What else would you like from Hoke?

Submitted by HAIL-YEA on

We have all had some time to let last season go, digest it a bit and let the rage disperse. I admit after the bowl game I was done with this coaching staff because I did not think Hoke would make the changes needed to compete. I thought the only way out was to fire Hoke. My main problems at the time were:

#1 Al Borges- no explanation needed

#2 Darrell Funk- no explanation needed

#3 Hoke and Mattison-coaching the Dline has been a failure, and the d-line not being even average has caused Mattison to coach way too conservatively.

#4 Lack of a qb's coach- I feel like our teams that have had the best qb play in the past have always had a qb coach, I also think DG has regressed since he became a starter as a result of coaching.

I have been thinking about what Hoke has accomplished this offseason, and im pretty impressed with it. #1&3 faddressed and #4 somewhat addressed with the hire of a qb guru OC.  I never thought there could be a fix on D because Hoke and Gmat were the dline coaches so you couldn't fire them, I was wrong. Hoke fired both their asses in a move that commanded my respect. The man seen the problem and did whatever it takes to try and fix it, pride be damned. I can think of a few coaches that would go down with the ship before making that change. As for the big one #1..many wanted him gone last year, who really beleived it would happen?  For the 3 of you who thought it would happen, what kind of replacement did you think you would get? I remember the post Brian made on pro-style OC's we had a shot with and he was basically saying go get someone from div 3. We know how that ended, props to Hoke or Brandon or whomever you want to credit, we made a serious upgrade. As for Funk, I still feel how I feel about him, Looking over his history he has been with Hoke since Ball St. and he has coached some good o-lines. That doesn't excuse the last 2 years(o-line was Ok his 1st year here with Molk) but it does give him more time to fix things before Hoke would make a change. I still have my doubts. 

The reason I bring all this up is because I have seen some long respected posters being pretty harsh when spealking about Hoke lately, and it got me to think. What else would you like to have seen him do this offseason? A slight change in scheme on D and all the positions have new coaches I beleive. On O a new OC who is highly respected (I assume a whole new scheme). I am excited, why aren't you excited?

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MadMatt

April 13th, 2014 at 11:30 PM ^

You do realize all this moaning and whining on our own website is the essence of what Buckeye and Spartan fans wanted about ten years ago? C'mon people, buck the eff up and start acting like Michigan fans. I look at this schedule, and I see 9 wins as a conservative/pessimistic expectation. Put aside the chicken little estimate of Appalachia State (for the love of Bo). I see 7 likely wins, two likely losses (MSU & OSU), and four toss ups (ND, PSU, Northwestern and the Bowl game). How are we going to do this? First, the O line WILL improve. Last year was an unexpected tire fire even for a MAC level team starting three star underclassmen, let alone a Michigan team with four and five stars. We even know why the sucked so badly last season. An overcomplicated offense that asked young linemen to remember too much and do things they weren't good at doing, and a dude calling plays who refused to use counter plays to keep the defense honest (except too little too late in our rivalry games). I assure you, that will be fixed this year and it will make a world of difference when it does. So, remember this is 2014 not 2013.

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SECcashnassadvantage

April 13th, 2014 at 11:42 PM ^

They are always slamming Hoke for being over his head. This treasure was written in an article by Nick B today, "Brady Hoke knowingly issued false statements in December 2013 concerning the status of Gibbons."

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Sten Carlson

April 14th, 2014 at 12:06 AM ^

I want Hoke to win, not only for the players, but to shut up all the whiners with absolutely NO perspective on just how far down into the depth the Michigan football program had sunk even BEFORE RR showed up.

Michigan is reaping the fruits of being an inculcated, inbred, and arrogant program that refused to change when change was needed for far too long.  The pipeline was drying up, and instead of trying to open it back up, it turned the reins over at an historic low, and then crucified the guy at the helm.

You reap what you sow!

Hoke showed us what he can do and who he is as a coach in 2011.  He took a rag tag band of also rans who were destined to be a footnote in Michigan's storied history and turned them into BCS Bowl Champions.

There is not one disappointing aspect of Michigan's program that doesn't relate back to a lack of depth/experience, and that issue is easy to trace back to the previous two regimes.  College football success, sustained success, is about the PIPELINE of talent.  If that pipeline breaks, it takes time to rebuild it, and Michigan's was bad when Carr left, and RR plum dried the fucker up in key positions like OL.  You CANNOT win without a steady stream of OL talent coming into your program, period.

To the guys issuing ultimatums for Hoke, be very careful what you wish for.  Brandon is savvy enough to know that unless the pipeline of recruits is rebuilt, it doesn't make a difference who is coaching, you're going to struggle.  Say what you want about Brandon, claiming he's stupid and is going to damage his cash-cow even before its wounds from the last regime have healed is asinine.

I've bled Maize and Blue since 1976, and I am as disappointed as anyone.  But, without perspective on where you've been, you're never going to get where you want to go.  Michigan football was an aging goliath who lost its way.  Big things take time to move and get back on course.  Just cuz it's not happening as fast as YOU want, doesn't mean that you have to hate every minute of it.  I think Hoke will go down as a Michigan great, it might just take him some time because of where the program was when he got here. 

A chill pill might be in order for many.

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MGlobules

April 14th, 2014 at 11:44 AM ^

is Hoke's wherewithal. What once looked like a charming lack of polish now looks worryingly like a lack of ability to command what is--face it--a very challenging role. Things need to start clicking fast, and each new little sign (spring game, trickle of bad news in the Gibbons case, more o line scariness) lately has not been reassuring. 

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youn2948

April 15th, 2014 at 12:19 PM ^

Devin Gardner on the Iron Throne with his Kingsguard of Dawson, Magnuson, Glasgow, Kalis, Braden, Bosch, Cole with Miller and Kugler and Tuley-Tillman hopefuls.

King Gardner is trying to win the honor of veteran sell sword Chad Lindsay but will likely lose out to others who will offer many golden dragons as payment through the shrewd spiders known as "bagmen".

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