Rivals team rankings are out
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/
Michigan currently sits at #9
And Kenny Wilkens is a 4* now!
And I believe that we had a couple unranked guys that are now 3* (as C. Jones, Williamson, DiLeo, and Drake are listed as 3*)
Without looking too deeply into this, most players that a school like Michigan recruits get a 3rd star as an obligatory "we don't know much about him, but if Michigan (or OSU, or Florida, etc) want him, he must be at least a 3 star"
I think Wilkins has been a 4 star on there for a while. Or was that Scout? I know one of them had him as a 4star and I'm pretty sure scout moved him up, so I think he was a 4star on rivals already.
Pretty positive he was a 4 star on scout before rivals. I beleive he was a 4 star on scout when he committed and just very recently got the 4th on Rivals.
Yeah, that happened last week.
+1 for your avatar alone
This isn't player rankings, it's team. It came out today.
Anyone else think it's bizarre that there are absolutely NO quarterbacks in the Rivals top 50? The highest ranked QB is at #54.
The top dual-threat QB isn't even in the top 100.
No, but only because it happens ALL THE TIME in NCCA 09 and now 10. I once encountered a recruiting year in which the Top 100 was manned entirely by HBs, WRs, one TE and one DE, and when the top four QBs finally showed up, it was at #112, they were four in a row, and they were all JUCOs. Either a glitch or EA is prescient and high school quarterbacks are about to get Roland Emmerich'd.
LOL I love how you use NCAA 09 and 10 as a guide. If only a non bcs school could play/win the NC like in the game, fire up chips!!! Unless of course MEEEEEEEEEEECHIGAN was in contention.
a dual-threat being left off the top 100 is not too bizarre - rivals puts heavy stock into your pro prospects, and a lot of these dual-threat guys don't project well at the next level. I totally disagree with their assertion that Gardner is a fringe top 200 player, based on his offers and general kickassedness.
...yet...
I smell Mr. Gardner headed in that direction
They must plan on updating this, MSU should be at least in the top 5 with all the instate talent.
There was an article on ESPN I perused earlier and there was an MSU troll talking smack about hoping RR stays at M so lil sister keeps on winning.
It's quite obvious to all partial lil sister automatons that this is a new world order and lil sister is going to continue to smack down the M every year, in every sport.
Somehow I doubt this.
But this is the feeling of the media.
our average come up to around last years 3.59 from the current 3.31, I realize that the season will shift things and I have a ton of confidence in the staff but this seems like a fairly precipitous drop to me overall.
I was thinking the same thing. from my reply to the msu fan on epsn's site, I tried to remind people that the recruiting sites don't like small fast guys. They could be the most productive in the world, but if they're not prototypical NFL type players, they get rated down.
Exchanges probably go something like this...
Scout: Editor, look at this guy.
Editor: What? He's only 5'6" but has 4.2 40 speed? He's obviously too small to play 'real football'. Give him 2 stars.So much worse if he's a QB who runs, give him 1 star.
RR doesn't care about height and weight and the recruiting ranking sites do. For some reason he cares about skill and speed.
Tell me that the NFL D-coordinators don't specifically gameplan Sproles. The game is changing a bit in the NFL too - mark my marginally educated words, my friend. Fast + shifty + staying healthy = scary football player. These types of guys come from which programs? We shall see, but it won't be from smash-mouth teams like the old Michigan.
I have been thinking the same thing.The wildcat, basically spread type football,can work in the nfl. When they had vick atlanta did run the zone read option. When we start seeing more tebow like qb's, running threats who dont make you worry about injury with there size, we will see more spread type offenses in the nfl.
Holding your breath would be a bad choice.
Probably right, I wish I had the link to validate but I did read something about Bill Belacheck*, Jon Gruden*, and another NFL coach*, visiting Urban Meyer to learn about his spread system. It may have something to do with me wanting to continue to see MEEEEEECHIGAN produce pro qb's, but like the little kid in angels in the outfield said "hey, it could happen" *= intoxication may lead to, but not limited to,slaughtering names, mentioning analyists as coaches(he will have a NFL job next season) and completly forgeting another noteworthy coach's name
3-9.
I would like for our overall team rating to jump as well but I don't know how much it will unless Gardner gets his 5th star and Drake bumps up to a 4th star, which could happen ... I think he is going to be a hell of a back. I don't know who would really be able to move up much though, Williamson maybe? Pace, probably. adding cullen would help it too.
I thought I heard somewhere that Pace could end up adding a star. I could also have made that up.
One of the rivals guys basically said Pace would be a 4-star if it weren't for his size.
I think Hopkins could pick up a 4th if he has a productive senior year.
but I was looking at Rivals historical ranking of players 1-100 and I noticed they ranked Calvin Johnson as a LB coming out of high school. Which, like, WTF?
It's these kind of WTF assessments that put the predictive ability of the recruiting sites in perspective.
I was basing it on this page. I didn't click through to his profile. Probably just a typo on their part.
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=969058
Can the "I would like our rating to be better" crowd stop making that statement? Isn't it kind of a given since you're a Michigan fan that you would want Michigan's recruiting class to be ranked higher?
should be 6.394
I noticed TOSU is ranked 18. Is this abnormal? Anybody remember how things looked for them the past few years at this time of the year (not in absolute numbers of verbals but relative to other teams those years)? Do they have players just waiting in the wings to commit? Where is the abnormality - with TOSU or this year in general?
Devin Gardner is a silent commit to tUoOS.
-3 points? Looks like you guys missed the joke.
There's really not an abnormality. Yes, last year OSU got a lot of top recruits early. Just because they haven't yet this year doesn't mean they won't. There is SO MUCH time left. Look at where USC is on the list. They will be much higher in 6 months.
That said, I don't really like these team ranking lists. They are way too objective, and whose class is really better takes a lot more into account. One team might bring in 3 4 star CB's, when they already have good young CB's and 2 of those guys will never see the field. Another team might bring in a 2 4 star LBs where they have little depth and a 4star QB who is a perfect fit for the system. These will be seen as equal to the rankings, but one is clearly a better situation for the team.
Never thought of the objectivity of the rankings as being a bad thing - but seems to make perfect sense. It's a question of comparison of extent of class fit to a particular environment (a program) rather than comparison of individual fitness to a general environment (college football as a whole). Class rankings need criteria in addition to compiling individual commits - they need criteria for each program for the rankings to be meaningful.
Very interesting points.
They're taking a small class this year and they only have 9 commits currently.
I find it surprising how well UM is recruiting this year given all the negative reports. I get the feeling that if the MSU and UM rankings were reversed, you would see headlines in the Detroit papers bringing attention to it.