Ron English and EMU recruiting

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February 1st, 2011 at 1:23 PM
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Ron English and EMU recruiting

In this busy season of recruiting, I thought at least a handful of people might be interested to see how Ron English is doing at EMU:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/commitmen...

What I found remarkable there is the lack of players from Michigan.  I realize that stocking a roster with only Michiganders is unrealistic when the in-state competition is considered, but I'm surprised that the numbers are so low.  2010 and 2009 are similar.

Did his Family Values comments (http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/freep-ron-english-sells-single-moms-short) hurt that much?  Or, has he just kept his focus where there are more players?

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February 1st, 2011 at 1:29 PM | I'm sure many MGoBloggers (Score:1)
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I'm sure many MGoBloggers would rejoice if we were able to snake oil Sean Cotton from them.

February 1st, 2011 at 2:10 PM | Was thinking that myself when (Score:1)
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Was thinking that myself when  I saw "3* DB, 6'2", 197", I'm almost certain all it would take is an offer, however unlikely that may be.  As a side note, Minnesota should be embarrassed that they were Eastern's main competition and still couldn't pull this kid.

February 1st, 2011 at 1:29 PM | I missed his single mothers (Score:1)
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I missed his single mothers comment. The Freep Creep HQ link in the old board post is no longer available.

February 1st, 2011 at 1:39 PM | "We wanted guys that (Score:1)
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 “We wanted guys that had a father in their background,” said English.”A guy that’s raised by his mom all the time, and please don’t take me wrong, but the reality is that you’ve got to teach that guy how to be taught by a man."

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/08/09/ron-english-rips-single-moms-everywhere-officially-a-jerk/

February 1st, 2011 at 1:49 PM | Well count Ron English on my (Score:1)
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Well count Ron English on my official GTFO Because You Aren't Getting a X-mas Card List.

February 1st, 2011 at 1:56 PM | For the assclown that gave me (Score:1)
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For the assclown that gave me an empty neg, you are on that list too.

February 1st, 2011 at 2:41 PM | BOOOOOMM. That just HAPPENED. (Score:1)
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BOOOOOMM. That just HAPPENED.

How 'bout I punchisize your face, for free.

February 1st, 2011 at 2:54 PM | I knew that it was going to be (Score:1)
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Farva!

 

Dimpus Burger Guy: Uhh, right. Beverage?
Farva: Gimme a litre o' cola.
Dimpus Burger Guy: What?
Farva: [Annoyed] A litre o' cola.
Dimpus Burger Guy: [into mic] Litrecola? Do we sell litrecola?
Thorny: Will you just order a large, Farva?
Farva: I don't want a large farva. I want a goddamn litre o' cola!

 

Captain O'Hagan: I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, " Shenanigans."
Mac: Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Farva: You mean Shenanigans?
Mac: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
Thorny: OOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
[as they hand the Captain their pistols]

February 1st, 2011 at 3:57 PM | Negs (Score:1)
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I know that negs don't yet count, but how the hell was this comment negged?  JHackney was criticizing a comment by Ron English that is ignorant, elitist and inane.  

 

February 1st, 2011 at 4:34 PM | There is only one (Score:1)
jhackney
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There is only one explanation:

February 1st, 2011 at 4:51 PM | Those (Score:1)
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Those are some large testicles, sir.

February 1st, 2011 at 5:55 PM | Thanks (Score:1)
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Thanks, I work out.

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February 1st, 2011 at 6:12 PM | Exactly what kind of crunches (Score:1)
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or lifts does one do to develop their testes?

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
February 1st, 2011 at 6:16 PM | Kegels (Score:1)
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Kegels

February 1st, 2011 at 6:17 PM | I'd better (Score:1)
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tell my wife to cut it out with those, then.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
February 1st, 2011 at 1:33 PM | I thought his "single moms" comment (Score:1)
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was taken out of context and overblown.  He was just giving his honest opinion and insight about something... of course in this day and age that is a terrible idea.

February 1st, 2011 at 1:36 PM | I think you're right on two (Score:1)
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I think you're right on two point, but not the third. It was an honest opinion and overblown, but I don't think it was taken out of context. He said what he meant and meant what he said. He just shouldn't have said it out loud.

