way too early top 25 CFB rankings (a bunch of 'em)
I've put some select teams (Big Ten + other teams of interest) into a table and sorted by average.
USA Today gives Michigan a lotta love at #4 (!), whiles Fox and Mercury News are most bearish at 15. In every case, Michigan is ranked higher than Florida. Basically, Michigan is a fringe top 10 team based on national perceptions.
A few outlets have osu #2, but ESPN has them as low as 6th. They're a CFP contender.
penn state ranges from 4 (ESPN) to 12 (TBL), and most don't have too much faith in Wisco as a top 10 outfit.
Bama is Bama. Some have faith in FSU, but Clemson is all over the map - as high as 3, as low as 13, average 7.
Team | Fox | CBS | Mercury News | TSN | Big Lead | USA Today | ESPN | Bleacher Report | Avg |
Alabama | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 | 1 | 1.25 |
ohio state | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 6 | 4 | 3.25 |
FSU | 5 | 3 | 1 | 5 | 8 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 3.50 |
USC | 4 | 5 | 7 | 2 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 4.13 |
Clemson | 3 | 13 | 10 | 3 | 3 | 9 | 5 | 10 | 7.00 |
penn state | 6 | 6 | 8 | 7 | 12 | 8 | 4 | 6 | 7.13 |
Michigan | 15 | 8 | 15 | 8 | 9 | 4 | 12 | 8 | 9.88 |
Wisconsin | 11 | 12 | 6 | 13 | 10 | 12 | 9 | 17 | 11.25 |
Florida | 17 | 14 | 17 | 22 | 21 | 24 | 19.17 | ||
msu | n/r | n/r | n/r | n/r | n/r | n/r | n/r | n/r | #DIV/0! |
EDIT1: added USC and msu. People look at USC as a strong CFP contender.
January 10th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
Don't tell me how to make a thread. I KNOW how to make a thread.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^
If you look closely, that cat is wearing a MSU shirt. Its obviously a RCMB poster. Awesome GIF though.
January 10th, 2017 at 1:55 PM ^
gives a better sense of where the collective viewpoint on the teams is at.
i think next season continues our trend of 10-3 seasons. not sure if it will be 9-3 with bowl win or 10-2 with bowl loss, but my way too early prediction is 10-3.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:05 PM ^
We either go 9-3 and beat decent team in our bowl or we go 10-2 and our youth gets exposed by BCS bowl team. 10-3 sounds about right then.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:28 PM ^
Yep that's where I am at. And frustratingly it sort of just has taken us back to the Carr/Moeller era where >=3 losses was "the thing" most years. Lloyd 10 of 13 years with 3+ losses, and Moeller 3 of 5.
We really have not had that string of elite 6-7 yrs like most of the blue bloods have with 0-1-2 loss years, since Bo.
It "feels" like UM can do better in this era but we are not there yet.
January 10th, 2017 at 3:32 PM ^
Of course, we also play one more game per season now than we did under Bo (with the potential to play more). Through 12 games our record was 10-2.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:07 PM ^
like mid to late Bo
January 10th, 2017 at 6:10 PM ^
included Rutgers and no bowl game. One of those is much easier than the other. So comparing losses under Bo is still much more instructive than comparing wins or even win percentage.
January 10th, 2017 at 1:56 PM ^
Bama seems too high at #1 considering they're going to lose 75% of their defense and several more on offense, but I'm not sure who else you would put there.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:45 PM ^
But remember, Alabama does this every year; they've lost more than one game twice in the last 6 seasons, and both times the second loss was in a bowl game. They've more than earned the right to be recognized as a team that reloads instead of rebuilds.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:12 PM ^
they lost a ton on defense and simply reload. They spent much of the year being talked about as potentially the greatest of all time (clearly hyperbole) with a true freshman QB and seven new starters on defense. Those top ranked recruiting classes year after year? They matter.
January 10th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
USA Today putting us at #4 is weird. Basically saying they expect us to be just as good as this year after we lose a ton of defensive all-stars.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^
Agreed. I like our roster but we only return 5 starters. Talent will be apparent but so will lack of experience and I wouldn't be suprised if it costs us a game or two.
But then again, Harbaugh, so thats just, like, my opinion....
January 10th, 2017 at 2:11 PM ^
OSU lost more than half of their starters from last year and still made the CFP, because Meyer is an excellent coach (and those motherfucking refs).
