When is Ohio State's Year of Failure Coming?
Well not going to lie here, I'm pissed. I can't stand seeing Buckeye fans cheerful and shouting while yelling that fucking annoying four letter word. Anyways bottom line Oregon played like shit and Osu didn't. Ohio State came to play and that was clear from their first drive to take the lead 7-0. God every year my hatred for them just grows and grows. Why can't we beat these sons of bitches! I mean it's one football game a year we get to play them and we can't do it? I don't understand it, just once I'd love to see them fall as we have. They've had too good for too long. When is their collapse coming? I want to beat these bastards so much this year.
January 1st, 2010 at 9:52 PM ^
I don't think as long as Tressel is there. Even though he is criticized for being too "safe", he still is a very good coach and can open up the offense enough to keep them in these types of games.
January 1st, 2010 at 9:57 PM ^
My best hope is that they commit such an egregious violation of NCAA rules that it can't be swept under the rug. They are probably the second-dirtiest program in the game next to USC, so it's not like there isn't a "smoking gun" somewhere.
The bottom line, though, is that RR is going to have to build UM to a point where it doesn't matter how good OSU is. It would be nice to smugly know that it doesn't matter what OSU does.
January 2nd, 2010 at 9:43 AM ^
I think we'd need to trade newspapers with them before that would come close to happening.
January 1st, 2010 at 9:58 PM ^
I think it seems so long just because were watching it present time. There have been decades where we dominated just as much or more. I think the problem right now is just getting back to the point where we're one of the top 2 powers in the big ten. beating osu will come w/ that
January 1st, 2010 at 10:03 PM ^
See 1999-2001 seasons. Finished out of top 25 3 straight years. Campers were none too happy in Buckeye land...
January 1st, 2010 at 10:16 PM ^
they were 6-6, 8-4, and 7-5 (with a win over michigan). not to mention 2 bowl games. they havent faced a down year the way we have the past couple seasons, not in the least.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:29 PM ^
They were 4-6-1 in 1988, with only two Big Ten wins against Minnesota and Indiana (both pretty awful that year). The funny thing, though, is that they beat two bowl teams in non-conference games (Pitt and LSU), tied an Iowa team that snuck into a bowl game and nearly beat us.
In 1966, they were 4-5 without a win over a team with a winning record.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:35 PM ^
Makes you wonder how Woody went 4-5 and didn't kill somebody.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:56 PM ^
who says he didn't?
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:05 AM ^
I couldn't find a way to do a hooker headcount for Columbus in 1966. It wasn't the time lapse...it was telling the difference between the hookers and the other women there.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:31 PM ^
They were 4-6-1.
As for when next? Don't hold your breath.
Stop expecting them to falter; start demanding we reach that level. You want them to start declining? Have them lose to their rival regularly and make recruits want to come here and win in The Game.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:10 PM ^
We've been on top before and we will be again.
Go Blue!
Also, who gives a shit what they do against anybody else? Though I shed no tears when the Buckeyes lose, I pretty much want them to beat everybody else so that the taste of their blood and tears is that much sweeter when the Blue crush them.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:24 PM ^
2 - 10 - 1
January 2nd, 2010 at 5:28 AM ^
As happens so often on this blog, I go into a post with a thought to write down and someone has already covered it.
There was a time when Buckeye fans wondered when they would ever get back to competing with Michigan on a regular basis, just as we do now.
Just like that time period fostered OSU's hate for Michigan and their desire to improve, so this time fosters change and burning desire in us.
Take heart in this thought; Michigan is following the current national trend: speed and spread. OSU is content to dominate a currently bad Big Ten conference without adapting enough to compete with the true national powers.
January 2nd, 2010 at 1:09 PM ^
I don't like OSU, but the "Tressel won't adapt" meme is overblown. Yesterday he put his mobile QB in the shotgun most of the game. Isn't that essentially what the national trend boils down to?
January 1st, 2010 at 10:11 PM ^
Best Case Scenario: Rejuvenated Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin, and possibly Penn State all beat OSU next year. Optimistic, yes, but thats what the off season is for.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:14 PM ^
tOSU was 6-6 in 1999 http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/bigten/ohio_state/yearly_re…
Way too much obsession with tOSU being a Top 10 team tonight. The solution is for Mich to become a Top 10 team again.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:18 PM ^
And for the Michigan Wolverines the drought is over, they have defeated Ohio State in an upset for the first time in seven years since 2003. It is sweet jubilation for Rich Rodriguez, the Michigan fans and alumni. The wait for Michigan is finally over."
