August 21st, 2019 at 8:55 AM ^
Please tell me this isn't real...
August 21st, 2019 at 11:27 AM ^
I'm genuinely surprised to hear that cereal is still a thing. When I was a kid growing up, Meijer had a whole aisle dedicated to this stuff, and people were feeding it to their kids to start the day.
I don't know if that's still a reality, but the fact that this is a new sponsor for a bowl game in 2019 isn't too reassuring.
August 21st, 2019 at 12:36 PM ^
I got to know. Live in another country? A bunker? Agoraphobic? I mean I order groceries by delivery and pick up, but I’ve managed to step into a grocery store a few times in the last decade to know that cereal still exists.
August 21st, 2019 at 12:42 PM ^
Just stunning to me. People need to eat actual food. It's amazing how uneducated people are about diet.
To answer your questions, yes I have spent substantial time over the last decade living in different countries. I also have lived exclusively in the centers of large cities during that same period. My shopping consists of walking into a local market and picking up the fruits, veggies, and nuts I need for the week. I thankfully do not spend any time in these massive American grocery stores.
August 21st, 2019 at 12:54 PM ^
If all you're eating is fruits, veggies, and nuts, you have no business lecturing others on their diets.
August 21st, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^
Haha I would love to hear some wisdom on this. Please tell me what I'm missing in a whole-food vegan diet. Tell me what packaged, processed bullshit my body needs that I fail to provide.
August 21st, 2019 at 2:20 PM ^
“Whole food vegan” is not how our bodies are designed to function in its optimal state.
millennia of natural selection created the Homo sapiens species to where we have, ingrained in our genome, genes that code for enzymes whose sole purpose is digest animal meat.** We’re supposed to eat it. It’s good for us, like everything, in variety and moderation.
**if you’re a creationist, God wants us to eat animal meat cuz he gave us enzymes that digest meat.
August 21st, 2019 at 2:28 PM ^
My body functions just fine and supports my 80-mile/week running habit just fine. I also loved and miss meat in my diet, but I have made choices for ethical and environmental reasons that I am perfectly happy with.
To your hilarious footnote: No, no one designed me for any particular purpose. To quote Stephen Hawking, I am nothing more than "chemical scum on a moderate-sized planet, orbiting around a very average star in the outer suburb of one among a hundred billion galaxies."
August 21st, 2019 at 2:40 PM ^
I’m sure your diet is just fine. So is eating some Cocoa Puffs. Just pointing out that as a Homo sapiens, vegan is about as unnatural as packaged processed foods.
August 21st, 2019 at 3:41 PM ^
I'm going to need a citation for this claim, and I think you're going to have a really hard time finding one.
August 21st, 2019 at 4:47 PM ^
If you don’t know, Nature is one of the most respected scientific journals in the world. I’m not buying the article for you to read but .... abstract here. It’s one of many studies that show the importance of meat in our evolution. Many others are cited in the abstract.
https://www.nature.com/articles/nature16990
Basically, without eating meat Homo sapiens would have never evolved as they did and meat and diet was critical to our evolution
August 21st, 2019 at 4:57 PM ^
Oh my.
First: "Without eating meat Homo sapiens would have never evolved as they did and meat and diet was critical to our evolution," was not the claim I asked for a citation on. I don't doubt that eating meat heavily influenced the evolution of our species.
Second: Did you link the wrong article? It doesn't say what you think it says.
Third: Your claim was "vegan is about as unnatural as packaged processed foods."
Once you find me the article that explains how Cocoa Puffs are just as natural as fruits, veggies, and nuts, we can start having an honest conversation. Again, I think you're going to have a really hard time finding a source on this.
You certainly will find plenty of articles that detail how whole foods have also been part of our evolutionary development. You'll also probably have no trouble finding sources that tell you that the prevalence of processed and packaged foods is a major contributor to the overwhelmingly unhealthy and obese society we presently live in.
As I noted above, it's amazing how uneducated people are about diet.
