Tom Brady trolls critics with fantastic video.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:13 AM ^
Winning it all is the sweetest way to silence your critics, especially when your critics are so easily quoted ...
Nice !
February 18th, 2021 at 9:20 AM ^
If the greatest revenge is living well, yeah, I'd say Tom Brady is doing that.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:22 AM ^
The way this place clings to Tom Brady's success is a little weird to me, especially if you're a fan of an NFL team. When he's done playing, I'll go back to loving the guy like I did when he was in Ann Arbor. Until then he's the menace that terrorized my Colts for so long.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:28 AM ^
I will never, ever, understand this take.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:41 AM ^
It isn’t hard to understand—fans of pro teams want their pro teams to win. If a UM player sucks on my pro team (David Terrell, I’m looking at you) am I going to still love him? No, not as a pro. He’s impacted my team negatively. Conversely, if a UM player is a root cause of my team not winning, then I am not going to root for them.
I understand the idea that some fans are so proud of what they think Brady’s accomplishments say about UM—but nobody here is getting sloppy seconds or a raise just because Tom Brady wins Super Bowls and shares an alma mater.
I am sure some are excited to have gone to college with Roethlisberger on one level, but it is superficial pride that has no larger value than unimportant bragging rights.
Thus why do guys root for a multi-alleged rapist just because he won some Super Bowls and shares a degrees? Strip the allegations and the mofo still did it with the Steelers. Screw the Steelers and Big Ben, if one is a AFC North rival.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:09 AM ^
I think the inability to understand comes from some people's love of Michigan which may stem from being an alum as opposed to being a fan of a pro team which comes from what? Living in a place? Being from a place?
I'm from Atlanta and couldn't give two shits about the Falcons or the Hawks. I could see it being a bigger deal for people from here who don't have an alma mater or don't have one with a good athletics program.
That said, I would have expected everyone to prefer Michigan's success (and it's former players) above all others since this is a Michigan board.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:12 AM ^
Well stated and I wholeheartedly concur
February 18th, 2021 at 11:31 AM ^
I think it can come from different places. For me it is family tradition. It's being a Michigan fan as far back as I can remember. Pictures of me wearing Michigan gear when I was 5. It's going to Michigan games as a kid with my dad(and Lions games). I moved to Virginia when I was 13 but never lost my love for Michigan and Detroit sports. No doubt being an alum gives a deep connection, but a lot goes into fandom. My neighbor is a UM grad and notices my Michigan gear but can't tell you who the head coach is and does not care. Work with a guy from Cleveland who went to Akron and can tell you almost every person Michigan has a scholarship offer out to.
All that to say fandom is not necessarily rational and that is probably a good thing. Also, having the greatest QB to ever play the game as an alum is good for your program and should be used by your program for promotion. All schools honor their greats, as they should.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:12 AM ^
I don't understand this "personal pride" take either, I'm not seeing people running around like a Buckeye fan claiming Joe Burrow here. Also nice tangent about Roethlisberger, who on earth was discussing him?
"Superficial pride that has no larger value than unimportant bragging rights" is just flat wrong. Brady's success is absolutely a positive and beneficial for the University of Michigan and specifically the football program, full stop. It will resonate with recruits who weren't even alive when he played here and draw their attention to this program even more than the program itself already does.
Personally speaking in my case it comes from a place of "I couldn't care less about the NFL". I understand not everyone has that same approach, but I have a hard time imagining there are a lot of posters here who care more about their respective NFL fandom than U of M, perhaps I'm wrong. Either way, former M players succeeding in the NFL is good for Michigan. And a former M quarterback cementing himself as the greatest to ever step on the field is even better, that connection will be underscored time and time and time again even after he's done playing.
February 18th, 2021 at 11:48 AM ^
I was a long term Steelers fan having grown up there. They start the indoctrination early.
The whole Roethlisberger sexual predator thing turned me off to the Steelers. I believe in redemption, but what the Steelers should have done was sent him packing so he could find redemption some place else. I get the whole idea that a franchise qb is hard to find, but this was a complete about face from the Noll years.
Noll benched Gilliam, because Gilliam liked to party. Gilliam was the better qb. Bradshaw has said that. Gilliam didn't hurt anybody and got benched. Roethlisberger commits sexual assault and gets to stay.
I get a lot more done on Sundays now given I'm not glued to the TV watching pro football.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:29 AM ^
Brady was my QB while at Michigan. However, I have also been a lifelong Colts fan. I was a Patriot hater for his first 15 years or so (Belichick and Brady are both public enemies here), but I realized that I had all the reason to embrace Brady’s success and claim a legitimate connection with the greatest of all time. I started cheering for him over the last six years or so, and my enjoyment of the NFL has skyrocketed! Also, now that the patriots foolishly spurned him - it is even easier to cheer for him as a Colts fan. Perhaps you can your disdain towards the Pats and Belichick, who has never gotten it done in the NFL without Friday (edit Brady ?) Brady’s success should be embraced by Michigan fans - why the heck not?!
