Rivals position rankings: 3 stars galore

Submitted by Marcus818 on
The rivals position rankings are out and most of Michigan's committs and recruits that hold us in high regard are 3 star prospects. Cullen Christian, Lo Wood, Corvin Lamb, Austin White...

West Texas Blue

May 7th, 2009 at 5:05 PM ^

Hehe, so last year everyone said Scout sucked for rating alot of commits lower than Rivals, and now this year it looks like it's going to be the opposite.

GOBLUE4EVR

May 7th, 2009 at 6:24 PM ^

seriously stop with it. a lot of this info is based off of their JR year in high school. what would you rather have a kid that is a 3* player now that moves up to a 4 or 5* or have 4 or 5* star player now that drops to a 3 or 2* player???

bigmc6000

May 7th, 2009 at 6:28 PM ^

I'm thinking people are hoping for the 4 and 5 stars that stay 4 and 5 stars. Given the two options you listed I'm sure everyone would take the first but I think people are hoping for what I mentioned.

Maize and Blue…

May 7th, 2009 at 8:59 PM ^

5* that dropped to a 3*. I know it's Bball, but it is not unheard of. These services only have so many people on the ground so getting to see every kid is near impossible. DJ had a very good soph year, but was hurt last year by poor QB play and increased attention from D's. Williamson also recently ran a 10.6 100. Not quite Denard speed.....

STW P. Brabbs

May 7th, 2009 at 7:11 PM ^

I agree that it is too early for the recruiting ranking hand-wringing. But aren't some of you guys the same people who jump down people's throats for "recruiting rankings don't matter because Pat White"?

Blue boy johnson

May 7th, 2009 at 7:19 PM ^

IMO, way to much emphasis on Stars and fake 40's. Appears to me RR wants great athletes who love football and love to compete. RR has an excellent track record as a College Head Coach, so until he proves otherwise, I am in his corner and feels he knows quite well what he is doing. Being able to forecast the developing mental make-up distinctions between say a 22 year old Tom Brady and Ryan Leaf is muy dificil.

cargo

May 7th, 2009 at 7:19 PM ^

man i wish they were rated in hamburgers. Then every one would complain were getting triple patty burgers instead of quadruple patty burgers.

MH20

May 7th, 2009 at 9:06 PM ^

Christian is the first 3* CB, I have to imagine with a good SR year he will be a 4*. Rashad Knight is the last 4* CB, Mathis is the #8 CB and a solid 4*. What does this all mean? It means for some reason I want a double cheeseburger.

Marcus818

May 7th, 2009 at 10:26 PM ^

You've got to be kidding me? Why does someone always have to bring up a team that had a good season without top recruiting. They play in a weak conference. They BARELY beat us, a 3-9 team. If you think that team could have gone 13-0 in a BCS conference you're dillusional. So by your method of thinking that means Michigan can get three 4*'s in the next 3 years and we'll be playing for the national championship? Lame argument!

Magnus

May 7th, 2009 at 10:40 PM ^

I don't think he was implying that we could be national championship contenders with such poor recruiting. He's just pointing out that good recruiting isn't always necessary for a good season. Also, Utah capped off the season by beating Alabama. Weak conference or not, that was a pretty good victory.

Blue boy johnson

May 7th, 2009 at 10:56 PM ^

Not only that, but also, some of the Utah recruits may have been undervalued coming out of HS. In the same time frame Michigan recruits may have been overvalued. I think the 2 schools had roughly the same amount of players drafted to the NFL this year. Class rankings are best analyzed in hindsight. 3,4,5 Star rating is just a snapshot of a players development. Player development is a dynamic process and somewhat hard to forecast. Based on RR prior success he might just be a decent talent evaluator

ThWard

May 8th, 2009 at 10:48 AM ^

Just the new "Mike Hart was a 3 star, Kevin Grady was a 5 star" lame exceptions-citing argument, on a broader team level? I mean - does anyone here really think consistently finishing in the 50s in recruiting will lead to undefeated seasons? If not, then why does citing one exception (which essentially proves the rule) really mean much? Yes. A team has gone undefeated without recruiting well. Stipulated. 99% of the other undefeated teams historically crushed it in recruiting (relatively speaking). With that said, again, too early too early too early, to discuss rankings.

Magnus

May 8th, 2009 at 10:56 AM ^

There are multiple exceptions of weak recruiting turning into good teams. A few recent examples are Boise State, Utah, and West Virginia. None of those teams won the national championship, but I think most of us would be pretty happy with 11-2 or something like that. And if our coaches can be equally adept at coaching these 4-stars up - since we DON'T recruit as poorly as WVU, Utah, or BSU - then that would be an excellent thing. I'm not saying it's likely that we'll go 13-0 if we recruit a bunch of Antonio Kinards and Drew Dileos. Luckily, we're not. Good coaching can do amazing things. I think that's the point.

ThWard

May 8th, 2009 at 11:07 AM ^

There are a lot of programs that don't "recruit" well but are successful most years (some even incredibly successful, like the teams you cited): BC, GT, etc. also come to mind. I just don't think citing Utah's season moves the ball here. Don't we all think recruiting matters? I do. Don't we all think coaching matters? I do. The best teams, year in year out, will have both. UM is going to have both, so I'm not worried, I just don't like citing extremes to prove a point.

Jay

May 8th, 2009 at 11:07 AM ^

but, if you remember, Bama's O line was in dissaray for most of the game. I wouldn't be so quick to downplay the impact of losing the best left tackle in college football had on their offense. They really didn't move the ball well in that first half.

wolverine1987

May 8th, 2009 at 1:27 PM ^

This is my pet BCS bowl theory (which admittedly allows me to dismiss the losses of OK and Bama in recent years): if you are in a BCS bowl that is not the title game, motivation is lower than a regular season game because you missed out on the title shot and the game means nothing. And if you are playing a non-BCS school you should beat, lower that incentive even further. Then the non-BCS team comes in with everything in the world to prove ("we belong with these guys"). You then have the perfect situation for an upset. I don't think in any way, that Utah and Boise's wins proved anything at all. Especially that they "belong" in the same discussions as BSC schools. Bama and OK win those games 9 out of every 10.

Magnus

May 8th, 2009 at 1:38 PM ^

You're basing your analysis on TALENT. Motivation is a big factor in sports and in life. There are plenty of "smart" people with little motivation, and therefore hardworking people pass them up. Part of playing football is being motivated to do so. If you can't get hyped up to play your opponent - no matter who they are - then you have failed as a team. Position by position, Oklahoma has more talent than Boise State. That's obvious. Nobody's arguing that. But if Oklahoma were the better team that day, they would have won. If Alabama were the better team that day, they would have won. Excuses are like assholes - everyone's got one and they all stink.

Mr Stevens

May 9th, 2009 at 5:21 PM ^

I really can't say that I like this class or dislike it so far. We will have to wait and see.