August 22nd, 2019 at 7:11 AM ^
I remember when people were on a vegan craze a few years ago, and many of those people are now back on normal eating habits.
Veganism is not for everybody. It can be extremely unhealthy, even if done “right” (whatever that means). To be honest, our consumption of sugar is far more detrimental to our health than meat, and in the case of meat it’s more about how the meat is prepared than whether or not it’s actually eaten.
and as for the “ethics,” I quote Mr. Spock: We all prey on death, even vegetarians.
August 21st, 2019 at 8:11 PM ^
If you're not eating meat or dairy products, there's basically no way to get enough protein in your diet to be competitive athletically. When trying to gain muscle, you actively need to eat more than you feel like you need which is really hard to do when you're eating tofu shish kebabs. If veganism was truly a superior diet, vegans would dominate the upper echelon of professional athletics. It's not though because humans evolved to eat meat.
At the end of the day, you're a vegan because you're a pussy who thinks it morally wrong to kill animals, not because you think it's the most healthy diet. Claiming it's healthier than eating meat is a post-hoc rationalization to try and deceive others into adopting behaviors that align with your moral code.
August 21st, 2019 at 10:14 PM ^
I, uh... Whew...
I sincerely hope, for you, that one day you reach a point where, if you were to look back on this post, you would appreciate how much you've grown.
And, by the way, the claims in your first paragraph are simply wrong, including your primary thesis, which is easily debunked by the fact that there ARE world-class athletes on vegan diets. From personal experience, I can tell you my diet hasn't kept my aging vegan ass off the podium at both half and full marathons. You should fact-check whoever is feeding you this nonsense.
August 21st, 2019 at 2:19 PM ^
It’s easy to buy actual food at one. I, too, am a vegan, and maintain such a diet with ease at a standard American grocery store. It is an issue, however, in lower income areas where people have only discount chains available to them. But I agree people need better education on diet.
August 21st, 2019 at 2:23 PM ^
I agree that the food I buy can be purchased in these massive grocery stores. In fact, if those kinds of stores were available to me, my weekly grocery bill would probably only be about $20, which would be great. I just don't live in a place where I access places with parking lots, which is how I like it.
August 21st, 2019 at 3:35 PM ^
You order your food then go pick it up? Wow... are you that lazy? LMAO
August 21st, 2019 at 5:58 PM ^
It’s awesome. I add anything I want to buy in an app on my phone, and then pick a convenient time to pick it up, usually when I’m on my way home. Easily saves me an hour or more every week, or over a whole 40-hour work week a year worth of time, time that I can use to do literally anything else. Your assumption was astute, as some of this time is spent lazily watching football on Saturdays, at least in the fall anyway.
August 21st, 2019 at 8:58 AM ^
Tony the Coked out Voyeur Sun Bowl
August 21st, 2019 at 10:29 AM ^
username...
August 21st, 2019 at 2:47 PM ^
Mr. Crunch, you deserve your own bowl too. I'd vote for the Bahammas bowl.
August 21st, 2019 at 4:09 PM ^
It still amazes me that the Bahamas Bowl is sponsored by an industrial park and the village of Elk Grove, Illinois for the tidy sum of about $300,000.
August 21st, 2019 at 8:58 AM ^
Back in my self medication days , I would scarf an entire box of frosted flakes at one sitting.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:00 AM ^
I'm thinking the Clemson Tigers should be forced to play in this bowl every year regardless of ranking.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:02 AM ^
'Tis the ACC v PAC12, so your wish could come true.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:01 AM ^
Oh, that's awful.
The Sun Bowl is absolutely my favorite meaningless bowl game to watch. Always during the afternoon on New Year's Eve, in that spectacular old stadium in El Paso with the East sideline stands that are carved out of the side of a mountain.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:11 AM ^
Same here. Often sunny, underrated atmosphere. Definitely second-/third-tier for a bowl, but there's nothing else like it in bowl season.
