Sign stealing has now hit college hoops
Looks like Kst is accusing Iowa St of stealing their signs. Kst alleges ISU had people sitting behind their bench texting info to coaches.
Had no clue about this until just now as Chris Childers was talking about it on his radio show on SiriusXM 84.
Surprised this has not gotten more attention given what happened at UM. Ridiculous nonetheless.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:32 PM ^
So that explains why Michigan basketball is losing so many games!!!
January 29th, 2024 at 12:37 PM ^
The greatest scandal to ever hit college basketball! Burn it all down!
January 29th, 2024 at 1:03 PM ^
Missouri is so screwed...
Seriously, though, this is a much more blatant and immediately impactful (read: worse) issue than what Stalions is purported to have done.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:37 PM ^
Juwan should tweet: “Ryan Day should be suspended for 3 games immediately. This is a matter of player safety.”
January 29th, 2024 at 12:51 PM ^
I'd give him a two year extension if Juwan did that.
January 29th, 2024 at 1:53 PM ^
whoa whoa whoa let's not say things we can't take back now
January 29th, 2024 at 12:35 PM ^
Did K State hire a PI firm to investigate Iowa State? Did someone at Iowa State build a vast network of third parties to text the info along? Is there a vacuum clearing business involved somehow?
January 29th, 2024 at 12:36 PM ^
I also only just saw this last night, then realized the story broke on Thursday.
I am also really surprised it isn't getting more attention, but I guess no one cares about Iowa State and Kansas State. And also it's not coming from the NCAA or the Big 12, and there are no private investigators involved.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:44 PM ^
I am also really surprised it isn't getting more attention
Regular season college basketball. I'm not surprised this is under the radar.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:36 PM ^
It only matters if it's Michigan.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:45 PM ^
Not anymore… with Harbaugh gone. 🤷♂️
January 29th, 2024 at 12:36 PM ^
So, Connor has moved to Iowa?
January 29th, 2024 at 12:37 PM ^
I honestly didn't even know that basketball had signs.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:44 PM ^
They don't hold up pictures of Woody Woodpecker, but they do call plays. Teams run sets. I know it's hard to tell watching Michigan, but it's easier to see if you go back to a Beilein game. Or a Purdue game.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:55 PM ^
Are you telling me there’s no sign and set for “throw the ball out of bounds” or “take bad shot that you can get anytime and do it within the first half of the shot clock?” Hard to believe.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:56 PM ^
Yes of course they run sets and plays, but I just haven't noticed the "signs" for those before. If they are coming off the bench or off a time-out then there wouldn't be a "sign". Skeptical that "stealing signs" in basketball is any real competitive advantage. But I feel that way about football too, so I'm probably biased.
January 29th, 2024 at 1:08 PM ^
They get calls from the bench while on the court. They can call plays out or use hand signals.
But KSU was complaining that ISU had people standing next to their huddles and then texting the intel back to ISU.
January 29th, 2024 at 2:38 PM ^
WIN THE GAME is the only basketball sign I can remember.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:45 PM ^
The Big 12 commissioner should step in right away before any investigation is complete and suspend the ISU head coach. Of course that won't happen because that would be beyond ridiculous.
Nobody in the media will mention it, but this should put into perspective just how obnoxious the whole situation with Michigan was. This is why it was Michigan v. Everybody. The things that were said and done to this program were so unprecedented and so out of line it is laughable.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:50 PM ^
Agreed.
Also, I was thinking recently that if there was any validity to the sign stealing crap there is no way Jim gets an NFL job. Do people really believe an NFL franchise would hire a coach that benefited from on field cheating? I guess someone could bring up the patriot’s but it’s not the same.
January 29th, 2024 at 1:01 PM ^
Agreed, its pretty incredible that as time passes we get more evidence suggesting this whole thing was an absolute joke. Mike MacDonald is going to get an NFL head coaching job either this year or the next. So, what changed in 2021? Was it Conner Stallions or was it the fact that we had a future NFL head coach calling our defense followed by another guy that will likely be an NFL head coach in the near future?
January 29th, 2024 at 4:39 PM ^
Shouldn’t they first have a conference call with all the league coaches so they can express their outrage and then do the suspension, of course to be followed by a complete investigation of the facts.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:51 PM ^
Oh no! The humanity!
January 29th, 2024 at 12:52 PM ^
Unsafe! Unsafe!
Thank of the children!
January 29th, 2024 at 12:54 PM ^
Barstool source, huh?
January 29th, 2024 at 1:00 PM ^
Lol this board's weird thing against Barstool is old.
Its not the best, but I have seen way more questionable sources regularly used here over the years.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:58 PM ^
K-State coaches were clearly irritated when they began to worry that they were being spied upon. Chris Williams, who covers Iowa State for the web site Cyclone Fanatic, reported that during one late timeout Tang’s staff took a look at ISU’s managers and referred to them as “cheating (expletives).” The ESPN cameras also caught Tang appearing to tell lead official Gerry Pollard during the game’s penultimate media timeout that Iowa State had people “filming our huddle.” His concerns didn’t amount to anything, though. The game continued and the Cyclones pulled away for a double-digit win.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:58 PM ^
Death Penalty!!!
January 29th, 2024 at 12:59 PM ^
We heard it before......nothing new.
January 29th, 2024 at 12:59 PM ^
Iowa state is going to win the national championship now.
January 29th, 2024 at 1:13 PM ^
It's ok if in person during games and not advanced. Only a very narrow window of behavior violates competitive fairness in the NCAA. It fluctuates but stays narrow.
January 29th, 2024 at 1:17 PM ^
Surprised this has not gotten more attention given what happened at UM.
Probably because no one really cares about Iowa State and Iowa State doesn't have an archrival who is undergoing an existential crisis because they're better than said rival at basketball
January 29th, 2024 at 1:19 PM ^
Jerome Tang seems like an odd choice to be rattling the "Fair Play!" saber.
January 29th, 2024 at 1:56 PM ^
Won't get more attention because it's KSU and ISU. Signgate was only a big deal because it was Harbaugh and Michigan.
January 29th, 2024 at 2:26 PM ^
The reply of the entire city of Ann Arbor:
January 29th, 2024 at 2:52 PM ^
Back in the day, my favorite play was #1
Dribble, Dribble
Step back
Shoot
Win
Get on the bus
Go home
January 29th, 2024 at 3:28 PM ^
It's happening at other Big 12 basketball schools too. I was watching the TCU-Baylor game this weekend & noticed these young guys in Baylor gear sitting behind the TCU bench during a timeout when the TV cameras zoomed in. And the Baylor guys were intently focused on the players/staff until the camera cut away. Pay attention next time you're watching Big 12 games.