Les Miles

September 16th, 2019 at 11:48 AM ^

Who shouldn’t have been on the field and also how tf do you fuck up the field goal team? I was on my high school’s field goal team and we never had too many men on the field. If you get hurt you find someone to replace you and then tell them if you’re going back in. Idiocy. 

GOMBLOG

September 16th, 2019 at 12:13 PM ^

It was quick but they have a FG team and those same 11 guys practice during the week.  How do you not know who is on the FG team?  We do see players running on the field late in FG situations but you’d think the coach would have those guys ready to go in a situation like that.   

UMfan21

September 16th, 2019 at 12:52 PM ^

definitely poorly coached.  They had a first down, then spiked the ball with 11 seconds left.  So it was only 2nd and 10.  Dantonio and company sat on their thumbs trying to decide whether to crank off one more play or just kick it.  That indecision caused the special teams to be rushed.

Hail-Storm

September 16th, 2019 at 1:35 PM ^

Didn't play football, but it seems like you would notice someone next to you who usually isn't, or you are not in your assigned spot. 

My only similar experience is when I'm in the big house and I am a seat over or only halfway on my seat.  My immediate assumption is there are too many people in the section.  Seems like a similar thing for a line on a field goal unit.

Baldbill

September 16th, 2019 at 11:51 AM ^

To be honest, the following play that they missed the field goal on, should have had a penalty on ASU and it would have come with an automatic 1st down. Pac-12 officials have already announced that they were wrong to not call it.

bronxblue

September 16th, 2019 at 12:18 PM ^

Sure.  MSU also could have lined up properly the play before, or the Pac 12 officials respond back about the absolute phantom PI call earlier in the drive.  

The narrative (not by you, but generally) that MSU was screwed out of a win here by a bad call drives me insane.  They someone picked up 400 yards of offense and still missed 3 FGs and failed to convert a number of opportunities.  And, this was just to go to overtime; there's no given that MSU was going to win in OT either.  

StephenRKass

September 16th, 2019 at 11:57 AM ^

Mistakes happen to every team (in terms of penalties.) Methinks there is a bit too much schadenfreude here at MSU's misfortune. I mean, I want to beat MSU and OSU and ND and the rest of the games as much as anyone. But I don't obsess over how our rivals are doing.

Mike Damone

September 16th, 2019 at 12:15 PM ^

Its not the 12 guys on the field that makes it stupid - on its own, that is just a normal football mistake.

It was Mork's panic that was so damn stupid - "Should we throw it in the endzone?  Should we kick it now?  Why didn't I hire some new coaches in the spring?  Who made us wear those ugly uniforms last week?  Things are just moving too damn fast!!!"

He had 2nd down and the clock stopped - all he had to do was tell Lewerke to spike it again, take a chill pill, and then make the right decision with his coaches and team.  Instead - he did one of stupidest things I have seen in football, and tried to rush out the field goal unit with 10-15 seconds left on the clock.  And in the process - didn't give the holder time to count the players.  A complete choke job caused by unnecessary panic.

Mork will have the most wins ever for a head football coach at MSU - perhaps right before he is run out of town at the end of the season.  He said it best - "Pride cometh before the fall".  You know what - Fuck Mork and Screw Sparty.

Go Blue!

HelloHeisman91

September 16th, 2019 at 1:56 PM ^

I’m guessing that one of the lineman got dinged up and missed a fg attempt earlier in the game.  So his back-up was on the field for an attempt.  That lineman gets taped up or hydrated or whatever, doesn’t communicate to his back-up that he’s good to go and then chaos.  Either that or a few guys got banged up, the protections up front and assignments changed throughout the game and ultimately ended with terrible communication and chaos. 

Blue-Ray

September 16th, 2019 at 12:27 PM ^

How did the players other than the obvious decide where to line up to get set, then not think something was wrong. 

Usually there's a guy hustling to get off the field when there's 12, because they can't get lined up and notice it. Not Sparty though...Sparty chose to Sparty No.

You Only Live Twice

September 16th, 2019 at 12:35 PM ^

Didn't Dantonio basically try to do what Hoke did years ago (except Hoke did it successfully) namely, rush the FG guys out there?  What game was that... the famed Dileo slide?

Drew Henson's Backup

September 16th, 2019 at 12:52 PM ^

Only sort of, but not really the same. Hoke immediately made the call for the FG unit to go out so there was no hesitation or confusion. Dantonio burned time thinking about it and caused confusion.

Hoke had the advantage (?) of having less time so it was an easier call. Nevertheless, having everyone ready to go in advance like that was actually very good coaching.