Week Six Polls

Submitted by justingoblue on

AP

  1. Alabama (60)
  2. Oregon
  3. FSU
  4. LSU
  5. Georgia
  6. South Carolina
  7. Kansas State
  8. West Virginia
  9. Notre Dame
  10. Florida
  11. Texas
  12. Ohio State
  13. USC
  14. Oregon State
  15. Clemson
  16. TCU
  17. Oklahoma
  18. Stanford
  19. Louisville
  20. Mississippi State
  21. Nebraska
  22. Rutgers
  23. Washington
  24. Northwestern
  25. UCLA

Dropped: Michigan State (20), Boise State (24), Baylor (25)

Others receiving votes: Cincinnati 72, Boise State 53, Texas A&M 51, Michigan State 43, Texas Tech 39, Michigan 38, Louisiana Tech 37, Baylor 31, Ohio 30, Arizona State 15, Arizona 4, Miami (FL) 4, Iowa State 3, Tennessee 3

Coaches

  1. Alabama (57)
  2. Oregon
  3. LSU (1)
  4. FSU (1)
  5. Georgia
  6. South Carolina
  7. West Virginia
  8. Kansas State
  9. Texas
  10. Notre Dame
  11. Florida
  12. USC
  13. TCU
  14. Oklahoma
  15. Clemson
  16. Louisville
  17. Oregon State
  18. Stanford
  19. Mississippi State
  20. Nebraska
  21. Rutgers
  22. Northwestern
  23. Cincinnati
  24. Texas Tech
  25. Boise State

Dropped out: Michigan State (18), Oklahoma State (22), Wisconson (23), Baylor (24), Virginia Tech (25)

Others receiving votes: Washington 65, Texas A&M 61, UCLA 58, Louisiana Tech 56, Michigan State 45, Baylor 41, Arizona State 40, Miami (FL) 17, Michigan 11, Ohio 11, Louisiana-Monroe 8, Wisconsin 6, Purdue 6, San Jose State 4, Oklahoma State 3, Toledo 1, Tulsa 1, Virginia Tech 1

Who's most overrated? Underrated? Weirdest rise/drop?

For me, I'd take WVU or Georgia as most overrated, Northwestern most underrated (from a resume standpoint), and I don't have an opinion on weirdest move. I will say that I'm not sure why MSU deserves to be ahead of us, same for at least Boise, probably others.

Purkinje

September 30th, 2012 at 3:58 PM ^

Had we played (and won) this weekend, I think we'd be ranked again; too many teams in the 20s dropped out for us to be left behind. Bad timing for a bye week.

artds

September 30th, 2012 at 4:02 PM ^

Wow. We're just about midway through the season now and there are exactly 2 big ten teams in the top 25. Worst showing for our conference in a long time.

justingoblue

September 30th, 2012 at 4:05 PM ^

Ohio's on field product has been good enough to be ranked. I don't think we should punish the whole conference over Tressel lying.

But yeah, three teams isn't exactly inspiring, although I expect Michigan and Michigan State to be ranked for most of the season. Five ranked teams isn't terrible.

DonAZ

September 30th, 2012 at 4:21 PM ^

Gameday is usually paired with the marquee ABC game.  ESPN.com is showing that as Ohio State vs. Nebraska.  Florida vs. LSU is CBS.  So it looks like Gameday is going to Columbus.

I'm looking forward to Florida vs. LSU.  Both are teams with something to prove.  It could be a great football game.

DonAZ

September 30th, 2012 at 4:45 PM ^

Really?  Now I'm curious ... maybe I was wrong about ABC's marquee game being the Mussberger / Herbstreit game, and thus since Herbstreit is on Gameday they tend to pair the two. 

SC-GA is showing as the ESPN game.  Would that be the game Herbstreit helps call?  Or is it possible he'd leave the Gameday set and jet up to Columbus to join Mussberger?

Honest questions ... I really don't know how this tends to work.

DonAZ

September 30th, 2012 at 4:17 PM ^

At this point it's Alabama, then everyone else.

Seriously ... the number two through nine teams could be put in any order and most would say, "Meh ... whatever."

That said, I really like what I saw out of WVA's offense.  Yeah, the defense is suspect.  But Geno Smith looked good ... really good.

Admittedly, some of that was he had little pressure in the backfield.  I would love to see WVA play a tough D school, just to see what moxie that WVA offense really has.

DonAZ

September 30th, 2012 at 4:41 PM ^

Very good point.  Maybe throw Texas Tech and TCU in that mix.