August 21st, 2019 at 10:23 AM ^
One of the better stadiums in sports - I saw a game there in November 2017.
UTEP was beyond terrible (0-12 and by far the worst team in FBS in 2017) and a mediocre Louisiana Tech team beat them with ease. But still a great backdrop for football on a sunny late autumn day.
August 21st, 2019 at 3:21 PM ^
I like to hear some love for it. I always felt it didn’t garner enough respect for being the second-oldest bowl game and in a interesting stadium to boot. Now that I live in EP, I’m more partial to it. It’s a happy thought to know two power five teams will be playing a few miles away come late December.
August 21st, 2019 at 7:53 PM ^
I've thoroughly enjoyed visits to El Paso. The city (even before the tragic events of this month) does get a bit of a bad rap. It's pretty, it's safe, the folk are friendly and there's entertaining stuff both inside and outside to do.
It is isolated, of course. That's a LONG drive to Dallas or San Antonio.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:02 AM ^
Hell yes. I need an awful graphic of Tony the Tiger stepping into the Sun Bowl, like the one MTSU released for our game.
August 21st, 2019 at 12:53 PM ^
Link for awful MTSU graphic?
August 21st, 2019 at 9:02 AM ^
True story - Tony the Tiger on Twitter was getting inundated with NSFW posts from furries, and had to ask people to knock it off for the sake of the kids. Just another reason why Twitter is an awful place for anybody.
Also, I give this bowl name 2 years, tops.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:11 AM ^
Can confirm, I work for Kellogg's and had to deal with this.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:03 AM ^
Frosted Flakes instead of confetti?!? Yes please
August 21st, 2019 at 9:07 AM ^
So dumb....
on a lighter note, i now know that the original Tony the Tiger voice we were familiar with growing up was voiced by Thurl Ravenscroft who amongst other contributions was the uncredited singer of "You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch" from the old How the Grinch Stole Christmas.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:38 AM ^
useful information, thanks.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:58 AM ^
Definitely thought that was Michigan's own James Earl Jones.
August 21st, 2019 at 10:39 AM ^
I always thought is was Boris Karloff that sang the song. Nope, Boris just narrated the story (and couldn't actually sing). Since, Thurl was not credited, everyone thought it was Boris singing.
August 21st, 2019 at 10:46 AM ^
I'm not sure there's a lighter note than a cereal mascot being put in the name of a lower tier college football bowl game.
But Thurl Ravenscroft is just an awesome name and I'm mad I didn't hear it before now.
August 21st, 2019 at 1:25 PM ^
Sometimes a bowl of Frosted Flakes after a rough night is just enough to make you not Thurl
August 21st, 2019 at 2:25 PM ^
Race to name your next kid Thurl Ravenscroft __LastName__ ...ready, go!
August 21st, 2019 at 9:11 AM ^
Frosted Flakes are awesome. Don't be a hater.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:52 AM ^
I don't know about awesome, but they're definitely great.
August 21st, 2019 at 2:26 PM ^
Cereal (whole milk only!) is great.
Captain Crunch, Frosted Flakes, Apple Jacks, Trix, Cocoa Puffs, Fruity Pebbles, Boo Berry, Honeycomb, Lucky Charms, Count Chocula, Fruit Loops, Grape Nuts ......
shit, time to head to Meijer
August 21st, 2019 at 9:13 AM ^
The whole bowl system becomes more and more a joke and more of a toy for Marketing departments all the time.
ESPN actually owns about half of the bowls now, and that makes up just about all of the shitty ones. Not just broadcasting, they actually own and operate them.
Imagine the marketing conferences where ESPN people boast about their ability to manipulate a sizable sliver of the masses to watch putrid matchups on December Wednesdays. The Kellogg people in attendance get jealous and come up with the Tony the Tiger Bowl. The inanity seems to pass through the room unnoticed.
August 21st, 2019 at 9:13 AM ^
all about the CTC and Fruity Pebbles, sorry Tony