SIAP: Fauci says football "may not happen" this year
Title says it all. Just reporting the news without commentary. Link to CNN below. I tried to find links from OAN, The Daily Stormer, The Communist Daily, Dictator Times, and Anarchy News, to be fair and balanced, but couldn't.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/18/us/football-happen-fauci-spt-trnd/index.html
This is why Trump sent him to Bolivia. He keeps coming with the bad news.
Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, tells CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta, "Unless players are essentially in a bubble -- insulated from the community and they are tested nearly every day -- it would be very hard to see how football is able to be played this fall. If there is a second wave, which is certainly a possibility and which would be complicated by the predictable flu season, football may not happen this year."
I think this is the plan for players, so their is room for optimism.
you expect a bunch of 18-22 yr olds to insulate themselves from the community?? right...
But they will if they don't play football?
Well the article is about Pro football, not college, so yeah, I do. I expect them to treat the NFL like they intend to treat the NBA.
I can never find the picture of him scratching his nose through his mask, I think Google scrubbed it from existence.
CNN...
Widely known as a fake news organization.
This is a real question: does "fake news" mean that you doubt that Fauci said those words, that CNN simply made it up?
Not necessarily, but CNN (and other media sources on both sides) does have a history of leaving out important context that can have a discernible difference in how the reader or listener consumes the information. Now you could make an argument that they only have enough time and space and cannot possibly provide all relevant information related to complex issues. You could also make an argument that omission of important information to generate more interest and clicks is a form of lying. If someone doesn’t believe that both of those concerns are real and do occur then that person would be extremely naive. My wife is a television news anchor and we’ve had multiple discussions about this.
No, I don't doubt that Fauci said that to the CNN reporter and the print article is objective by going on to discuss what the NFL is doing and how things could play out. If you go watch the CNN on air discussion around what Fauci said, they say the statement is a MAJOR alarm and say nothing about the NFL or football instead transiting to which states are doing things "right" like Washington, and which states are doing things wrong like Arizona and Florida. What's fake is the dramatization in addition to CNNs long history of being caught reporting fake information.
I guess that's the big difference: whether one listens to the personalities on TV/radio/Op-Eds and their opinions. I don't think that is "news" at all, no matter what network or newspaper you're talking about. So I suppose the term "fake news" sort of applies, in the sense that opinion is not news.
Thanks for answering!
Not taking a side here, but the irony of "Fake News" and "Alaskan Yeti" is hilarious!
Thanks! I'll take any laugh I can get around here.
Faucet also said in January Covid posed no threat and masks don’t help. So he has a history of being wrong.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/4787209002
Did you actually read the link you posted? That's not exactly what he said in this article
If that testing shows the virus has slipped into the country in places federal officials don't know about, "we've got a problem," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told USA TODAY's Editorial Board Monday. Short of that, Fauci says skip the masks unless you are contagious, don't worry about catching anything from Chinese products and certainly don't avoid Chinese people or restaurants.
•Masks. The only people who need masks are those who are already infected to keep from exposing others. The masks sold at drugstores aren't even good enough to truly protect anyone, Fauci said. "If you look at the masks that you buy in a drug store, the leakage around that doesn't really do much to protect you," he said. "People start saying, 'Should I start wearing a mask?' Now, in the United States, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to wear a mask." Fauci also doesn't want people to worry, but many are. Nancy Lamascus-Smith of Portland, Oregon, got an Amazon package delivered from China this month. "I jokingly asked my sister if I should be concerned," Lamascus-Smith said. "Her reply was to wash my hands and stay away from her!" Ashley Nicole Pate, who lives near Huntsville, Alabama, also became worried when she received an Amazon package from China. Her concerns increased when she became sick a week later, so she went to the doctor to get tested for the flu. The test was negative and she was sent home with antibiotics for bronchitis. Fauci doesn't want people to worry about coronavirus, the danger of which is "just minuscule." But he does want them to take precautions against the "influenza outbreak, which is having its second wave." "We have more kids dying of flu this year at this time than in the last decade or more," he said. "At the same time people are worrying about going to a Chinese restaurant. The threat is (we have) a pretty bad influenza season, particularly dangerous for our children."
I pasted the wrong link. I was being a little flippant, as he did equivocate a bit more. Better link below.
i do kind of despise how liberals have decided to lionize this dude. Yesterday in Kerrytown I saw an old boomer couple wearing matching “In Fauci We Trust” shirts.
The lionization is weird, but I think at least some of it is a defensive reaction to unhinged loons attacking him and shrieking about him being in cahoots with Bill Gates and George Soros to use the virus to implement a new world order, or whatever other dumb conspiracy pops up on a given day.
When your choices are one of the most distinguished medical professionals in our country vs an imbecile, I can see why people would want to lionize him. It doesn’t make him infallible or particularly good at public policy, but, again, in comparison to the alternative...