February 18th, 2021 at 9:36 AM ^
Belichick has never gotten it done in the NFL without Sundays, either.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:41 AM ^
I mean. I could go for some Fridays’ wings right now.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:34 AM ^
More weird is fans clinging to the Lions. Lions fandom: Oxymoron or paradox?
February 18th, 2021 at 10:58 AM ^
No one picks the Lions, the Lions pick you. I blame both my grandfathers. In their defense the Lions were good once upon a time.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:42 AM ^
I'm a Falcons fan *Hold for laughs* *Hold for 28-3 jokes* and yes, Brady has been the bane of many NFL teams' existences during his lengthy career. However, even if he did obliterate my favorite team's best chance at a Super Bowl win, maybe ever, I will still gladly admire his work and career as a QB in the NFL and claim that success as a Michigan football success. We as UM sports fans will always want the athletes who compete for this school to have major success in whatever they do next.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:46 AM ^
If you think it's weird that "this place clings to Tom Brady's success," why do you cling to him as a villain who "terrorized" your Colts?
After all, it's only a game. Paying special attention to one player is only different based on which team you root for, NOT because of the special attention itself.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:00 AM ^
I know I'm in the vast, vast, minority, but I have never attached myself to Brady. He was a decent M QB, no more, no less.
I think it gets way out of hand sometimes with people in this state.
I fully embrace he's the GOAT. There's no if, ands, or buts about it. But I didn't become a fan of the Patriots or the Bucs because of him like a lot of people did in Michigan.
I don't necessarily think its a Brady thing for me; when the players leave Michigan and go to their respective pro careers, I disconnect a little bit. I'm not going to root for a Michigan player if he goes up against one of my local teams.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:15 AM ^
He was far more than a "decent" QB here.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:21 AM ^
I suppose so- he did some good stuff.
Statistically- meh.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:18 AM ^
I have a lot to say about this which I won't bore anyone with but being from "this state" means we are Lions fans by birth. Not hard to rally behind a guy who not only went to Michigan, and is the GOAT, but also shouts out both the school and credits the trials and tribulations he endured while enrolled for playing a part in his current success versus getting whole heartedly behind a dysfunctional franchise that proves itself inept at every turn.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:14 AM ^
1. Michigan is not just a transactional pro team. We have affection for all of “our” players. We want them to do well in life. Michigan is a family. We cheer them on. We cheer Brady being the GOAT and Chad Henne forging a decent career as a backup and coming through with one courageous third-and-fourth-down conversion with the season on the line. We cheer Charles Woodson going to the hall of fame and Duncan Robinson getting signed by the Heat and David Moss somehow putting together a ten-year NHL career as a third-liner. And we cheer Nick Sheridan winning big games as a coach, even against us, and Tom Slade forging a successful dentistry practice.
I was enthusiastic when Brady got to start for the first time after Drew Bledsoe got hurt. Over the moon when he made the Super Bowl. Woke my dad, suffering from the cancer that would kill him and exhausted, in the middle of the night to tell him that *our guy Tom Brady* had miraculously become a Super Bowl MVP.
Why wouldn’t I pull for him? I pull for every man and woman that wears or wore maize and blue.
2. For a large number of us, Tom Brady was never an impediment to our NFL franchise achieving success, because we are Lions fans.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:19 AM ^
And I don't connect with the players like a lot of people here to, likely due to the fact that I never went to the school. I don't feel the "Michigan Man" stuff that most of you guys on here do. I went to a different university. And even though Michigan has always been my #1 rooting interest, it would be personally disingenuous to have this faux attachment to people that don't share something in common.
Of course, I want everyone who plays for Michigan to go on and do big things, but it's not my priority. I watch Michigan athletics for the entertainment and hopeful success.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:41 PM ^
"I went to a different university. And even though Michigan has always been my #1 rooting interest"
Asking out of genuine curiosity—given that you attended school elsewhere, why is Michigan your #1 rooting interest?
February 18th, 2021 at 3:20 PM ^
I went to CMU. They can only do so much nationally.
Also grew up with U of M fandom.
February 18th, 2021 at 2:26 PM ^
And I don't connect with the players like a lot of people here
I don't either.
But I cheer for anything U of M in the world doing well. Whether it's Tom Brady or solar cars or Darth Vader.
I've never met any of those people so just because I'm proud of their accomplishments from a U of M perspective doesn't mean I have any other kind of "connection" as you say with them.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:30 AM ^
This captures my sentiment exactly. I grew up in Ann Arbor, dreamed of attending UM, and was fortunate enough to do so twice. I root for all things Michigan, including alums after they depart, above all else. Always have and always will.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:17 AM ^
Because while I do like the camaraderie of having a favorite sports teams they are really just a bunch of guys paid millions to play for the team they play for. Tom Brady was at Michigan and chose Michigan just like we did. And his smile.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:27 AM ^
See above comment.
