Way OT-Linux vs. Windows

Submitted by Dark Blue on
I realize that this is a Michigan Athletics blog, however since its the offseason I have a question I would like to ask of the board. Is there any Linux users out there? I currently run Windows 7 Ultimate, but recently have been playing with Fedora and Ubuntu. Which OS do you prefer and why? Personally I really like Windows 7, but I have been contemplating a switch to a Linux system for quite awhile. Any help or thoughts would be greatly apprectiated.

mstier

December 18th, 2009 at 1:14 PM ^

Linux. No registry = good. Windows 7 certainly is a huge step up from Vista, but Windows will never be able to compete in regards to long term stability until they get rid of the registry.

bouje

December 18th, 2009 at 1:18 PM ^

But what you use your OS/computer for. I don't program and frankly I don't do anything too high tech so for me Windows is the way to go (plus if I ever want to play video games I'd like to be able to).

BlockM

December 18th, 2009 at 1:29 PM ^

I use Windows just because that's what I've always used. I've tried out Linux a couple of times, but I just didn't see the point in putting in the time to understand it as well as I do Windows. It does what I need it to do, I can run the software I want, and I got a free copy of 7 through my school's MSDNAA site.

wile_e8

December 18th, 2009 at 1:40 PM ^

I'm a Ubuntu user, and it definitely boils down to a practicality vs. philosophy. I definitely like Linux better as an OS, but sometimes it is a pain due to the lack of application support. I always hated Windows and became very familiar with Unix during my undergrad time, but I was cautious about the switch on my home computer due to the lack of apps. Eventually I just dove in, figuring if everyone waited until there were enough Linux users to get mainstream support there would never be enough users. I would never switch back, and Linux recognition is getting better all the time, but I still run into headaches. There is no Linux iTunes. I use Songbird to sync my old iPod, but apparently it doesn't work with the iPhone or iPod touch. Mgoblue.com just switched to CBS All-Access for streaming sports events, and that uses Silverlight, which doesn't have a Linux version (I swear the only point of Silverlight is to frustrate Linux users that were finally getting used to a non-IE dependent web experience). There is Moonlight, but it apparently is not currently compatible with the version of Silverlight being used to stream (and may never be if the stream uses DRM). OpenOffice opens Office docs, but doesn't always format them right. But it isn't all headaches. I never have to worry about viruses. I love multiple desktops when I have lots of windows open. And, despite reports to the contrary, you never *have* to use the command line for anything (although I do occasionally since I'm used to it). So like I said, it's practicality vs. philosophy. If all you care about is being able to play the latest games, easily sync with the latest hardware, or watch sports over Silverlight, Linux isn't there yet. But if you hate Windows and can live without some of those things or don't mind trying to hack them to work, another user would help build the critical mass where it can't be ignored and Linux users won't have to live without those things.

RockinLoud

December 18th, 2009 at 2:31 PM ^

Agree. I use Linux Mint (modified Ubuntu) and dual boot with XP. I only use XP for games, which isn't too often, but as far as my every-day OS I will choose Linux every time. You really do need to understand the fundamental differences of philosophy between Linux and Windows; after I did some research on it and started using it, I realized how vastly superior Linux is (dang lack of app. support is the only down side). I did like Windows 7 and agree it's a huge step up from Vista, but its lack of compatibility with some older software made me go back to XP for games. Also, I can run virtualbox on Linux and run windows within Linux if I need to use not-too-system-heavy apps that are only for windows (thus eliminating the need to reboot into Windows for everything that only runs on Windows).

a non emu

December 18th, 2009 at 1:52 PM ^

Mostly depends on what you would like to do. All my machines dual boot Windows and Linux. I use Ubuntu for most of my daily computing needs and only switch to Windows for work stuff or to connect to the UM VPN and watch michigan football on zattoo :) The days when you had to be a master hacker to get stuff done on linux is long gone. Ubuntu and some of the other debian distros are becoming increasingly "common man" friendly. Things just work. And if you run into trouble, the forums are incredibly helpful. As you become more comfortable with linux and start tinkering around, you will begin to truly appreciate what the OS offers. Literally everything is customizable. If you want to stop paying MS money and are tired of windows bloatware, then I would suggest using Linux. Plus, it is a useful career skill to have if you are in the programming/computer field.