February 1st, 2011 at 1:46 PM | What I meant by "taken out of context" (Score:1)
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is a few headlines that said something to the effect of "English doesn't respect single mothers" or "kids raised by single parents aren't good enough for English"... stuff like that.  I agree, he should've kept his mouth shut and realized that everything you say can help or hurt when it comes to recruiting.

February 1st, 2011 at 5:42 PM | Mack Brown (Score:1)
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In fairness to English, he isn't alone by any stretch with this opinion.  Mack Brown said the same thing for years and it was policy at Texas for years to only take kids from a two-parent background.  He then made an exception for Vince Young because supposedly Vince had "one very strong parent in his life."  I'm sure it had nothing to do with his awesomeness at playing football.

It is spelled HOKEAMANIA.  Our coach is an ass-kicking American citizen, not one of the Beatles, for Christ's sake!

February 1st, 2011 at 1:34 PM | EMU (Score:1)
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EMU is the bottom of the barrel for kids from instate. If you're not getting an offer from M or MSU, Central and Western are still better options and my friends who are HS coaches say many kids are picking GVSU over EMU since they'll have a chance to win some championships.

I really don't know what it would take for that program to legitimately turn around. I often wonder whether they ought to just move down to FCS (I-AA or whatever).

February 1st, 2011 at 1:38 PM | I don't know if it had to do (Score:1)
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I don't know if it had to do with his comments, but like you said, it's the competition.  It's hard to recruit a MAC bottom feeder when you have the likes of UM, MSU, CMU, WMU and other MAC schools competing against you.

February 1st, 2011 at 1:45 PM | 6 of 14 commits are from JCs. (Score:1)
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6 of 14 commits are from JCs.  I think they are trying to get players with experience as a short term fix.  

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February 1st, 2011 at 2:14 PM | In over his head (Score:1)
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There is a situation in the workplace known as, "Promoted to the Level of Ineptitude".

If you are a good worker bee, you will often be promoted to worker bee supervisor.  If you do that well, you are promoted to worker bee manager.  And if you do that well you keep progressing...worker bee director, VP, etc.

Unfortunately, in this scenario most bees eventually reach a level where they aren't doing that well anymore.  That is known as the level of ineptitude and those bees will most likely remain there until they retire if they like the position or move on.

The same thing happens in sports.  Position coaches become coordinators and coordinators become head coaches.  Some people make fantastic position coaches or coordinators, but can't ever get it done as a head coach.  I think RE may have reached his level of ineptitude.

Unfortunately most never realize their shortcomings and don't make changes or accept that they are excellent and the next lower level and embrace it.

 

 

February 1st, 2011 at 2:20 PM | aka Michael Scott Syndrome (Score:1)
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February 1st, 2011 at 3:00 PM | Peter Principle (Score:1)
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This is actually a well-known concept called the Peter Principle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Principle.

For an interesting take on how the Peter Principle relates to Michael Scott in particular, I recommend this: http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2009/10/07/the-gervais-principle-or-the-office-according-to-the-office/.

Not sure why embedded hyperlinking is acting up, but the links themselves should work.

February 1st, 2011 at 3:14 PM | Thanks for posting that. A (Score:1)
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Thanks for posting that. A very interesting read.

February 1st, 2011 at 3:43 PM | Yes (Score:1)
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Couldn't remember it was called Peter Principle.  I'm tired and not wanting to be at work today more than normal so my brain couldn't recall the proper name.

 

 

February 1st, 2011 at 4:08 PM | great read.  thanks (Score:1)
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great read.  thanks

February 1st, 2011 at 5:18 PM | Ouch! (Score:1)
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Painful!

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February 1st, 2011 at 3:59 PM | The first time I read the (Score:1)
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The first time I read the link I thought it said "Ron English Sells Single Moms Shirt" and I thought why in the hell is he selling shirts? But then I read it again and it wasn't as funny, actually pretty serious. 

February 1st, 2011 at 6:10 PM | It's actually impressive (Score:1)
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that they got ANY kids from Michigan to commit. You might be able to convince a kid from Arizona that Eastern hasn't always sucked gigantic gonads.

"This is the EMU game, not the emo game."
February 1st, 2011 at 6:50 PM | honestly (Score:1)
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i would guess that eastern has trouble recruiting against gvsu in state

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