January 1st, 2010 at 10:56 PM ^
this Thanksgiving. Mostly because THE GAME is being played on the Saturday after Thanksgiving this year. (I believe the B10 is moving the schedule back a week to lessen the gap between the end of season and the bowl games.)
http://michigansportscenter.com/football/2010-michigan-football-schedule
(Thanksgiving is the 25th; THE GAME the 27th.)
January 1st, 2010 at 10:19 PM ^
Probably not in the foreseeable future, specifically the next 2 years when Pryor is there. Next year they have a lot returning outside of Pryor which sucks
January 1st, 2010 at 10:22 PM ^
Lets take it further...when will UM stop losing in the major sports? Football, basketball, baseball, and hockey teams are all in trouble. I see the other major college teams who are successful and they play with a chip on their shoulder and they come to give you a beat down, not just win the game. When was the last time you could say that about a Michigan team. I dont want to get into a trip down memory lane so please dont post about the 2006 football team. It seems UM hasn't had an "attitude" in a very long, loss filled time.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:29 PM ^
You tell me not to bring up 2006, but it wasn't that long ago ...?
January 1st, 2010 at 10:25 PM ^
i know pryor is looking wicked good after tonight but do you think his career will be all that different from tate's? Sometimes i think michigan fans underrate how good the kid is. he was a true freshman this year and for the most part looked like a very legit qb
January 1st, 2010 at 11:36 PM ^
I think Tate obviously has a chance to be very good, evidenced in particular by the hot start to which he got off. However, he still has major improvements to make (as one might expect from a freshmen).
To be specific, Tate really cooled off once teams started containing him in the pocket and forcing him to step up and throw. I'm moderately concerned because I never really saw Tate work the offense from within the pocket, and I think he had trouble reading receivers while the receiver is in his route. Instead, Tate's strength is clearly throwing on the run and often finding receivers during broken plays.
So, much like Pryor, I think Tate has some concerns that, if not corrected, could limit his effectiveness. Having said that (-- to borrow a popular phrase around here), Tate was a freshmen and he was hurt for probably the entire second half of the season. Therefore, improvement is certainly possible/likely.
January 2nd, 2010 at 9:49 AM ^
Having an O line that can actually give you time to throw from within the pocket without having to fear for your life every pass play would probably help too.
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:50 AM ^
in the pocket. I can't back this up with stats (since there aren't any), but it's my impression that Tate will bail out the moment that he feels heat. That's not terrible, but sometimes a QB needs to step up into the pocket (i.e. move in front of the pressure) rather than bailing immediately.
Moreover, I didn't think that Tate delivers a good ball on the timing routes. This past year, he preferred receivers who are already into their break and open. I don't think he trusted himself to put the ball in a spot where the receiver will break to, but instead preferred to wait until the receiver came out of the break.
I think this was highlighted by RichRod's sideline comments to Tate during the OSU game that Tate needs to stick to the play that's called, rather than trying to turn every play into a broken one.
But, like I said, these are things that are correctable with hard work and experience, so I'm not suggesting Tate is fatally flawed or anything. My original point was merely that, like many freshmen (and Pryor), Tate also has a long way to go before he's a "complete" QB.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:30 PM ^
Okay, let's get off the ledge dude, tUofOSU's year of failure is *every* year. They fail because of who they are, their pathetic admissions, their comparably limited academic status and their location in the sewer of Ohio.
tUofOSU fans exist as the dark, unfortunate, pathetic crew of miscreants that M is compared against. If their teams didn't win periodically there would be no rivalry. Let's not forget the dominance of the late 80's/90's on our side. I haven't.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:33 PM ^
It's been a long time since I've seen a Michigan streak like that of Osu's in the last 10 years. I'm not talking about wins for us against them I'm talking them in general in their overall season.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:37 PM ^
Sucks to be young and a Michigan fan.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:39 PM ^
To live in fucking Columbus
January 1st, 2010 at 11:19 PM ^
That's true any year though.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:45 PM ^
includes a national title when you where 8.
So I see no real reason to be impatient or on a ledge. The Bucks have had their issues as pointed out above. So just chill and enjoy the new year.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:49 PM ^
The Packers made the playoffs, Detroit's starting to pick it up and I'm going to basic come summer time so yeah your right. I'm excited no matter what the odds are for another year of Michigan Football! I'll be in the Big House once again! GO BLUE
January 1st, 2010 at 11:45 PM ^
Go Blue!!
January 1st, 2010 at 10:36 PM ^
well i'm convinced.
Michigan is now Notre Dame.
