Way for Michigan fans to fund players?

Submitted by MichiganMan2011 on December 1st, 2019 at 10:54 PM

Calling all MGoLawyer and business types...

Once selling NIL rights goes legal, how best could we turn our fanbase to our advantage in terms of funding players for nominal likeness rights (e.g. maybe using their image for MGoBlog content or phone wallpapers or something super low effort)

For example

  • Kickstarter like model where individual donors could fund a specific player or groups
  • Recruit a few big fish (Stephen Ross?) to chip into a fund for use of player images for their companies
  • Donate through something like MGoBlog. Each site could establish their own guidelines around how much and who to pay for what kind of consideration
  • Green Bay Packers / fan association model. Sell stock or ownership in a fan club with dues that would go towards funding players based on some sort of democratic ownership driving policy

Some combination of modifications of all of these? Other thoughts here?

 

 

Harbaughlin

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:19 AM ^

I mean it's not really though.

 

Figure Stephen Ross offers $200k summer internships for every 5 star/high 4 star who commits to Michigan. even if 15 players sign. that's 3 million a year. That's less than half of what we're paying Harbaugh. 

 

CaliforniaNobody

December 1st, 2019 at 11:09 PM ^

Why wait? Pay them, then just self report before we play Rutgers. Get em back in time for the important games. OSU has shown there's 0 downside to it, and they even get to play victim while cheating.

Buckeye9Strong

December 3rd, 2019 at 8:59 AM ^

Congratulations on your induction to the idiot comment hall of fame!! ?

You honestly going to keep shitting yourself over a loan. Did you go to college because I did, and I was able to take a loan out for whatever the heck I wanted to. If my kids went to Michigan and our best friend let them use a brand new car off the lot for a semester...you know how many people would give a rats ass. I could sell my likeness all day at college if it was worth two nickels. Of course I wasn’t being ridden by my University who was making millions off me to play football. Welcome to 2019...where football players have become worth more than the degree they will receive at Michigan. This isn’t the 1940 or ‘50’s....hell its not even the ‘90’s.

Michigan players are taking loans...I can assure you that. They are also taking online classes...and none of that makes them lesser people. 

DrMantisToboggan

December 1st, 2019 at 11:20 PM ^

Have a couple mega-donors (Ross, Munger, Wilpon, Taubman level) start a subscription-based business, structured as a partnership, in Ann Arbor or Detroit that boosters can subscribe to - create "tiers" of subscriptions for donation levels. Then, that business pays players to do commercials, billboards, other ads. Pretty simple. The business gets a steady stream of revenue from subscriptions and partners can inject cash whenever/new partners can buy in.

Gucci Mane

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:14 AM ^

There’s a difference between Adidas, Nike, or an agent paying a player in order to profit off of them, than paying a player to go to Michigan. 
Certainly some Uofm players are getting money in ways that violate current NCAA rules, but it’s not helping Michigan much. 
we need to actively pay elite recruits to play for Michigan with money as a motivating factor. 
 

Dr. Detroit

December 2nd, 2019 at 12:28 AM ^

I think I have heard this before...

The problem we will see in paying players, if it becomes a thing, is how much?  Is it standard across all of college football, or standard by conference, or are better programs going to pay more?  Do certain players get paid more, or is everybody on the team paid the same... except for walk-ons, who donate their time?  Also, do scholarships remain a thing or are students required to pay their way since they are now paid athletes?

I see this becoming a massive mess where players are supposed to be paid the same, but some are driving brand new Lamborghinis, and schools in Alabama & Ohio start paying 10 year old kids.

By the way... I hate the color of your shirt.

Gucci Mane

December 2nd, 2019 at 2:48 AM ^

I can’t remember what it was, but I had some opinion that offended a mid and they decided it was best to give me -99999999 points. I was top 10 in points on mgoblog at the time. Kinda unfortunate because I think I have value to add in creating my own posts. But as of now haven’t gone the new account route. 