That's why it's different for me compared to a lot of people on this board. I didn't go to the school. That's probably why I don't feel connected to the guys that wear the jerseys.
February 18th, 2021 at 2:30 PM ^
I think it's at the very least, an assumption, or more likely a stretch of deceptive reasoning that because someone is rooting for their alma mater, that they have some kind of "connection" to that person.
It doesn't have to be an ipso facto thing -- which to me is how your posts are coming across.
I can be excited for TB because he's an alum but I still live my own life first and foremost.
February 19th, 2021 at 8:47 PM ^
What are you talking about? Maybe if Ryan Mallet were in this situation. Tom was a 4 year UM player. Jesus.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:24 AM ^
Did Valenti put his take on Brady as one of his worst 3??
He couldn't dog Brady enough. Every chance he got.
Brady is a winner.
February 18th, 2021 at 12:13 PM ^
I am getting the impression that this Valenti guy isn’t so good.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:28 AM ^
The vast majority of sports analysts are failures and do not like to see others succeed.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:28 AM ^
Meh. Who cares if an athlete is motivated by hot takes in a world in which hot takes has become a misnomer for “social media water cooler talk masked as expertise”?
Case in point, Brett Dick Pic and I May Retire Five Seasons In A Row If I Don’t Get My Way Favre was asked about Watson’s trade request and it became “news.”
But here’s a hot take: Tom Brady’s media team trolling water cooler talk is not awesome. He didn’t even do it himself—because I’m sure he’s not sitting at a computer and figuring out video editing tools and splicing things together. He has to order or approve and pay someone to “troll” for him.
He’s one of the great players and one of my favorite QBs when he was at UM, but my hot take is that his video is lame and so is hero worship of football players for what they do on the field when it is the offseason.
Instead of giving meat heads a good laugh and getting their computer butt slap of approval, why not actually do something with all your cultural cache, Tom? Open up a school for the disadvantaged kids or something. Or, at least, keep your personal motivation private instead of drawing it out ad nauseum. We get it.
You and Mark Dantonio are masters of the chip.
The self-centered acts wear thin while real shit is happening.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:51 AM ^
• "cache" (pronounced "cash") means a stash of something
• "cachet" (pronounced "cashay") means high regard or prestige
Using a fancy word incorrectly gives one little cachet.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:51 AM ^
So be more like Lebron James?
February 18th, 2021 at 9:58 AM ^
Lighten up, Francis. Sports are entertainment and supposed to be fun. A little trolling never hurt anybody. No need to take everything so seriously.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:38 AM ^
Are there any keen-eared Eminem fans here? If so, the track in the background of this TB12 video is the song that Eminem's character "Rabbit" freestyles over in the final rap battle of the movie 8 Mile. The song is Shook Ones Pt. II by Mobb Deep.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:40 AM ^
Sorta wish he would retire now so if by chance he doesn't win another Super Bowl next year (God forbid because he's made it look sooooooo easy) then all these same chodes and more will recycle these garbage takes to fill up airtime and get them clicks.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:44 AM ^
All that's missing is Tom double middle finger with his 7 rings on them right to that idiot blowhard Kellerman's face. With Tom just smirking and Max bumbling to come up with something snarky to say.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:48 AM ^
I like how one of the replies is “youre (sic) ring doesnt count”
February 18th, 2021 at 9:51 AM ^
The main reason I hate talk radio is the fact that they spend 90% of the time bashing people. In a culture that tries to preach to be nice to everyone and not to bully people, yet we got television programs owned by companies like Disney (who have long catered to the happiness of children) who dole out millions of dollars to their employees to bash people on television.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:53 AM ^
Don't forget those companies pay those millions because they earn many more millions, because lots of people listen.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:36 AM ^
It pains me to say this, even as a pretty far-left leaning dude.
If it bothers you that much, you can always change it.
It also depends on what you listen to. If we are strictly talking 97.1, there's really only one show that bases fanbases (Valenti). The rest of them are pretty darn neutral.
February 18th, 2021 at 9:53 AM ^
Slick video, but I'm baffled why TB even cares about random hot takes from the noise machines. He's got 7 rings, a supermodel wife, is universally acknowledged as the GOAT and sleeps on a giant pile of money. Let it go, man.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:07 AM ^
Some people use criticism as fuel to run on. It only increases his desire to prove them wrong - criticism never stops (that's just the way of the world), so he won't either.
February 18th, 2021 at 1:59 PM ^
I agree with MGoArchive, taking comments personally and making criticism personal is a strong motivational tool. Michael Jordan and Hunter Dickenson are know to make use of it. We tend to discourage it because it is easy to take too far and some turn it in to a grudge that they hold forever. Others see it as a tool that they can drop once the objective is accomplished.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:01 AM ^
It does not bother me, since I'm a Lions fan and they have been awful. I don't mind seeing Michigan grad NFL players on other teams knocking the shit out of the Lions or making a game winning score.
February 18th, 2021 at 10:06 AM ^
Good.