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Darius Morris to Lakers
June 23rd, 2011 at 10:59 PM
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Darius Morris to Lakers
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 PM | 
Congrats to D-Mo, playing for
Congrats to D-Mo, playing for
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:19 PM |
Hometown and great organization
Hometown and great organization
I am more than happy to have a Michigan man playing for my Lakers.
June 24th, 2011 at 10:28 AM |
Agreed. I expect a long
Agreed. I expect a long
Agreed. I expect a long career
June 24th, 2011 at 2:58 PM |
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Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 PM |
Going back to his hometown.
Going back to his hometown.
Going back to his hometown. Don't like the Lakers but good luck Darius!
Hokemania...Gotta catch em all!
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:00 PM |
Cue 90 posts
Cue 90 posts
saying this is perfect and way better than if he went in 1st round
not judging those comments, just saying they're inevitable.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:04 PM |
This is perfect for him. Way
This is perfect for him. Way
This is perfect for him. Way better than if he would've gone in the first round.
The best thing about being married??? I get to stick it to a Spartan on a regular basis.
June 24th, 2011 at 12:29 AM |
His paycheck probably, but
His paycheck probably, but
His paycheck probably, but the labor deal may change things re: guaranteed contracts.
Galileo was also chastised.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:14 AM |
You may be right...
You may be right...
You may be right....but that may be in late Fall 2012.
We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness. This is Michigan.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 PM |
To be fair, if he was going
To be fair, if he was going
To be fair, if he was going to go in the 2nd round, the Lakers/Heat/Spurs were the best places for him to end up. Certainly not better than a 1st rounder, but if he had to go in the 2nd, the Lakers aren't the worst place he could have ended up.
That would have been Minnesota.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:47 PM |
Was it Minny
Was it Minny
Who picked up 3 guards in that trade?
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:01 PM |
Sweet! Congrats
Sweet! Congrats
Sweet! Congrats Darius.
Now, someone who follows pro basketball, is this a good thing for him?
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:04 PM |
AFAIK
AFAIK
The Lakers need a young point guard. Morris will have at least a few guys - Bryant, Gasol, Bynum -to pass to. This should be good for him.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
June 24th, 2011 at 6:04 AM |
New offense
New offense
They're also going to go away from the Triangle with Mike Brown as their new coach. Most people are assuming they'll go to a more standard NBA, pick-roll heavy offense, which plays to Morris's strengths.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:06 PM |
This should be a good thing
This should be a good thing
This should be a good thing for him. He gets to learn from Derek Fisher's leadership. He also is not required to be an immediate scoring threat due to the fact that the Lakers have Bryant/Gasol/Odom/Bynum, etc. He gets to play for a contender which is always nice to see, and its his home town team.
Also I always though DMo was a good defender and with Mike Brown having a defensive specialty as a coach he should be able to gain solid playing time his rookie season, especially with Fisher looking older by the day.
At least he is going to a team with stable ownership that is committed to trying to win.
I root for the Lakers and love this pick. I can't wait to see him in the Purple and Yellow. I hope he has a great long career.
Quick! To the Hindenpeter!
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:27 PM |
You assume
You assume
You assume that Fischer is coming back? He was Phil Jackson's guy, with the new coaching staff and his lack of productivity the past two seasons I would not be surprised to see him not with the team next season.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:49 PM |
I do assume he is coming
I do assume he is coming
I do assume he is coming back, they have him under contract for next year for 3.4 million with another year after that as a player option for another 3.4. I think he plays one, MAYBE both of the years and then retires, but even one year with being under a veteran's wing would help.
Quick! To the Hindenpeter!
June 24th, 2011 at 4:28 AM |
Fisher might come back, but
Fisher might come back, but
Fisher might come back, but they have to get rid of someone. There is no way Bryant, Gasol, Bynum, Odom and Artest are on the same team next year. Out of those guys I would say Bryant is the only safe one.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
June 24th, 2011 at 10:51 AM |
I would like to see them get
I would like to see them get
I would like to see them get rid of Bynum and Artest.
Bynum is fantastic when he can play, but how much can you trust a young center that has barely played half of the games in the past couple years and doesn't seem to have any stability in his knees going forward.
Artest is a really good defender, but he is such an offensive liability that Lakers' fans shriek whenever he shoots the ball. How much longer can they afford to play 4 on 5 while on the offensive side of the ball (Phil Jackson would just stick Artest in the corner to have him out of the way at times).
If they could find some way to package the two of them plus picks for Dwight Howard that would be great.
