has the speed to keep up with Denard?  I have personally found Jones to be overrated and only show up in games that 1) Don't mean much or 2) Are against team that are not very good or 3) Are against teams that simply lineup and run straight down hill without the ability to stretch the field horizontally.

I think UM offense is balanced perfectly to neutralize Jones.  They make him go side to side on the read option, any stretch plays, or any of the bubble screens, and when they do run downhill on him they have the extra TE or RB as a lead blocker to help neutralize or wall him off and create a seam for Denard. 

When everything is said and done Denard and the offense are going to move the ball and score points.  The defense is what will turn the tide of this game.

Now I want to vomit

Now I want to vomit

No chance of that

No actual chance of killing somebody, good luck coming up with something to greet them with this week.

Maybe...but what about justcontrolling the play clock better

I think that we could try this every once in a while, the surprise onside kick is a cool idea and can change the momentum quickly.  I think the more effective way to control the game would be to run the play clock down more often.  I LOVE that we have the ability to score quickly, but the better way to keep the defense off the field (especially with a lead) is to slow the game down a little.  Some of the best drives in Michigan history have been those long 8 minute drives that just make statements during the game, or salt the game away at the end.  Again scoring quickly is amazing, and I don't want us to become conservative, but maybe a little less of the Jet tempo and a little more of milking the full 40 of the play clock can be a very effective tool to help the defense.

It could be an unbearable week

One of my favorite things about UM-MSU week is hearing MSU morons saying really dumb shit in person or on the radio.  If I have to endure an entire week of these 5 topics from MSU fans I might kill someone.

  1. Did you even go to Michigan?
  2. UMASS lost to you by 5
  3. ND would have won if Crist played
  4. Greg Jones can control Denard
  5. You can't play that style in the Big Ten

Out of all of these #1 pisses me off the most.  Did I go to UM? NO.  I have lived 20 mins from the stadium my entire life though and am from Ann Arbor.  Did I get accepted to UM out of high school. Yes.  Why didn't I go? I got a schlorship to play baseball at a smaller school (that actually didn't have a football team when I was there). I have never missed a game in person or on TV since I was 5, and I am 25 now.  I love the school and program as much as anyone and have paid for my portion of season tickets every year for the last 9 years.  I know people from MSU  think people like me aren't true fans, to which I say go fuck yourself.

Need that extra second

You have got to give that extra second to the D-Line for them to be able to get home on a rush.  The secondary almost never forces the QB to his 3rd read he is looking to his first or second and the ball is out.  If they could provide some sort of coverage for an extra second the sack numbers will go up.  The problem is that there just isn't enough talent in that secondary

MSU #17- U of M #19

MSU #17- U of M #19

237

237 in 3 quarters

Some of the Best and Worst Seasons by Michigan Kickers since '80

Best

  • Garrett Rivas was very good from 2003-2006 with a career made% of 78% (64 of 82).  He made 17 of 20 (85%) in '06
  • Remy Hamilton made 38 of 49 (77.6%) from 1993-1995.  He was 22 of 26 (84.6%) in 1994, including the game winner aginst Notre Dame which is a personal favorite.
  • KC Lopata 21 of 27 (07-08) and Jay Feely 20 of 26 (97-98) were almost the same kickers 10 years apart.

Worst

  • Hayden Epstein was never better then 65% in a season and had 5 kicks blocked, but he did make kicks of 56 and 57 yards
  • John Carlson never kciked over 61% including a 7 of 14 year
  • The biggest problem over the last couple of years has been guys missing kicks and getting the hook shortly after. These guys include Jason Gingell and Troy Nienberg.
I wasn't making excuses

I wasn't making excuses for them today.  They REALLY lacked intensity today, this is more of a comment on how much better the FCS teams have gotten.  By the way, sorry if this was posted in earlier comments...I did not read every post game thread today.

Yes

Iowa is a team that has always given Michigan trouble and I think this will be one our third toughest Big Ten game behind OSU and Wisconsin.  That being said they are not a Top 10 team.  They are a Top 20-30 team, but they are not good enough to be that high.

Good Information

Thanks for the information man, well done.

For the first time in JB's

For the first time in JB's career he has the right set of players to make the 1-3-1 work on a consistent basis.  This could be the key, because an increased defensive presence will lead to a more up-tempo offense and easier transition baskets.  It can prevent them from getting too bogged down in the 1/2 court and open up their shooters on the wings for 3's.

I am very excited for this year's team.

On Demand

If you have Comcast then you might try HBO On Demand.  I have found it on there in the past month.  It is really a good documentary and the footage with Bo was shot the week of his death (I am fairly certain it was the last thing he did on tape).

Tulane ran 41% and 43% of the

Tulane ran 41% and 43% of the time in RR two years with Shaun King.  At Clemson they ran 39% and 51% of the time with Woody Dantzler at QB.

I think a perfect ratio this year would be about 53% Pass to 47% Run.

1) WVU's running game during

1) WVU's running game during the Pat White years included Steve Slaton and Noel Devine to go along with Pat White.  Now I like our team, but we don't have a Slaton or White or Devine this year.  In the furture we might develope players to this caliber, but not this year.  The best reciever they had was Raynaud.  All I am saying is that finding a nice balance and getting your playmakers (Roundtree, Stonum, Hemmingway, and Koger) the ball as much as possible is a good thing.

2) I hope the O-Line is the best position group on the team, but I don't see it this year.  They are IMPROVED, but the skill set and depth of the WR is unmatched on this team.  Like I said though, I hope the OL is the best position group we have this year.

The Lakes and the Plains

The Lakes and the Plains divisions would be cool, since most teams are situated around the Great Lakes region, or the Great Plains region. However, it will probably be North-South, East-West, or something simple.

Not Necessarily

RR has always said that his spread offense can be made into a very effective passing offense, if that is the strength of the team.  When he was in WV and had Pat White it was obvious that the strength of the QB and the team was to run the ball.  This resulted in that 65-35 ratio you saw, but if you look back further to his time at Tulane, he loved throwing the ball in the spread (I think there was a diary about that talked about this).

The strength of this team might very well be the ability to either stretch the field vertically, or get the ball into the hands of a WR quickly in space, and let them do some work. 

A rushing game is essential to any offense, but to say that Michigan will fall if they don't run 65% is a huge stretch since the best position group on this team is the WR corp.

DiNardo is an idiot but...

DiNardo is crazy, but he might be right about at least Denard being the starter. 

Last year Denard had a stronger arm and was a much more gifted runner, and Tate was more accurate and understood the playbook better because he had come in early. Denard has, by all accounts, greatly improved his accuracy.  That, plus he has now spent a full year learening the system.  Denard has always be the most physically gifted of the QBs and assuming he can make quality decisions with the football, then he gives Michigan the best chance to win.

As far as DG goes I would love for him to redshirt and not burn a year being a back up.  However, if there is an injury to Denard, then DG has to be on the field in certain situations because he possess a skill set that Tate does not.