Big 12 in terms of national rankings for total defense ... and when WVA plays them:

#1 - Texas Tech ... WVA plays Oct 13th

#7 - TCU ... WVA plays Nov 3rd

#12 - Oklahoma ... WVA plays Nov 17th

#18 - Iowa State ... WVA plays Nov 23rd

#46 - Kansas State ... WVA plays Oct 20th

#56 - Oklahoma State ... WVA plays Nov 10th

#64 - Texas ... WVA plays Oct 6th

#90 - Kansas ... WVA plays Dec 1st

#108 - West Virginia

#124 - Baylor ... WVA played Sept 29th

Admittedly not the most scientific list since TT and TCU might have earned their high total defense rankings playing creampuffs.  Still, it's telling that at this stage of the season the 70-63 game was between the #108 defense and the #124 defense.

So yes ... some interesting games coming up for WVA.

WolverineHistorian

September 30th, 2012 at 4:18 PM ^

Northwestern will drop out of the polls as soon as they play someone relevant, which might not be until they play Nebraska on October 20th.  The next 2 weeks, they travel to Penn State and Minnesota. 

They have a bye week before playing us in November, but I want to pound them after Fitzgerald's "Michigan didn't do anything, we beat ourselves," comment from last year. 

WolverineHistorian

September 30th, 2012 at 10:42 PM ^

The quote was released in an article about a week later as Northwestern was preparing for their next opponent.  It wasn't part of the post game press conference of our game (like that crap Bob Davie pulled in 97 after we beat Notre Dame.) 

It was just a couple sentences but when he said Michigan didn't do anything and it was all THEIR own fault that we shut them out 28-0 in the second half, I wasn't happy.  Screw him.  I hope we beat them by 50 when they come to the big house. 

Franz Schubert

September 30th, 2012 at 5:08 PM ^

The coaches actually have Boise ranked. They didnt score an offensive point against BYU and beat New Mexico by 3.

WolvinLA2

September 30th, 2012 at 5:59 PM ^

Yeah, Boise lost to MSU and beat three unranked teams and gets ranked. MSU beats Boise, loses to two top-15 teams, and is below them. What do the pollsters see to put Boise ahead of MSU? This is all about record and nothing more.

DonAZ

September 30th, 2012 at 9:20 PM ^

I was down on the blue turf last year while visiting Boise.  It's bright in person, too.  Still, cool to be down on the field.

You're right ... BSU is a nice underdog story.  It's hard to not like their desire to do away games with well-known teams as a way to increase their exposure.  They certainly had their success in the past with that.

I'm guessing this year there's a bit of residual fondness for BSU ... and frankly, this year anything beyond the top 5 is pretty meaningless anyway.

If ever in Boise, check out the Tablerock Brewery.  Awesome black IPA. 

corundum

September 30th, 2012 at 5:24 PM ^

The AP poll seems more accurate to me. Louisville should definitely be below Oregon State and Stanford (and maybe even Northwestern and Mississippi State IMO). I also like that the AP poll omitted Boise State and Texas Tech.

LSAClassOf2000

September 30th, 2012 at 5:39 PM ^

As an alum of a Big Ten institution, there is something oddly humbling about the Coaches' Poll having three Big East teams and only two Big Ten teams, one of them being Northwestern. 

The SEC has six teams in  both polls, and the  Big XII has six in the AP and five in the Coaches' Poll, and the Pac-12 similarly has five in the AP Poll and four in the Coaches' Poll. Clearly, whereas in an earlier thread, I sat there breaking down their average offensive stats and showed they were mostly comparable, I would then see the polls and realize that box scores and poll votes have exactly zero correlation. 

jocular_jock

September 30th, 2012 at 6:39 PM ^

Disappointing rankings but not unheard of. The big ten has ranked between 2 and 7 teams (including Nebraska) in the AP top 25 since the 1996. We had 2 teams in the top 25 three times in 2001 (Purdue, Michigan, Illinois), three times in 2007 (Ohio State, Michigan), and once in 2009 (Penn State, Ohio State). 

Between 2006 and present, we have fluctuated between 3 and 4 teams ranked in the top 25. Prior to that the range was marginally more volatile ranging between 3 and 7 teams ranked in the top 25.

It should be noted that just because we had 7 teams ranked, did not equate to winning NC's. No winner or participant came from the B1G in the 1999 season as well as the 2003 season. Seems to me that Michigan won a NC while there were 3 ranked teams and Ohio won during a season which saw B1G with as little as 2 ranked teams.

Rankings are stupid. Go Blue!

switch26

September 30th, 2012 at 7:29 PM ^

How is OSU not ranked in the coaches?  what the hell?  not that im complaining it just doesn't make a bit of sense..

justingoblue

September 30th, 2012 at 9:39 PM ^

There were going to be weekly write-ups like last year, but Jeff wanted to crowdsource writing duty. I emailed him about doing some of the writing, and haven't heard back (I emailed him on 9/2, so it's been a while). Honestly I would just go ahead and write, but I don't have access to updated standings and he told me in a thread that others had volunteered as well, so I don't want to step on any toes.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AueF5loEZ75SdEtGanZuTENCMW…