Indeed. There aren't many people who can make Joe Biden look like a paragon of virtue and an intellectual heavyweight.
So sad. Yet so true.
you spelled "pedophile" wrong
Medical professionals learn more each day about cancer, and it's been around for how long, but you can't expect them to change their views of a virus that's been around less than a year?
Haven't been on here in a while. The commentary is still at YouTube levels. Check back in a few months kids.
He has a history of using the best information available at the time. That's not actually a knock on him.
Yeah, if we're going to start dinging people for learning about a novel virus and updating their statements as new information emerges, then I don't know who the hell should be listened to about, really, anything.
Yeah god forbid people allow new information and evidence to inform their decisions and admit when they were wrong
The mental gymnastics people want to go through on masks is just comical. The idea that masks might protect against a respiratory illness wasn't some revolutionary discovery, people knew this. They were used during the first SARS outbreak.
The issue was that we didn't have many masks in this country (nor did many other countries outside of East Asia). Fauci repeated the lie that masks did nothing to protect our limited supplies from hoarding and make sure medical professionals got them. That's all it was. I don't know why people want to rationalize that so much.
He literally said as much in a recent interview
“He also acknowledged that masks were initially not recommended to the general public so that first responders wouldn’t feel the strain of a shortage of PPE.
He explained that public health experts "were concerned the public health community, and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply.”
Is his point that he was lying to us for the greater good?
he didn't lie.
with the limited amount of masks to go around, he prioritized healthcare workers and people most susceptible to the virus.
That's not what he said....he did not tell people that supplies were short and we should prioritize healthcare workers, first responders, and at risk populations. People wouldn't have listened, and would have hoarded masks. Instead he lied "for the greater good."
Poor Rob F
To enhance his moderator skills, I propose Rob F to receive scenario training
Fauci, while well respected and highly educated, is turning out to look like your local news weatherman every time he predicts something.
The guy predicted hundreds of thousands of people would die from this virus if its spread wasn't stopped. It took 120 days for 115,000 Americans to die on the first wave of this virus with months long shutdowns, social distancing and 40 million jobs lost. I'm not sure I'd say he's been wrong.
I know it's become cool to criticize scientists in this country. People who believe in facts and try to adapt to predict what's to come. Don't be like that.
But... Am I wrong?
Lazy take is lazy.
Yes, you are. He's predicted some pretty awful and dire things, and they've happened.
Yep, same as Jim Cantore when predicting devastating hurricanes and or tornados. Not gonna argue that.
Local weathermen are insanely accurate these days. And he was dealing with something much more difficult to predict than a rain storm.
After what the virus did in Wuhan, Iran and Lombardy it actually wasn't hard to predict what was to come.
I respect the guy for his long service (under six U.S. presidents) but he's basically just parroted the WHO the whole time.
True , but at the same time, a lot of the data coming out of those places - especially China- was not reliable. The scientists on the ground were constantly learning about a tricky and devious virus that had never been seen before. And he based his judgments off the best data he had. I still believe he was acting in the best interest of the country and for the most part got it right.
To his (slight) defense, he was undoubtedly under pressure to downplay certain aspects of the virus because the administration had no working plan on how to address it and, depending on who you listened to, was downright ignorant of it's possible effects.
The guy predicted hundreds of thousands of people would die from this virus if its spread wasn't stopped.
He didn't start saying this until March when a lot of people in Italy were dying. From a February 17 USA Today article :
Fauci doesn't want people to worry about coronavirus, the danger of which is "just minuscule." But he does want them to take precautions against the "influenza outbreak, which is having its second wave."
By that point the virus was sweeping through Iran and Wuhan had been locked down for a month.
To be clear, most people (and governments) in Western countries weren't taking the virus seriously at that time. But to portray him as a voice in the wilderness being ignored for a long time, that really isn't true. He swung and missed like a lot of people.
He's using the best information he has at the time. As the virus evolves, as well as our understanding of how it works, of course there are going to be things that were incorrect in hindsight. Everyone on this planet is figuring this virus out as they go.
So yes, to a degree he's like a weatherman, but what are you realistically expecting? I'll take his scientific advice over a politician's every day of the week. When it comes to COVID, I'd rather be told what I need to hear as opposed to what I want to hear.
Science adjusts its views based on what’s observed. Media (and people arguing on the interwebs) denies observations so their agenda can be preserved.
Prime example of why we can’t have respectful conversations around here.
How is this not respectful? In fact, the amount of ad hominem attacks and invectives have substantially decreased in these political threads over the past couple months. Way less ugly that April.
so screw you!
Well, Fauci is right in that CFB "may not happen," but it's also true that it might happen.
For better or worse, Fauci has no control over the NCAA or its member educational institutions who will be making the final decisions.
"May not happen" is in no way definitive. It is significant only in the sense that it "plants seeds" of doubt and shows that no matter how confident the NCAA/NFL are in marching ahead, others are less sure how this works.