DHughes5218

December 2nd, 2019 at 6:46 AM ^

I hate that we pretend other schools buy players and that’s the only reason why they wouldn’t come to Michigan. Honestly people have no idea how ridiculous they sound when a player picks Alabama or OSU over us and we start whining that the bagman got to them. Do people think that recruits are begging to come to Michigan?

You know when we offer a recruit and instantly become the favorite to get him because his best offer before ours was someone like Rutgers or Ball State? It just makes sense that the player would come to Michigan. It doesn’t take a bag of money and it sounds stupid for Rutgers fans to complain about Michigan bagmen? - The same is true when OSU or Alabama offers a player that we are trying to get. I know we like to think that we are up there with Bama and OSU, but results show we are not.

Brohio

December 2nd, 2019 at 1:15 AM ^

I have a great idea. You could hire recruits’ parents and coaches without interviewing any other candidates to work “jobs” for Jim Harbaugh! Oh wait....

I get funneling money through Partidge (who was fresh off getting his Rutgers job offer rescinded for ethics) to get Peppers and Gary...but paying 6 figure salaries to the Lyons and Johnson families? Wtf. It’s not that Michigan doesn’t cheat... they’re just really bad at it lol

Jevablue

December 2nd, 2019 at 8:24 AM ^

What I don’t get about fuckeye fans is how they’re pathologically incapable of winning with any class.  Everything has an explanation. Recruiting has taken a long term tectonic shift going back to Tressel. During this time of dominance this empire which O would presume is holy has lost two coaches to disgraceful resignations.  And yet recruiting magically keeps climbing. So despite the glaringly obvious (I didn’t come here to play school) difference in recruiting standards and methods Buckeye fans thing it is just the simple virtue of their culture that causes these selfless ueber athletes to come to OSU to entertain them!  And for that one simply has to pity theses fucks as some of the most naive idiots ever conceived. 

M Go Cue

December 2nd, 2019 at 5:51 AM ^

This is one of the potential problems I have with the NIL stuff.  We will start repurposing the M money cannon, which has been a tremendous force of good, into  “let’s send *** a bunch of money because they hit a game winning kick or shot.”  

BIGWEENIE

December 2nd, 2019 at 7:18 AM ^

Get money together.

Find uncle, mom, pastor who is steering the kid to a school.

Buy that persons house for 3 to 10 times the value. Depends on level of kid.

Clemsoning.

Jevablue

December 2nd, 2019 at 8:13 AM ^

Anyone that turns up their nose at these suggestions should put down their rotary phone, upgrade their dial up internet connection and pull their head out of ....1969. 

Bill in Birmingham

December 2nd, 2019 at 8:39 AM ^

Would someone please show some proof of all of the schools out-recruiting us paying players before suggesting we pay players? Success on the field and, more importantly, in the draft drives recruiting success. If the Clemsons and Bamas are paying, and have been doing so for decades, does no one think it would hit the press one time? I have lived in Alabama for thirty years. I do believe that Bama paid with some frequency in the eighties and nineties. When Saban came, the need to pay was reduced significantly. The NFL is his recruiting pitch. 

Phaedrus

December 2nd, 2019 at 9:01 AM ^

IANAL, but I think we should look into setting up a 501(c)(3) charitable “scholarship” organization. This would allow big donors like Ross to set it up with large chunks of money that could be invested tax-free and it would be self-sustaining. It’s how charitable foundations work (usually as tax shelters because the money earned through the investments and the lack of taxes makes the required charitable donations of the foundation negligible). However, this would be a charity rather than a foundation because we would want to give the money directly to athletes rather than to other charities.

