We are doomed.
Darius Morris projected in early 2nd round
good for him, bad for the rest of us.
This isn't the NFL. Being a second-round pick in the NBA sucks.
He's right. First round = guaranteed contract. 2nd round not a dime is guaranteed. If you're Darius, you don't go unless you're 100% certain you're a first round pick.
...for NBA riches if there is not going to be an NBA season? The NBA labor situation is worse than the NFL, if you can imagine that.
Besides, one more year like this past year and Morris is a first rounder easy.
All that said, if Morris does leave Trey Burke had better be all that.
I know that would be almost as crazy as Donovan Warren leaving for...
The good news for us is that the site appears to be crap. I haven't even really looked it over, just checked who my hometown Wizards were projected to draft:
#3 overall PG from Duke.
So this site thinks a team that drafted John Wall at PG #1 overall last year is going to use the #3 overall pick on the same position? Credibility immediately lost without even scratching the surface of their work.
Millen is doing the draft for The Wizards. They are going to stockpile lottery point guards.
"Wait, there's no wide receivers in baskeball??? How... disappointing."
The point of NBAdraft.net is just essentially to rate the prospects; the teams that are drafting just change whenever they update the site based on the standings at the time. So don't write them off completely just because of that.
That being said...Draftexpress.com is a far more reputable site than NBAdraft.net, and their projection of Darius is in the 50s, which seems to correlate more with most other expectations at this point.
That site's had him going around there for months. They also claimed Morris had indicated he'd go pro months ago but conveniently could not provide any sources to support that.
We are not doomed. All this speculation has come from Morris's brother who openly said Darius was not hiring an agent and wanted to gain a familiarity with the draft process and collect feedback on his game. Until such a time as that changes, it isn't worth panicking over.
Everyone seems to think that he's going to find out he's better off coming back. One reason given is that he needs more size which is ridiculous. He's a huge PG. He's the biggest pure point guard on that mock draft board and that's a big reason scouts like him so much.
The other reason given is that he needs to work on his outside shot, which is a legitimate knock on his game. He's a lot like Rondo after his sophomore year but already a better FT shooter and distributor (not quite as good at defense but he has the length). With a three point shot he could be a lottery pick and an NBA starter but there's no gaurantee that'll happen next year at UM and the question is whether he's better off developing that skill in college. If he's not going to class and is getting paid to shoot all day long, why not go to the NBA? If he can make a team, which I'm sure he can, it might be better for his long term growth to go pro.
The biggest concern I have is his relationship with Beilein. We all saw the body language and chemistry between them this year. They constantly seemed frustrated with each other and Beilein sat him for the start of the Purdue game. I just hope he actually wants to play for JB for another year. It seems like Michigan has been great for his development so far but who is to say a full-time basketball job with NBA coaches isn't better?
I really hope he comes back though. This team has a good chance for a BTT title and long tourney run with him.
Who is arguing that he's not big enough? I've never heard anyone say that. The knocks on him are more that 1) he's not particularly quick, 2). he lacks range on his shot, 3) he's not that good with his off-hand and 4) his on-the-ball defense is shaky.
Basically just say Darius is like Rondo was at the same point, only better?
I'm with you. I hope that wasn't actually said. Rajon Rondo is an absolute freak of nature. Darius is not a freak of nature, he's "just" a good college player. Rondo's career arc is probably out of reach for Darius.
My man this is good news. It is rare players leave for the NBA to be 2nd round picks. There are no guaranteed contracts and early 2nd round can easily fall to undrafted. see Manny
"If that site is accurate, and they generall are, Morris should go pro."
It depends. He could be a lottery pick if he stays.
Between 16, and 31...
I sure hope this is sarcasm. http://www.nbadraft.net/2010mock_draft Check pick #53. Mock drafts mean pretty much nothing outside of the lottery, and mean absolutely nothing in the 2nd round.
check out #53 on the current-year list. oh what might have been.
Funny you mentioned that, a friend and I were discussing that today. Who would've been better to guard the Plumlees than Benzing? He would've been immensely helpful on the glass against Dook.
How am I supposed to hate the heat if darius is the starting point guard?
wasnt manny harris projectd as late 1st round? (i could be wrong)
then look what happend...Undrafted.
Just the Cavs.
Manny worked hard, gave us a great 2008-09 season, and certainly wasn't solely responsible for the disappointing 2009-10 season--Novak and Douglas (and Wright and Lucas-Perry) couldn't throw it in the ocean that season.
Oh, and he was academically All-Big Ten two (2) seasons!
Multiple players just within the Big Ten did the same thing last year that Morris is doing now. JaJuan Johnson, Talor Battle, etc. All of them came back. It would be extremely surprising for Morris to leave, no matter what you read. Unless it has quotes from Morris himself, I wouldn't worry much about this.
I'm with you. Also, he's not hiring an agent...so it's probably [gulp, fingers crossed] just a matter of him doing some due-diligence--the old "testing the waters."
[EDIT: whoops..meant to reply to Yesman (above). Sorry]
He needs a little polishing (left hand, long range shot) but the combination of his size and potential will surely get him drafted.
With that said, he could very well end up as a lottery pick with another year in school.
I don't see Morris as a lottery pick, then again, I didn't see Mateen Cleaves as a lottery pick either. Come back and lead your team to a national title and you will be a lottery pick Darius.
He doesn't have that athleticism that NBA teams love in a G especially when there's new waves of PG who have freakish athleticism like Rose, Wall, Jennings, Westbrook, etc. Morris is a steady PG who can handle the ball and pass. His ceiling is mid-1st rounder.
He's not leaving IMO. He has so much more to gain by coming back.
Second round in the NBA is "you might not get a contract." There's only two rounds.
With another year of college ball, he could move all the way up to the FIRST round.
