Rose Bowl Committee seriously eyeing Penn St and not Ohio St regardless of anything....

Submitted by Ezekiels Creatures on November 30th, 2022 at 8:55 PM

 

https://twitter.com/nicoleauerbach/status/1598076668295290880

 

......the Rose Bowl is strongly considering taking No. 8 Penn St (10-2) instead of the Buckeyes to avoid a repeat appearance coming off another deflating loss to their rival Michigan........

https://theathletic.com/3953770/2022/11/30/rose-bowl-cfp-penn-state-ohio-state/

 

 

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November 30th, 2022 at 9:18 PM ^

I don't blame them.  You know Clifford will show up and ball all out until he's concussed.  Stroud won't even play and wouldn't even run the ball in the most important game of his life.  Guy isn't a baller, isn't a leader.  He's great when things are easy.  But he quickly becomes Charlie Brown when things aren't.  

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HChiti76

December 1st, 2022 at 2:57 AM ^

RATS!! I rarely downvote but I had to after your mischaracterization of the iconic comic book character, Charlie Brown. (Charles to Marcie, Chuck to Peppermint Patty!)

Charlie Brown never mailed it in or underperformed. He was the most passionate sportsman ever! He gave 100% on every play and played at his highest talent level.

Stroud “quickly becomes Charlie Brown when things” aren’t easy? Are you kidding me? CB was the antithesis of that attitude  Things were NEVER EASY for CB, but he kept trying again and again.

The problem was that he, and his team, were 
woefully incompetent and bereft of any athletic ability. He wanted to score that run, but he was out by a mile at home plate. He wanted to strike out the batter but instead, gave up a line drive up the middle hit so hard that it tore off all his clothes! He wanted with all of his heart and soul to kick that football but we all know what happened. Hell, he even stayed on the mound when it was pouring rain because he wanted to keep on playing, even after everyone had left. 

Stroud doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as Charlie Brown. Leave my comic legends alone!!

That was fun!! And, obviously, somewhat tongue in cheek  I’m writing this while rewatching the second half of last year's M OSU football game! GO BLUE!!

 

 

 

 

 


 

 

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kdhoffma

November 30th, 2022 at 11:10 PM ^

Ugh, I'm all for OSU getting passed over for the Rose Bowl... but did anyone catch the UW/WSU game last weekend?  Both teams were just throwing bombs all over each other.  DB's on both side were doing their best impression of OSU DB's from earlier in the day.

Seeing Penix Jr. light up the OSU secondary in the Rose Bowl could be fun.

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Hail2Victors

November 30th, 2022 at 9:01 PM ^

It’s probably a good idea.  Stroud won’t be playing and I wonder if some other draft eligible types will. Also don’t see fans traveling for it.  I live in Columbus metro and a lot of folks ain’t happy right now

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umfan83

December 1st, 2022 at 1:58 AM ^

Last year they only sold 13k of their 20k ticket allotment. I imagine fan enthusiasm isn’t great after a second beat down by Michigan sending them out of the CFP. Both possibilities for opponent, Utah and Washington would be rematches from 2019 and 2022.  Penn state hasn’t been since 2016, they’d probably be jacked up to go. Ohio State would probably be ok with going to the Orange Bowl and playing Clemson. 

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stephenrjking

November 30th, 2022 at 9:19 PM ^

Gonna be honest:

I’m not sure Stroud gets a great draft grade and if so there’s a chance, small though it may be, that he comes back next year.

He’s not good under any kind of pressure. He doesn’t respond well when things don’t go according to plan. He has had the luxury of throwing to four receivers that are top NFL draft picks.

One play jumped out to me. It was on a second-quarter drive, I think the one that ended with the 4th down incomplete to the TE. Early in the drive OSU completed a pass for perhaps 10-15 yards to the left in a nifty zone beater route combo to the left. Stroud made the play, fine.

But I happened to notice that on the opposite side of the field, top of the screen, Marvin Harrison Jr made a nice move and accelerated at full throttle. The backside deep safety was not watching Harrison, but Stroud, and did not react until Harrison was even with him with a CB trailing distantly in his wake. The best receiver in the country was screaming down the sideline wide open with a full five yards of separation.

My first reaction was sort of latent fear: oh boy, we came that close to getting torched. All Stroud has to do is look to the right and he’ll see it and it’s a TD that puts us down 14 in the second quarter.

But my second reaction was this: why wasn’t the safety even paying attention to Harrison, the guy he’s supposed to bracket?

My conclusion: because he was reading Stroud’s eyes, and once Stroud looked left, he was never going to look right. He wasn’t focused on Harrison because they’ve scouted Stroud and don’t think he can look off defenders. It didn’t matter how open Harrison was; he was never getting the ball.

And that makes sense to me. I confess not watching every OSU passing play, but how often does Stroud efficiently progress through reads and quickly find the third or fourth option? What we usually see is him nervously dancing around in the pocket, looking for a guy that he can get it to because his receiver is physically superior to whomever is defending him. He is hesitant when things go wrong. He can’t handle pressure. He’s not good at progression.

Throws a beautiful pass, yes. But that doesn’t sound like a guy that I want to build a franchise around.

I’m really interested to see what his draft chatter looks like. 

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M-Dog

December 1st, 2022 at 12:36 AM ^

He will still leave as a second rounder.  He was always just a mercenary for Ohio State, killing time until he could go to the NFL.  He's not a guy that is going to hang around the program 20 years later like you see so often at Michigan. 

He wants out.  His press conference about his performance in his career at Ohio State was all spoken in the past tense.

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trueblueintexas

November 30th, 2022 at 11:47 PM ^

Part of that is Stroud, part of that is OSU’s offense. I remember Urban talking about how the passing game is structured. It doesn’t require the QB to go through a typical progression. It’s basically, if X do Y, if A do B. The goal is to simplify the QB’s thinking to operate faster and reduce errors. 
For the most part, it works in college, and that is the coaches goal. The stats speak for themselves. It’s not great for QB development and that has been proven by the NFL performance of Florida’s and OSU’ QB’s under Urban and Day.

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