The NCAA might forbid this direct funding, and if so we could always make the charity focused on something else where we would hire athletes to bring awareness to its mission statement. We could do the children’s hospital or something and pay them to appear in billboards and stuff (this would work well because they tend to volunteer there anyway). We would want the charity actions to be legit because that would insulate it from criticism. It would be like Swinney and Jesus. As an added bonus, the charity could hire athletes who fail to make it to the NFL for ridiculous salaries for their first couple years out of college. They could then use this nonprofit experience to find a decent job in that sector. Having a safety-net in place in case a player doesn’t get drafted would be a huge recruiting tool (something our boosters could set up now and should)

Phaedrus

December 2nd, 2019 at 10:29 AM ^

Okay, I hate to reply to myself but I'm at home sick today and bored and this thought came to mind:

What we can do now that technically wouldn't violate any NCAA rules would be to get a bunch of wealthy alumni together and get them to agree to have a huge after-football support system. Basically, we would make it so any scholarship player who doesn't get drafted is guaranteed a six-figure salary for their first couple years out of college. Karan Higdon could work as a vice president for Charles Woodson's wine company. Tyree Kinnell could work for Tom Brady's TB12. A scholarship fund for Grant Newsome to attend grad school for free could be established. If there are any athlete English majors they could work for MGoBlog (I don't know if the blog has that type of cash now, but it seems to be able to acquire it through Kickstarter when necessary).

If we could do this consistently for our scholarship athletes, then Jim could use it as a recruiting tool. It's better than the vague, "you can do a lot with a Michigan degree." It would be, "100% of our players who didn't get signed to an NFL team still started out with a six-figure job."

outsidethebox

December 2nd, 2019 at 9:08 AM ^

Sure, it appears as though, here, as things stand Michigan is in a place of power. As this matter appears to stand at this time will challenge every university to give serious thought as to how it approaches its revenue sports programs. Here, Pandora's box has been opened-and I believe opening Pandora's box is a good thing. I believe that the best news for everyone, in this regard, is that this will finally force the NCAA to implement some real reforms that will truly benefit the players-and most of the universities as well. I can see this demanding changes that will significantly level the playing field by spreading the talent around. There are some simple solutions revolving around recruiting ratings and "luxury taxes" that would add a level of integrity that is surely missing both under the current system and the next one we seem to be heading toward. Schools should not be allowed to stockpile hoards of the best players whether under the current system of in-balance or the next one that will result from the anticipated laws. 

BIGWEENIE

December 2nd, 2019 at 10:41 AM ^

The NCAA, don't want to nail the big money schools anymore. Way to much cash from top to bottom for the clowns running the show. Perks, get out. All the big wigs and family's go to the bowl game in first class everything. They need a good east coast school, Clemson for the win. ESPN would die with out the SEC. OSU, about dead center of the east, mid west, large city need good ratings. It not like it used to be, you could be on TV twice a year that was it. 1 school from each conference to a bowl game. This crap is all about the coin. Just my 2 cents. Its up to the schools to play it how they see it. Oh yea, lots of these guys don't come to play school so that limits certain places. Urban to USC for 20 million, would be money well spent because they would be winning next year.

 

Buckeye9Strong

December 4th, 2019 at 12:05 AM ^

Michigan players are “playing school” you buffoon!! How uneducated are you, I thought a Michigan man had an ounce of credibility and brains...yet here we are. You spouting off like an arrogant a-hole who thinks his own ass doesn’t smell?? 

 

Michigan wrote the book on paying athletes and bending rules. And in case you forgot Michigan IS A BIG MONEY football factory!!! There are a handful of teams with the notoriety the Wolverines have...and they are notoriously a top 25 school for recruits...probably more like 10-15 tho. Do you actually think the rules aren’t the same, that the so called cheating isn’t happening to the same level at Michigan. Ohio State hasn’t had wins vacated for a competitive edge or paying players...so what are you going on about. This is what authentic respectful Michigan fans are talking about when they say fans like you talking crazy are an embarrassment to the fan base. It looks weak and pathetic...

jsquigg

December 2nd, 2019 at 10:59 PM ^

I have actually thought that if I was super rich that I would pay top recruits to not go to Ohio State.  I have no university affiliation and I don't know that you can penalize anyone in the negative.  That program just needs to suffer our version of the save spammed NCAA dynasty.