They also need some youth and if they don't make moves soon they may be left with a situation a couple years down the road when everyone is too old and no one brings any trade value.
Quick! To the Hindenpeter!
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:08 PM |
No, it's not really good for him
No, it's not really good for him
The 2nd round of the NBA draft is not someplace anyone really wants to be The contracts are not guaranteed and most players drafted there are lucky to ever make a big impact.
Looking at the Lakers specifically, they tend to do pretty well in the second round, as about half of their picks in recent years stuck in the NBA.
Still, no sophomore leaving college wants to end up in the 2nd round. The rule of thumb is that if you aren't going to go in the 1st round, you shouldn't leave school. Darius got some really REALLY bad advice, just like Manny Harris did.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:22 PM |
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June 24th, 2011 at 12:34 AM |
We can't live out the
We can't live out the
We can't live out the alternate possibility so who knows if it was bad advice? Manny Harris probably would've been drafted if he'd left after his sophomore year, but would he have stuck with his team like he did with the Cavs? Coming back isn't always the right decision even if you didn't get drafted where you hoped.
Galileo was also chastised.
June 24th, 2011 at 8:46 AM |
Who knows if it was bad advice?
Who knows if it was bad advice?
Getting drafted in the 2nd round means nothing, especially in a draft where no one knows half of the players and there is no talent in it. Great decision by Morris!
Is Morris going to issue an apology to us Michigan fans that called him an idiot for leaving early? Since what we said proved to be right and should have gone back to school for another year to improve his game. The sad part about this story is that choices like this are what is killing both the college and pro game.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:50 AM |
John Beilein was on WTKA this
John Beilein was on WTKA this
John Beilein was on WTKA this morning and said that "representatives of NBA teams" had told him that Morris could go anywhere from around 15-17 to 50. So Morris knew going into this that there was a chance he wasn't going to be taken in the first round, but he decided to take that chance anyway. It's his life, he made his decision, and how he'll have to live with it.
Given how hard he works, I for one wouldn't bet against Morris making fools out of all the naysayers on this board.
Beilein also said: "Darius is in a good spot with the Lakers, and I know he's very pleased."
Twitter: @Raoul_000
June 24th, 2011 at 10:47 AM |
Its not that we are naysayers
Its not that we are naysayers
But lets be honest here: Morris did not go pro to be picked 41st and land in a "good" situation with the Lakers.
He went because he thought he could be a first round pick and sign a nice contract.
With such a wild swing of expecations (15th to 50th??), it would seem that coming back and having a big year could get him something a lot more solid.
So now he's a second round pick without a garaunteed contract in a year where the NBA might be locked out.
Who knows, maybe the decisions in the lockout will positively affect him, but as of right now, this is as headshaking of a decision as it was when he declared.
Michigan was poised for a big year and he was going to be the leader. He could have played himself into the first round. Not to mention he gave up a year of being "the Man" to sit the bench in the NBA or be an obscure player in the D-League.
I wish him all the best and hopefully he pulls a Ginobli and becomes an All-Star, but given his reasons for going pro, he made the wrong decision.
June 24th, 2011 at 1:24 PM |
He might not have been able
He might not have been able
He might not have been able to play his way into the first round. Several lottery picks this year decided to wait to enter the NBA, which means next years draft is going to have more talent than most years. Unless Morris were to make a significant leap in ability, he probably would have been drafted in the second round next year. Basketball isn't like football where all players need to go to college to get bigger and develop their game. They can do that in the NBA and get paid to do it. It's up to Darius to determine if this was the right decision. If his dream is to play in the NBA go after that dream while he still can.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:14 PM |
I'm a bit of an NBA nut
I'm a bit of an NBA nut
and I think this is a great fit for him. The Lakers will be looking for a new point guard in the next year and I don't think Steve Blake is their point guard of the future.
So the fit is pretty damn great from a roster standpoint but the problem is that 2nd round picks are not guaranteed and this is a terrible year to be drafted in the 2nd round with the lockout and all.
He would have been better staying another year and improving but at least with LA there is almost no chance he will be cut.
