Peppers at 10, which seems low.
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|4 years 40 weeks ago||Glen Mason!||
Minnesota is a classic example of thinking you can actually do better and getting rid of the best coach you have had in a long time. Mason's success got that stadium built and then he never had a chance to coach in it. Kill seems like a decent guy, but part of me thinks Minnesota should pay for giving Mason the shaft.
|4 years 40 weeks ago||Hope that Burke is starting||
Hope that Burke is starting day one because Stu is just a stop gap point guard for a few minutes a game. Hate to heap more pressure on a freshman's shoulders, but Michigan needs him to play well or it could be a dissapointing season.
By the way how is Morris doing with the Lakers? Have not seen any stats in the papers on him.
|5 years 5 weeks ago||Standards!||
Actually I think there are some of us on this board that are over 20 years old and remember when you had to be really good to turn pro early. Having one decent year, being a 3rd team all conference player did not constitute being ready for the pro's. You might want to be able to make a jump shot and go to your left before you think about it. If can not get drafted in the first round and what might have been the worst draft of all-time (which is saying someting these days) then you might want to stay in school. I guess those standards are too high!
|5 years 5 weeks ago||Who knows if it was bad advice?||
Getting drafted in the 2nd round means nothing, especially in a draft where no one knows half of the players and there is no talent in it. Great decision by Morris!
Is Morris going to issue an apology to us Michigan fans that called him an idiot for leaving early? Since what we said proved to be right and should have gone back to school for another year to improve his game. The sad part about this story is that choices like this are what is killing both the college and pro game.
|5 years 8 weeks ago||State got every bounce to go||
State got every bounce to go their way last year and they did not have to play OSU. The bad luck comment referred that they just happened to have their best year in decades at the same time OSU and Wisconsin had good years. I think State will be solid this year and years to come, but there is no way they are repeating last year's record anytime soon. My point was that things are never as bad as they seem and never as good as they seem(see Ohio St.) . State's defense was not good in 2009, especially the secondary, and they did a 180 last year. Why can't Michigan do the same?
|5 years 8 weeks ago||MSU!||
I am not saying that Michigan will be in a BCS bowl this year, but what where State's expectations last year coming off a 6-7 year? They would have been in a BCS bowl with their 11-1 record if not for the bad luck having having 2 other teams with huge fan bases with the same record in their conference. Despite their defense last year, Michigan has as good if not better talent than State had a year ago.
|5 years 8 weeks ago||Everyone is a victim!||
Whitlock and many others in the media make a living by picturing everyone as a victim, including athletes playing big time football. Coming from someone who played D-2 football in college, I would have given my right you know what, to be good enough to run out under the Go-Blue banner. These athletes are fortunate for having the ability to do what they do.
This whole notion that these players are some how victims is a joke. You are only a victim when you allow yourself to be. To me guys like Whitlock just add to the self-entitlement society that we have now and they breed the Terrelle Pryors of the world.
The facts are that the majority of athletic programs are not rolling in dough and are actually cutting sports. Start cutting the Title 9 sports and all the others that do not bring in a dime to pay the players of the couple of sports that do make money, then you would really hear the howling from the Whitlocks of the world.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||There is the problem with today's basketball!||
With your support of Morris's idiotic decision you have stated eveything that is wrong with todays game. Go pro early before the scouts can really see you can not play. Have one nice year and leave your current program high & dry. Makes sense!
This whole thing is a joke and if you think that Morris is a border line lottery pick (despite how bad basketball is today), then maybe Stu Douglass should go pro too! Morris had a nice year, but he has major flaws in his game and is not that athletic to play point guard in the NBA. As bad as this year's draft maybe, Morris will be a second round pick at best and then what, after there might not even be a season this year.
|5 years 12 weeks ago||Classic example of why basketball sucks!||
These stupid decisions by guys that have no business going pro early, is why we watch a championship game that is like watching grass grow this year. If the kid was sure fire lottery pick, I would wish him the best of luck. He might not even get drafted and the NBA might not even have a season next year. Brilliant!
I think Morris deserves all flack he is getting for this insane decision. Is there anyone on this board old enough to remember when you actually had to be really good to go pro early? Now as soon as some kid shows a little potential, the kid is gone before the pro's find out he can not play. Not only as a Michigan fan, but as someone that loves basketball, these decisions are killing the game.
How about being able to shoot and use your left hand before leaving school early. The kid is not even that athletic. Wake up!
|5 years 13 weeks ago||The Chief!||
Not only did the Celtics draft McHale, but they got Robert Parrish in the trade with Golden State. Not a bad trade for Joe Barely Cares.
