Honestly - there were times that O'Korn had time, but didn't have any receivers who got any separation. So, while the OL has been suspect, the receivers and tight ends, in my opinion, are a more glaring problem than the OL.
Given that its a young group of receivers without any seniors to rescue this young offense, it just adds to our offensive woes. Our WR corp has never been this suspect. Even in the dark ages of Rich Rod and Hoke we have always had a stellar corp of recievers who would rescue the QB in dire situations. This year it seems different.
when you have that much competition at a school. It's easy to get guys to compete and eliminate mistakes. You are playing against elite atheltes day in and day out.
But we didn't have an elite QB or RB. We had an average O-LINE
Some matchups will be hard.
Also remember, we lost those three games by a combined 5 points. It's not like we got blown out. And anybody will tell you that a few calls here and there and the result moves in our favor.
Ohio State didn't have a down year even with the coaching change.
We also have good recruiting classes after a coaching change and then peter out towards the end of a coach's tenure. Don't know if that is a trend or was it just Hoke.
I think we end top 10 and take The Game this year to end on a high. I also think we will be the only team to beat Ohio State in regular season this year.
Also, did it seem that MSU players were too aggressive on the field after plays. I saw at least five instances of unsportsmanlike conduct that may have been called in other games.
even though he made two mind-numbing throws every game, he more than made up for it.
If NFL means the game is evolving into more Denard'esque - sign me up! That said maybe Denard's QB skills don't necessarily translate well in the top echelons of football.
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They are on a mission to injure our players. That targeting was nasty!
BP looks like a step up already. JOK was struggling.
Much better touch on the football.
Honestly - there were times that O'Korn had time, but didn't have any receivers who got any separation. So, while the OL has been suspect, the receivers and tight ends, in my opinion, are a more glaring problem than the OL.
Given that its a young group of receivers without any seniors to rescue this young offense, it just adds to our offensive woes. Our WR corp has never been this suspect. Even in the dark ages of Rich Rod and Hoke we have always had a stellar corp of recievers who would rescue the QB in dire situations. This year it seems different.
This year's OSU class was ridiculous - small but the quality. I'm sure we can pull talent at the same level.
I remember in the Mack Brown era, Texas used to lock up all talent in Texas before Senior year even started.
Its crazy how they do it
Stays in Vegas!
But yes, seems like they have been a consistently top school.
Attack them with enthusiasm unknown to mankind.
we haven't seen a recruit get this much attention since Dee Hart
Would have liked to see him in the class.
The talent coming in this year at OSU is crazy.
that's a lot of confidence.
Unless you are speaking from pure rankings perspective.
when you have that much competition at a school. It's easy to get guys to compete and eliminate mistakes. You are playing against elite atheltes day in and day out.
It is a virtuous cycle.
I think we have to pick those two teams.
Sure we can have other teams in the mix. But the point of the exercise was to address the whole 'National contender' and 'Beat OSU'
You can argue the methodology
But the general guideline I went by was
- 98 = 5 star
- 95 = high 4 star
- 90 = low 4 star
Now you could have a 3 star (Khaled Hill) be a star and a 5 star (Derrick Green) flame out. But I'm guessing it evens out across all teams.
But we didn't have an elite QB or RB. We had an average O-LINE
Some matchups will be hard.
Also remember, we lost those three games by a combined 5 points. It's not like we got blown out. And anybody will tell you that a few calls here and there and the result moves in our favor.
Not absurdly higher than Michigan though
- Michigan: 5 over 98 since 2013; Clemson 8
- Michigan: 21 over 95; Clemson 19
They have higher ceiling players. but should be about even. But the rest of the ACC is meh.
But that class is one of the best in decades (if it stays).
Ohio State didn't have a down year even with the coaching change.
We also have good recruiting classes after a coaching change and then peter out towards the end of a coach's tenure. Don't know if that is a trend or was it just Hoke.
Most of the population in NYC is in the five boroughs which are tight and cramped with little infrastructure for football.
Not saying this is a reason but may be a factor over the years.
Looks like 2017 is a deep OT class. Wilson is ranked 16th nationally and 5th in the position - that's a scary lineup of OL
Just saying
Good luck Jordan!
His offer list is filled with top programs - McLovin' it!
I have always struggled with this where I flip between if average matters more than total score or vice versa.
Last year we had Peppers
This year we have Gary
Before that I remember Devin Fuller
While obviously not in the league of FL/ TX - it certainly is not to be underestimated.
Michigan is awesome in all respect with the NJ connection
- Trusted local advisor (Partridge)
- Top headcoach in college football (Harbaugh)
- Great legacy and tradition in school
- Top academic and atheletic facilities
It is tough to ignore all of that.
So I'm not THAT concerned with WR abundance.
Seriously - its raining NJ recruits
NJ is a nice pipeline to have - many good schools and top talent come through from there.
YES!!!
Any live streams?
Don't want to upset schools and coaches in state
Would love to see him in the maize and blue. But good luck to the kid wherever he ends up.
Clint Brewster also CB'ed Long to Michigan!
Sounds like he's one of the silents from the Army game Webb was talking about.
go blue
and we'll learn from this and move on.
I think we end top 10 and take The Game this year to end on a high. I also think we will be the only team to beat Ohio State in regular season this year.
Is there like a forum to remove referees.
Also, did it seem that MSU players were too aggressive on the field after plays. I saw at least five instances of unsportsmanlike conduct that may have been called in other games.
They were so bad bad bad today
To the maize and blue
But I'd also attibute a lot of it to the good work by the line.
He's a bulldozer though.
Also shoutout to Sione Houma. He brings a smile everytime he touches the ball
28 - 17
I need MOAR
over a coach who brings in 5* talent but fails to develop and harness them.
The split M was nice ... for the 90's. Now its stale and needed a revamp - the block M addresses that.
reminds me of childhood and growing up.
Hydrox reminds me of filthy money guzzling, no good imitators.
even though he made two mind-numbing throws every game, he more than made up for it.
If NFL means the game is evolving into more Denard'esque - sign me up! That said maybe Denard's QB skills don't necessarily translate well in the top echelons of football.
I'd pick Jaedong over MC anyday
but good luck to him.
I'm assuming it will be a 25+ class with normal attrition. Under or over?