Retaining Sherrone Moore
The more I look at Michigan's success, the more I get nervous about not retaining Sherrone Moore after this season (should Harbaugh stay).
What he did against OSU and PSU in my mind is nothing short of remarkable and you have to start giving this guy much of the credit for the development in O-Line play and play calling. Will also add that it seems players absolutely love him.
My fear is that no matter how much money Michigan finds for him this offseason, he's going to have a lot of options for HC vacancies and I think letting him walk would really set the team back. Of course, if Harbaugh leaves he would be a top candidate if not the first choice for the HC vacancy. Anything else Michigan would be able to do to keep him warm for a few years?
November 28th, 2023 at 2:11 PM ^
What about lemons?
November 28th, 2023 at 4:47 PM ^
No lemons!
I'm still scarred from listening to WD follow through.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
Im not so sure. Ironically, I think Michigan's success is helping us keep him at Michigan. A lot of these other schools need to hire head coaches immediately in order to secure a transfer class and a recruiting class. Meanwhile Michigan and Sheronne Moore are busy focusing on the Big Ten title and a national championship. No school worth taking the job is going to wait until after the Rose Bowl or national championship in January.
November 28th, 2023 at 2:38 PM ^
Didn't stop Dan Lanning from taking the Oregon job. He was announced on December 11, 2021. He did stay on to coach through the CFP that year for Georgia which I would expect Moore to do the same if he were take another job.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:38 PM ^
This is a huge first world problem.
And I think from Harbaugh on down, we have a culture that will be excited for his new opportunity. Maybe we fans should follow their great example. I love the culture that the staff/players have. Thank you, Coach Harbaugh!
November 28th, 2023 at 2:11 PM ^
Right.
Only at MGoBlog can we be worrying about too much success. We have a friggin championship game and then playoffs - can we keep the worries on deck until after those?
Moore in not a unicorn. He has been handed a Lamborghini wrought through 9 years of friggin hard work by Harbaugh and just told not to crash it 4 days a year. Harbaugh is one of the most accomplished coaches in the past 20 years.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:39 PM ^
The way I look at it, we either keep Harbaugh or Moore. Win-win, kind of.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:42 PM ^
Sorry but we want him to go to another program as head coach and be successful just like Jedd Fisch. Harbaugh hired him and can hire successfully again.
Coach Moore is a Michigan man and if proven successful in the future if he wants to come back then he will be welcomed back with open arms. He needs to demonstrate that he can build a successful program.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:42 PM ^
This is Harbaughs team and I think minter would have won all four, too. I love Sherrone but these players are self functioning.
November 28th, 2023 at 2:04 PM ^
So the players choose their own substitutions and plays? They make the game theory decisions?
November 28th, 2023 at 1:46 PM ^
If Harbaugh stays, he’s probably gone. And that’s ok. Good programs lose coaches.
Maybe he comes back after a successful 3-4 year stint at a mid-major or lower end P4 team.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:46 PM ^
This is his press conference after the Penn State game. His comments at the 1:10 mark really stuck out to me. If this place really means this much to him I could see him sticking around as a coach in waiting if Harbaugh does end up leaving in a few years.
November 28th, 2023 at 2:09 PM ^
that microphone is not plugged into anything
November 28th, 2023 at 1:48 PM ^
Not to throw cold water on this, but remember that Harbaugh was still coaching the team the other six days of the week. I don't know everything that goes into the HC role, but Harbaugh was still filling it most of the week. We don't know how the last three weeks would have been if he could not have any contact with the team for the entire duration.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
I'm going to play devils' advocate here. Sherrone Moore did a bang-up job each of the last 3 Saturdays. But this was still Jim Harbaugh's team. He ran things 6 days of the week and also met with the team before they headed to the stadium on the 7th day. There's a lot more involved leading up to Saturday noon that Moore didn't have to do. Might it be better for him to go to a smaller school and run an entire program first?
Edit: lilpenny beat me to it.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:56 PM ^
I, too, love Coach Moore and hope he stays at Michigan, but I don't believe in standing in the way of someone's opportunity (in this case with $$) and, given his prior public statements, I doubt that Coach Harbaugh would want to do so.
November 28th, 2023 at 1:59 PM ^
I'm worried about both coordinators. The defense being solid has been just as crucial as the Oline play.