How the Celtics got their main starting 5 of the 80's is amazing. In addition to drafting Bird a year ahead of time and the trade with Golden St. They drafted Danny Ainge in the second round because he was playing baseball for the Blue Jays and had no intention of playing in the NBA. Then they got Dennis Johnson from the Suns for Rick Roby because Johnson had some drug and personal issues.
Red Auerbach should have been arrested for theft, with those moves.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||Relationships!||
My guess is that he would have been more cozy with his relationship to the new coaches if he was running with the first team and not buried on the depth chart. If a player is going to a school based on his relationship to one coach then he going for the wrong reason. It was no big shock when he signed that the coaching staff was on the hot seat, especially a defense staff that oversaw the worst defenses in Michigan history.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||What to do with the OSU Situation!||
While it is enjoyable to watch what is happening in Columbus for any Michigan fan. I think we should just shut up and get out of the way while the whole thing collapes. Their arrogance over the last number of years in beating Michigan, will be their downfall.
|5 years 13 weeks ago||Lets be real!||
I think the majority of sports fans agree that women deserve every right to play sports, but lets stop the bull that they can compete on the same field as men. I went to a D-2 school in Michigan and two of top women basketball players of all time at the school would play pick up games with us. Among a bunch of guys who played high school basketball, those women could not even guard the worst player on the court and were lucky to get a shot off. It is not bias, just fact!
This whole debate is funny! The same people, like the elites at the N.Y. Times, are the ones complaining that these big time college athletes are victims and should get paid. Then on the other hand they are complaining about football numbers, which are paying for all these non-revenue Title 9 sports. Maybe they will suggest a tax on the real successful programs to help those programs less fortunate. That is the way we are headed in this country anyway. You can't have a free market were people actually choose what sports they care about!
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Michigan Player?||
It is hard to get excited about a guy that played 17 games at the school. He was Brian Ellerbe's best recruit though?
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Borges seems like a smart guy?||
This is a classic example of the insanity of the internet. Here you have Brian who has coached how many years in college football? Questioning a coach who has been a successful offensive coach for years and we have yet to see them run one play in a regular season game yet. I repeat they have not played a game yet! I say again they have not played a game yet.
2011 will be much the same offensively as 2008? Really! Do you really think they are going to show exactly what they are going to do in a spring game? Ten starters coming back is not better than one starter coming back, no matter what offense you are running?
I have said before, all Brian is doing is setting himself up to say I told you so after a poor performance this year. I guess Hoke should have signed him to be the offensive coordinator.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Comparison!||
Kalin Lucas was player of the year in the conference his sophmore year, led his team to the final four and a way better player than Morris is at this time, but stayed in school. So it makes perfect sense that Morris would go pro and sit at the end of someone's bench for 3 years while he develops, if he even makes the league.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||The fact that he is even considering the NBA!||
Is a joke. Even Shurna from Northwestern is looking at the NBA. I remember when you actually had to be really good to even consider leaving school early for the NBA. The Morris situation is exactly what is killing both college and pro basketball. The kid is a nice kid and has worked hard to improve, but he has no business even thinking about the NBA at this point in his career after one decent season. Work on your jump shot and your left hand, then start thinking about going pro.
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Not to use State as an example!||
But Dantonio said it when he took the job, that it is tough to play good defense when you are practicing against a spread offense everyday. It gets back to being tough everyday in practice. T.O.P. is not everything, but when your defense is no good to start and you do not have the ball very long and you leave them on the field all day, big plays tend to start happening. Just a fact!
|5 years 14 weeks ago||Former players!||
I agree with RVB and that those guys should support the current players no matter what they think of the coach. On the other hand these guys are not fans like that rest of us like Brian states in his article. These guys built the program and they are not normal fans, what they say does matter and how they feel, right or wrong about the direction of the program does matter. Of course if RR would have won, many of those feeings would not have mattered, but in the end he did not win.
|5 years 15 weeks ago||Skepticism and optimism!||
No one is talking about being a cheerleader, but there is a big difference between questioning if Hoke should have bee hired and ripping on offensive system that has not even played a game yet. That is not constructive and plain stupid. Like I said previously, it seems to me that all these bloggers are doing is setting themselves up to look like some sort of genius's when Michigan losses. They sound like they should be coaching instead of coaches that have been in college football for years.