T
June 24th, 2011 at 4:32 AM |
Since you are a NBA nut I'm
Since you are a NBA nut I'm
Since you are a NBA nut I'm guessing you know that the main reason why the Lakers got Blake is because he would routinely destroy them when he was on the Blazers. When Blake was put into the triangle offense under Phil Jackson it basically ruined him and any production you should have seen from him. I still think Blake can be a decent point guard, but putting him the triangle destroyed him.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
June 24th, 2011 at 9:13 AM |
good way of putting it--at least he is very likely to
good way of putting it--at least he is very likely to
really get a chance to prove himself, and with his hometown team.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:01 PM |
Jay Bilas
Jay Bilas
Jay Bilas is such an asswhole. He just rips on this kid saying if he wasn't tall he basically wouldn't be able to play basketball. Damn that guy is a prick.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:03 PM |
Pretty fair analysis I thought
Pretty fair analysis I thought
Good court vision, good height. Poor perimeter shooter, defense yet to be proven. That's pretty much him in an objective nutshell.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:07 PM |
He sounds like your typical
He sounds like your typical
He sounds like your typical NBA player to me.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:29 PM |
Just sayin
Just sayin
shooting and defense in the NBA > shooting and defense in college
Though to be fair, pro players are also taller and in possession of better court vision.
June 24th, 2011 at 9:24 AM |
Sometimes its odd to me
Sometimes its odd to me
That people defend even the slightest criticism of Michigan athletes like they are defending their own children.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:08 PM |
I didn't see the draft but
I didn't see the draft but
I didn't see the draft but isn't that a rather obvious comment. I haven't seen many 5 foot 5 inch basketball players. Bugsy Bogues being the clear exception.
HELLO HEISMAN!
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:13 PM |
Not exactly
Not exactly
He meant that if Morris was like 6 feet 2 inches, that he wouldn't ever be a good point guard.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:41 PM |
irrelevant
irrelevant
if shaq was 6'7" he wouldn't have made the nba either.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:15 PM |
Morris is taller than the avg pg
Morris is taller than the avg pg
and that is a positive attribute. It was one of his main positive attributes listed in his scouting reports. Bilas reiterated it. Is it a ground breaking revelation? No. Are all people watching the draft as familiar with Morris as we are? No.
June 24th, 2011 at 6:23 AM |
name change
name change
it's muggsy bogues
any bowl will do
June 24th, 2011 at 4:33 AM |
I think his overall tone for
I think his overall tone for
I think his overall tone for Morris was negative. I may be biased because I hate Bilas, but his tone seemed so much more positive for basically every other player.
Greetings from Bolivia.
"It's special how the real true people hang together. And if you don't support the program you're not a true Michigan guy. It's that simple." - Gary Moeller
June 24th, 2011 at 7:32 AM |
Sometimes, I think guys like Bilas who love the college game tend to take kids to task when they leave early and don't get drafted very early - in his eyes, it might be frustrating that guys like Morris could stick around and be stars in college for another year rather than struggling in relative anonymity to keep a roster spot in the NBA.
June 24th, 2011 at 4:14 PM |
If you are saying Bilas is an
If you are saying Bilas is an
If you are saying Bilas is an asshole, then I am in full agreement.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:01 PM |
Good for him.
Good for him.
Gets to play in his home state and with Bryant.Wish he would of stayed but oh well.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 PM |
Congrats Darius!
Congrats Darius!
side note: I hate Jay Bilas and his comments about DMo. Way to be a negative nancy
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June 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 PM |
Good decision, Darius. Good
Good decision, Darius. Good
Good decision, Darius. Good luck in the NBA.
Sent From My Commodore 64
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 PM |
This is really great
This is really great
I'm so glad that he was drafted. That he gets to go home and play for a good team is icing on the cake.
It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future. -- Yogi Berra
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:02 PM |
Good spot for him
Good spot for him
Softens the blow of the second round.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:03 PM |
41 pick? Shoulda stayed at
41 pick? Shoulda stayed at
41 pick? Shoulda stayed at Michigan at least one more year. Lakers doesn't seem like a bad position to be in. Too bad you gotta fight to make the team, being a second rounder. Good luck Morris.
June 23rd, 2011 at 11:53 PM |
Yes, but the guys he's
Yes, but the guys he's
Yes, but the guys he's "fighting" are...Steve Blake and Jordan Farmar. In fact, I'd imagine all three of them, along with Fisher, will be on the Lakers' roster. And I think that DMo will vulture minutes from both Blake and Farmar. Neither have been remotely impressive. Frankly,. if DMo can't beat those guys out and prove himself a better NBA player than either by, say, the end of his 2nd year in the NBA, then his future is pretty bleak as an NBA point guard.
June 24th, 2011 at 1:51 AM |
Farmar
Farmar
Is a New Jersey Net, just fyi. So the "fight" got a little easier.
Congrats to D-Mo, playing for the hometown team is big for him.