Thanks for the clarification. At least I don't have to worry about them being "good" in "football" anymore because Michigan has such great academic standards now.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:45 PM ^
It's history, this material, but between 75 and 2000 (basically the years I was old enough to more or less begin to obsess about Michigan football) we won 17 games, lost 7, tied 1...against tUofOSU
We have lost 6 in a row...
88 to 97 we lost one game and tied one game. I imagine tUofOSU fans felt then as we sometimes do today.
Today is their day. We'll be back.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:33 PM ^
You guys sure are generous when it comes to schadenfreude.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:24 PM ^
you know, some day, osu's day of reckoning will come. this is inevitable. there will be a day when osu loses to M, when osu misses a bowl game, etc etc. i hope when that day comes, i will not be as pathetic as the M fans on this site who look for any chink in the armor (see: posts comprised of dubious and hasty critiques of osu's defense, posts rejoicing in the various shortcoming of specific osu players, posts celebrating an osu recruiting loss, and so on and so forth.) i hope that my thoughts will turn to the eventual rejuvenation of my own chosen team and not grasp at the straw of my rival's occasional missteps. i hope that i will be able to find joy in whatever successes and hopes my team can provide, and not solely from the pain (real or imagined) that my enemy may be experiencing. i hope. i hope ...
oh, and as to the dirtiness of osu's program ... one of the rivals is under ncaa investigation, and one is not. happy new year to you all.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:47 PM ^
Please don't kid me or yourself that OSU hasn't taken glee at our every failure. I remember App State shirts down there...I don't recall any Florida or LSU shirts around here.
And please, if you can't tell the difference between a newspaper in the bag down there, and one trying to create something out of nothing up here, you're showing you're education. If OSU self-reported as diligently as U-M, the Maurice Clarretts and Troy Smith's of the world would have OSU in a lot more trouble. You could tour some of the High school weight rooms built by Ohio State boosters sometime too. The mindset of the fanbase carries the attitude of how and what each school considers violations. Possible practice errors? A big deal. Payoffs for players? Ah, who cares...we'll suspend them for half a game...go away NCAA.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:48 PM ^
BTW, have you ever visited one of your boards/blogs?
January 2nd, 2010 at 12:47 AM ^
On the best night of your life all you can do is visit Michigan boards. You comment about our ridiculous NCAA "investigation" as if you never met Jim O'Brien and self-imposed sanctions...
January 1st, 2010 at 10:37 PM ^
It's just a matter of time. There will be a year or two when they have some injuries and recruits that don't pan out (like we've had) probably when there are some stronger teams in the Big Ten. Remember, pretty much everything is cyclical and it will all come full circle.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^
Not as long as Tressel has good lines and linebackers. That is his MO and it wins football games.
All I concern myself with is when will Michigan be back. We need to get back to not committing errors. From there we can tackle better and dominate the LOS. We need Hutchinson / Baas / Woodley type players.
January 1st, 2010 at 10:42 PM ^
I don't really care how good or bad OSU is, just as long as we are better
January 1st, 2010 at 10:58 PM ^
Ohio State's year of failure is any year they lose to Michigan.
So maybe we're in the next one now.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:11 PM ^
3-9 and 5-7 back to back, and took butt beatings to the tune of 42-7 they'd burn down High Street.
Look. It's cyclical. We'll be back. You didn't think we'd keep up at a 10-2-1 pace forever, did you? Just like this streak will also turn.
By the way, that's a pretty good "pissed at the world" rant.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:23 PM ^
Let's remember, tOSU is really thin at QB--thinner than Michigan and perhaps anyone in the Big Ten. Even if tonight was Pryor's breakout and he becomes the star everyone thought he could be, they are one Dennis Dixon slip away from having a three year minor league cast off called a "scout team workhorse" by tOSU's official website as a starter.
Right now, the Buckeye's entire offense is predicated on Pryor being more talented than everyone else, and they will struggle if they aren't able to find solutions after an injury to him.
Michigan is digging out of the hole and we will get back. Next year back to a bowl and 2011 we should be a serious team again.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:23 PM ^
As a young Michigan fan I have no hope in this team, the defense may be worse next year than it was this year without Graham and Warren. Because of this, I expect Rich Rod to be fired by the end of next year and then maybe Michigan can start the climb towards tOSU.
January 1st, 2010 at 11:33 PM ^
Michigan has started a walk-on QB and a true Freshman QB the last two years. They started 3 walk-ons for a large portion of the year on defense. Next year, I expect them to significantly improve on offense and I expect the defense to take a step forward with another year in the same system and better depth.
Don't hate.