Harbaugh is also an excellent coach and we still have a lot of talent on the team, so USA Today isn't totally out of line with their thinking.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:48 PM ^
Dude... Ohio State is among the nation's elite teams year in and year out. Their incredibly young team was better than our very experienced team with multiple all-americans. As much as you'd like it to be true, the two programs are not equals.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:58 PM ^
this year? We were clearly the better team.
January 10th, 2017 at 4:50 PM ^
What are you on? We lost.
January 10th, 2017 at 3:35 PM ^
Why do you think they were better? Officiating issues aside, they tied us in regulation while playing on their home field. That would logically suggest that we'd beat them (narrowly) on a neutral field.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:29 PM ^
the 2014 and 2015 classes, which need to be the top producing classes this year, were not good and what was good doesn't remain. Everything that people here (like this post verbatim) are saying about us next year, people said about MSU coming into this year. No way we go 3-9, but a significant rebuild and an unranked finish is well within the realm of possibilty. A 10-2 season certainly is too. Lot of question marks.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:44 PM ^
They're expecting us to be better than this year, which is just bonkers to me. I don't know how you justify something like that other than ignorance.
January 10th, 2017 at 3:09 PM ^
This year we were sort of a poor man's Alabama. Very good defense. Meh quaterback play. It is more than possible that an improvement in the qb spot could make up for other losses.
January 10th, 2017 at 6:10 PM ^
did you see those wildebeasts last night?
January 10th, 2017 at 2:47 PM ^
Maize glasses Harbaugh effect.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^
around 10 is failry accurate, if not a little bullish. Alabama should be #1 and will be a tough team to beat next year. It's going to be an interesting year to see how things play out for us. I think finding our best 5 OL next year could be the key as to how far this team goes.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^
made me gag.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:48 PM ^
I like that they have that kind of false aspirations. They are not as good as they appeared this year. I like beating a highly ranked Penn st. in their house.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:51 PM ^
I feel ya there but I like it because they will only go backwards. Let's see how they do with huge expectations. James Franklin is still their coach and that will rear its ugly head for psu at some point.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^
January 10th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^
Beat the NYT.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^
Wait, what about all the pundits that had us "a year away" at the beginning of the 2016 season?
/s
January 10th, 2017 at 2:07 PM ^
MSU for fun.
I think I may know it already....
n/r n/r n/r RUFKDM n/r HAHA n/r n/r = 120.12
January 10th, 2017 at 2:06 PM ^
I'm actually surprised that OSU isn't ranked higher by most predictions, considering the talk all season was how they were supposedly the youngest team in the last 200 years. That game against Clemson must have really knocked them down a notch.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:10 PM ^
Probably because they lost some players that really weren't NFL ready, but decided to go anyway. They're still a composite #2. Can't go much higher than that....
January 10th, 2017 at 2:20 PM ^
I think the consensus with the youth and tough road game at PSU and OSU being OSU and FL being early rather than late (hence more difficult for a young team) is a 9-3 record pre bowl. That is about what a #10-#12 team will do. I think it's a realistic spot.
To finish top 5 Harbaugh will finally have to start doing what he did at Stanford and start having UM win games they are not favored in. Not sure off top of head if he has pulled a significant upset in his 2 years here - certainly not this year. That said UM was a favorite most every game save OSU this year I believe. Next year I see at least 3 games will go in as underdog.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:32 PM ^
But I think OSU 2015 was the only game where we were a significant underdog.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:38 PM ^
For some reason I thought we were favored in that game.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:59 PM ^
underdog IIRC. Maybe a little more.
January 10th, 2017 at 3:30 PM ^
You are partially right.
We were favored by 1.5pts:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/11/25/9796784/michigan-oh…
But ESPN listed the odds as even at kickoff:
January 10th, 2017 at 2:50 PM ^
Except Florida looks like they are perceived as meh.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^
Curious where USC is in this - on paper this could be a year for them to take that step with a potential Heisman QB out there and I believe they return a ton of that defense. Not sure if that's a good thing or not ! But experience helps and some of those PSU touchdowns were 50/50 arm punts.
Also of note - who is the SEC's 2nd best team anymore? GA is recruiting like bonkers but its not on the field yet; UF to me is not to be feared until Nuss leaves - boring team. TN has been lost in the woods for years, LSU is not a sure thing anymore, A&M perennial underachiever post Manziel, leavind Ole Mi$$.
January 10th, 2017 at 2:36 PM ^
USA Today sounds like they are clueless as to what we're losing.
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January 10th, 2017 at 2:54 PM ^
I'm guessing 3-9 spots from the bottom.
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