November 28th, 2023 at 2:05 PM ^
Sad to say but institutional racism may keep him off the list for many schools. I haven't seen him listed for any prominent jobs. It's a lot like the NFL. Seems like most schools will look at white retreads and/or young guys w/ thin resumes before they look at a qualified black coach (ducks).
November 28th, 2023 at 2:11 PM ^
Agree with you and think we should do whatever is necessary to keep him. However, if he were to leave for a HC position elsewhere it would suck having to fill his shoes, but I do see a couple positives. 1) It would give him experience he would not receive if he were to stay here. 2) Then when JH retires (hopefully he stays till then), Moore can come home with many years of leading a program and keep us at the level we have experienced the previous 3 years. Go Blue, Beat Iowa!
November 28th, 2023 at 2:17 PM ^
I think Sherrone knows he has the HC job here lined up if Harbaugh leaves. He's probably going to stick around unless a high tier power 4 job is offered to him.
November 28th, 2023 at 2:26 PM ^
Personally, I think we have at least another year with Moore. With the amount of pearl-clutching going on around Signgate, schools are probably reluctant to hire someone as a head coach with an immediate PERCEIVED albatross.
This is not to say Moore did anything wrong. I don't think he did. But if he gets hired before the NCAA concludes its investigation, I'll be surprised.
November 28th, 2023 at 2:31 PM ^
I think Harbaugh will be coaching in the NFL next year and the choice of who succeeds him as Michigan’s coach will be critical. It shouldn’t automatically be assumed Moore would be the best choice. As we’ve seen over and over again, success as a coordinator doesn’t guarantee success as a Head Coach. It took years of struggle and a near firing before Harbaugh, who already had a track record of success, to get Michigan to where it is. It’ll be just as hard for someone else to maintain what Harbaugh built, and maybe even harder. If they make the wrong choice, all of this can disappear quickly.
November 28th, 2023 at 4:50 PM ^
You say this shit every year.
November 28th, 2023 at 2:52 PM ^
Moore and Minter both signed new three year contracts $1.125-1.25M. The highest paid assistants for Clemson/OSU/Washington//LSU are all close to $2M
Put a contract in from of them for $2.0M now. They will have their chance at a HC, but they won’t need to take a challenge like an Indiana or an MSU. They can wait for the right spot
November 28th, 2023 at 5:01 PM ^
I agree with this, while I’d be supportive of him taking a jump somewhere…if he gets paid great he could take the Brent Venables approach and wait for the perfect job to open in a few years.
I almost, in some ways prefer these assistants to take a HC job themselves and not be put in a “coach in waiting” scenario for Michigan. I say this because then we get to see how they build a program, as opposed to just not breaking what Harbaugh has built (That is what Moeller and Carr were asked to do as pertains to Bo).
Maybe 10 years down the road one of these guys comes back still as Harbuagh’s successor, but they have proved themselves as great program builders elsewhere, not needing to inherit a great situation (even though they would), but proving they can fully run a program on their own terms as Harbaugh and Bo, and several before them did.
November 28th, 2023 at 3:12 PM ^
I'm sure I'll get negged but the story and script make perfect sense for him to take over this program after the season ends.
I said this in a thread on Sunday, but I truly believe Coach Harbaugh has already made up his mind and has been campaigning for Moore to be his successor behind the scenes.
I really hope Coach Harbaugh stays here but if he doesn't, I think we are in good hands with Coach Moore.
Go Blue! Beat Iowa!
November 28th, 2023 at 3:25 PM ^
I'd love for him to stay. I think there is a chance he will. I really like hearing how the team likes him. I really like the trust Harbaugh put into him. I of course love how he beat his arch-rival substitute teacher Ryan "Softness" Day.
But if he chooses to leave, he's earned it. i will root for his success and the team he goes to.
November 28th, 2023 at 4:54 PM ^
I would love to retain him, but I would be supportive of him also to take a coaching vacancy. I just hope and pray that he takes the Dan Lanning approach if he’s hired somehwere in late December and does the double prep for the playoffs and for whatever team might choose him as a coach.
November 29th, 2023 at 1:14 AM ^
CEOs at corporations have succession plans. These are often well known in advance.
Jim Harbaugh should have a succession plan in advance with Sherrone Moore as his successor.