So was Manny Harris.
i can't believe vernon macklin is not on that list
Ugh i've seen this porn before...
contact Marcus Taylor from MSU from ten years or so back. Did not work out so well for him and they were comparable from a skill standpoint.
He will not leave.
THIS IS GOOD NEWS FOR US.
Did you guys see the comments his brother made that were posted here the other day? I think Darius fully intends to come back to school, but he wants to familiarize himself with the whole draft process so that next year (yeah I know, hit the MGoBlog overreaction button on that), he can enter the draft. It makes sense for him to explore his options now and the fact that he is projected as a second round pick should tell him all he needs to know if he even thinks about leaving this year.
2nd round picks are not gaurenteed contracts. If you are projected there, you stay.
The NBA is headed for a lockout, but there isn't a labor situation in professional sports worse than that of the NFL.
I detest David Stern, but even his harshest critics have to admit that he is an elite level talent at getting things done. While the NFL people are pigheaded enough to miss the entire season, Stern will have a "drop dead" date in his head. And he will pretty much (and maybe even literally) lock everyone in a room and tell them to get the deal done when it approaches.
Stern may be the biggest pusbag in sports, but he won't let the NBA lose the entire season because it is not in his self-interest to do so. Also, he has more power in his league than any other commissioner does in his.
I'm glad that he's getting feedback from scouts so he can get better, improve on what he needs to improve on, get constructive criticism, and familiarize himself with the process for the future. Putting his name in without getting an agent doesn't mean a whole lot.
I think he's being very smart about it -- why would he not at least start displaying interest and getting some feedback? I don't want to beat a dead horse, but it would be very foolish on Morris' part to leave for the 2nd round.
Think of the potential if he comes back and Michigan makes a good run next year, his draft stock would be at it's highest. Definitely has MUCH more to gain by coming back than leaving, but that's just my biased opinion.
Hopefully Burke can fill his shoes if he does leave.
means we should be in good shape. Darius needs to work on his 3 point shot and his LEFT hand. After 2 more years i hope,he will be the number 1 pick in the draft.
No Kalin Lucas anywhere on that list (or any MSU player for that matter). At least a little surprising. I bet Kalin Lucas gets drafted in the second round though.
is not a great athlete and doesn't have the first step to get by defender. He's a bit small for a PG. Not a good shooter. Doesn't really have lateral quickness to keep a quick PG(which seems to be the norm in the NBA with Wall, Rose, Westbrook, etc) in front of him. Throw in the fact that he's a SR apparently hurt his stock because NBA teams hates senior players.
And that's not even talking about his injury risk with that torn Achilles last year.
When healthy Lucas is not a great athlete and does not have a great first step? I must have been watching a different player these last 4 years. While he is not the biggest guy, when he is healthy he has game changing speed. Also, Lucas is a way better shooter than Morris is right now. Another example why this topic of Morris going pro is a joke. He had a nice sophmore year, but is hardly an elite player as this point in his career. Lucas was player of the year in the conference his sophmore year and led his team to the final four and did not go pro.
Kalin Lucas is a fantastic athlete when he is healthy. He is very, very quick and has the ability to blow by people at will. He also is a good, but not great shooter. I would say that his defense might be a bit suspect due to his size. I think he'll probably get drafted late second round.
Great college player. He does have the quickness and shooting ability to play point in the NBA, but his defensive skills are suspect, and he simply is not a good enough passer or assist-maker. Green was by far the better passer on State, and Lucas's inability to play a more traditional point hurt State.
To make it in the NBA at under 6'0", you have to be able to distribute the ball. There aren't any sub-6' two-guards in the NBA.
i dont think that hes going pro. i think that his brother is just an idiot trying to build up hype about him (and probably, to later get paid). there are probably many, many reasons that D-Mo wanted to go to school on the opposite side of the country. it sounds to me like he just wants to hear what nba scouts have to say about his game...what he needs to work on. that will be...1) learn to go left, for f*cks's sake. 2) learn to shoot beyond 15 ft, for F*ck's sake. 3) work on defense.
i personally dont see d-mo ever being an nba player. maybe not even a european player. nba point guards that can pass like him - or at least, almost as good as him - are a dime-a-dozen. the nba chews those guys up and spits them out before they can even make their first car payment. and they can usually shoot. d-mo can't shoot. he's never going to be athletic enough to run the pick and roll with nba guys, like he does here. he's never going to be athletic enough to even be an average nba defender.
if i was him, i would be focusing really hard on getting a good degree and enjoying my 4 yrs in the spot light.
to spew this kind of mindless garbage.
will get him back. You don't have to be a sharp shooter from deep to have success in the NBA, but your 3 pointer can't look like a 9 year old shooting a "mini-ball" either. Darius has areas that he needs to be substantially improve, and they are the type of things that time and practice can solve. He is the prototype of a player that needs another year, and I think he will stay for it.
In other news, Kalin Lucas not being drafted is absurd. He may be injury prone, but he is also very, very good. Not only does he go pro, but he plays in the rookie game.
that he's likely coming back. Unless he's a certain first rounder, that's the smart choice. He has a great chance to significantly improve his draft status. The extra year gives him a chance to work on his shooting and his drives to the left. Also, an even better year for the team (knock on wood) will improve his status among NBA scouts.
I also don't think there's any significant friction b/w him and Beilein as one poster suggested - that's total BS. All evidence suggests that he has great respect for Beilein on and off the court.
The only question is whether Morris will make the smart choice. So far, he seems level-headed enough to choose wisely.
He should leave right now... haha
The kid's not going to develop a jump shot in the NBA. Stay in school, develop that jumper, and when it comes, if you want, go pro.
He won't leave to be a 2nd rounder.
Also, there is no site on the face of the earth that would have him completely out of the draft.