The BlackHand

December 18th, 2009 at 2:05 PM ^

I run a dual boot system. Ubuntu has saved my chops MANY TIMES! when windows decides to crash, I have NEVER lost data. I go in, get my data, totally wipe windows and refresh it when ever needed. I did it as a data recovery plan, Ubuntu turned out to be a pretty cool OS.

Wolverine In Exile

December 18th, 2009 at 2:26 PM ^

religious / political discussions on this website? Seriously, I've liked Windows as a novice to semi-advanced user of computer apps, but my frustration level is growing since my new netbook with Windows 7 can't run my Axis & Allies program, my pirate copy of Joe Montana Football, and has some bugs with my NES emulator (JNES). I just recently got over not being able to play my original copy of X-Wing anymore, so if my copy of Heroes of Might & Magic 2 / 3 stops working, Ima be straight pissed enough to throw Leroy out the 7th story window. But for running detailed STK 9 sims of satellite constellation designs, I have no issues. So I guess I can do my work (whine).

jabberwock

December 18th, 2009 at 2:47 PM ^

that what you REALLY want to hear are the opinions of pretentious, koolaid drinking, iphone-groping Mac users like myself. No? Well, we're here if you need us.

Token_sparty

December 18th, 2009 at 4:15 PM ^

The first thing I do when I get a computer is install Ubuntu on it. I've been using Linux since the Windows Genuine Advantage started phoning home. There have been days where I've had to deal with some PITA, but mostly I've been able to learn a lot about how all computers work, which helps me because I seem to be 'that guy' that everyone who has computer issues calls. I can honestly say that it's more fun using Linux, the games that are available fit my needs (because I play most games on consoles), and enjoy using my computer more with Linux than I ever did with Windows. At this point, even if I did pick up a Mac, I'd probably just install Ubuntu on it too. I have complete freedom to set the computer up however I want and keep tweaking until I have it just right, and using Mac feels like putting on a straightjacket. I can customize Windows, but I find it easier with Linux. Right now, I have two launcher docks, one on each side of my laptop's screen. One has application launchers, and the other has widgets and destination links to documents, movies, etc. When I close a program, it 'burns' like it's on fire. I use four virtual desktops so I can put different programs in different places and keep them all open and organized. In most cases, I can plug in a new printer and wait for a couple minutes; it will automatically set up and be available.

bronxblue

December 18th, 2009 at 5:17 PM ^

Mostly just dual boot. Both of my laptops dual boot - one XP/Ubuntu, the other 7/Ubuntu - and I think they both have their strengths and weaknesses. While *nix used to be only for computer majors and system admins, it is now pretty user-friendly with Fedora, Suse, and Ubuntu. The available applications are now on par with Windows for most users (especially since firefox, thunderbird, google apps, etc. are cross-platform), and you will probably see better performance on older systems with linux compared to the relative Windows distribution. This is especially true on netbooks, or at least ones without 2+ GB of ram and an older atom processor. Still, it basically comes down to preference and what you plan on using that system for.

umengin

December 18th, 2009 at 5:42 PM ^

I run a dual boot, but I use Ubuntu 99% of the time. As others have said, linux has come a long way, and the community documentation is so developed I can quickly find a solution to any problem. If you have a fairly new computer, I recommend Compiz Fusion to get window animations and switching effects similar to a Mac. I use the AWN manager to get a launcher bar at the bottom of the screen that is pretty much the same as the Mac dock. Some people say not to mess with the 64-bit version unless you really need it to address over 4Gb of memory, but I run the amd64 version and haven't had a single problem. My only gripe is I can't watch streaming netflix, because the open source Silverlight doesn't support DRM.

Blue Ninja

December 18th, 2009 at 5:43 PM ^

I've always been a windows user and over the years have become more and more frustrated with windows computers, especially how slow they run in particular once they get a couple of years old. After years of my wife pushing me I took the plunge and bought a MAC Probook laptop and I'll never go back to a PC. Single best purchase I have EVER made. With that said there are a couple of windows programs I need to run so I am looking at installing either Linux or windows as a secondary OS on a partition. I'm leaning toward Linux since I've heard it can be downloaded for free.