|5 years 15 weeks ago||Negativity!||
Is there because Brian is making assumptions even though Brady Hoke has yet to coach one game yet at Michigan. This is the kind of crap that we do not need in our fan base. Sure it is fine to second guess and debate what they should have done, but I repeat they have not even played a game yet. All Brian and some others on this board are doing is setting themselves up as "I told you so" when Michigan loses their first game. I am sorry, but I would highly doubt if most of these know it alls on this board have ever played a down of football in their lives. They sound like some stat geeks that sit at their computer all day.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||Looking at the positive!||
These criminals are better off at MSU than playing basketball at K-Zoo central. Their coach sat a starter and 2 key reserves for the title game for being late for a curfew. Heck at State they would make you team captain for that.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||RR and Pryor!||
This whole story about this advisor to Pryor just reinforces one of RR's biggest blunders as head coach at Michigan. To put all your eggs into getting this kid and having no real back up plan for QB in the first year was a huge mistake. The more that comes out, Pryor was not worth the trouble.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||Say what?||
When healthy Lucas is not a great athlete and does not have a great first step? I must have been watching a different player these last 4 years. While he is not the biggest guy, when he is healthy he has game changing speed. Also, Lucas is a way better shooter than Morris is right now. Another example why this topic of Morris going pro is a joke. He had a nice sophmore year, but is hardly an elite player as this point in his career. Lucas was player of the year in the conference his sophmore year and led his team to the final four and did not go pro.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||And Jim Tressel did not know anything either!||
Fisher did not know anything? Come on! You are the head coach of a major basketball program and you do not know that who this Ed Martin is or that your players are driving around in $35,000 vehicles. It is his job to know. He hired Perry Watson and everything that came along with him. This is not about kids getting in trouble at a bar some night, this about players taking thousands of dollars illegally.
Watch the movie "Blue Chips" and will see that Nick Nolte's character is Steve Fisher. A coach under tremendous pressure to win and he just steps back and says "I do not care how the players get, just let them come." Bacon's article is right on and Fisher has never been a man to set up to admit what he did.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||One of the greats!||
Beckmann is one of the great annoucers in Michigan history and I find myself turning the T.V. down to listen to him. It is interesting that people on this forum have a problem with his political views and being associated with the university. Fine lets kick everyone associated with the university out of it that is a political acivist. Guaranteed that 90% of them are on the opposite end of the spectrum than Frank. Where were all these people when we had that self proclaimed huge liberal in Tommy Amacker coaching the team?
|5 years 18 weeks ago||What is the color of the sky in your world?||
Fisher was too naive? That is the problem all Michigan fans have with him, is that he is a liar. If we are going to call Tressel a liar, then Fisher is right in front of him. He has never come clean about what he did at Michigan, just like Webber and left the program in ruin. That is the truth, not blaming anyone. If Fisher did not know what was going on or who Ed Martin was, than he is the stupidiest coach in the country.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||Very Funny!||
It seems everyone on this site including the smarter than everyone Brian has a problem with Beckmann's political views. Proof that it easier to be a liberal and act like you really care about everyone, than it is being a conservative. Goes back to the old saying; "If you are 20 and not a liberal, you do not have a heart." "If you are over 40 and not a conservative you do not have a brain." Wait to you get out of our educational system for a few years guys and out in the real world.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||Not to hate on Stu!||
But what team where you watching this year when stating that he does not turn the ball over? He had 2 turnovers sunday in the first 2 minutes of the game. He barely gets the ball up court against pressure all the time. I cringe every time he drives baseline and gets up in the air with no place to go. He is what he is! A limted player that is trying his best, but clearly not a Big Ten caliber player.
Again with Novak at the 4. Yes, it worked ok this year, but I thought the idea was to get better. Duke outboarded Michigan 2-1 sunday, besides the numerous easy lobs inside for bunnys. If Novak was able to get that last rebound before it went out of bounds sunday, we might be talking about playing Arizona and not about next year right now. God love him and he has a place in the line up, but Michigan has to go bigger next year.
|5 years 18 weeks ago||Improvement?||
If Douglass is going to log as many minutes as you say I do not see that as a good thing for the team. This year he might have been the best on the ball defender, that does not mean next he is going to be and others will not step up their defense. Douglass is the logical canidate to take a huge hit in minutes. He will not be the only ball handler besiders Morris. Also, he is almost invisible offensively (when he is not turning the ball over) and taking him out of the line up they can go bigger. Which means that Smotryz plays the 4 and Novak goes to the 3. They got killed on the boards on sunday and many other games, so now that all the big men are a year older they can have nice rotation at the 4 and 5 spots. This years line up worked for the most part, but it should not be the line up going forward.