Rashan Gary’s Contract
Rashan has endured a whole lot of unnecessary b.s. through the past year or so. I think it’s fair to say he can give a big eff you to all the haters (Including Chris Frey). I am totally overjoyed for him AND his mom. Here is his contract summary:
https://twitter.com/robdemovsky/status/1124406397809172480?s=21
Glad he's getting paid very well, but his contract doesn't change the fact that he was underwhelming HERE.
He might not have met our wild expectations, but the fact is that he was an extremely impactful player on our defense. Just the double (and sometimes triple) teams he absorbed created opportunities for others. And there were many games in which he was an absolute beast. Even if key select stats were not as great as we would have liked, you could put together a very impressive highlight reel of Gary's time in a Michigan uniform.
Ah, the old “triple team” nonsense.
If they repeat it enough it'll be true
That sentiment cuts both ways.
No sentence could better summarize MGoBlog.
I'm holding out for the quadruple team!!!
Amazing how bosa was never double-teamed or even triple-teamed.
I think you you have to actually play in order to be double or triple-teamed.
Hers 64 times Rashan Gary was triple teamed
Guess he never got double teamed,they just went straight to triple teaming him
https://youtu.be/S_FxHP5B7mw
https://youtu.be/S_FxHP5B7mw
^ looks like a few of these plays are different angles where he is blocked,still 20+ times where he is triple blocked
There are no triple teams in that video, not one. And there is possibly only one double team. What you were seeing looked like zone blocking.
And in maybe 20% of those plays Rashan Gary wasn't even blocked.
triple team is bullshit...double team, 100%.
Winovich was the benefactor and took advantage of it (plus some).
I'll say it again, if Peppers and Gary beat OSU and won a B1G championship (and played in the bowl)...EVEN with the exact same stats, you assholes would be singing a completely different tune.
For 90+% of you, your anger has everything to do with the fact that neither was able to be Woodson and elevate a TEAM into TEAM greatness.
Peppers was a fucking MONSTER! You all act like Chris Wormley was better than Gary. Gary did the job he was being asked to do and did it at an ELITE level.
But I know, fuck him for sitting out because he was hurt and then not playing in the bowl game because he wasn't 100% and he had THIS contract on the table.
This is EXACTLY why these guys sit out bowl games.
Go live 18 years in young Rashan Gary's life and you'll understand why he was ugly crying all over national TV. Sorry, but Chase Winovich and Jake Butt didn't come from the same background as Gary or Peppers. Even if they did...look at that contract!! I don't care what your background is...that is A LOT of money.
Now he can afford plenty of tissue for all of you losers crying about his performance while at Michigan. You should DM him.
P.S. And to the 2-3 of you SHITTING on him for starting his own agency...HA HA HA. Worked out pretty damn good. Looks like that Michigan education paid off and he knew what he was doing after all...AND on top of that, he's paying himself that 5-10%. That's gotta feel good.
Chris Wormley was better than Gary hence why he was voted as a Second team All American. And Peppers was not a monster. He wasnt elite at anything except punt returning. Very good sure, but not a monster.
Wormley was not better than Gary...stop it. You're the kind of guy that thinks Hudson is better than Peppers.
Gary didn't play 12-13 games, so of course he's not going to be an All-American. That's a ridiculous response on your behalf. Wormley was more durable that Gary, that can't be argued...and part of that should (IMO) be factored into someone's greatness. That said, when Gary was on the field he was a beast in doing exactly what he was asked to do.
Peppers was a MONSTER. Period. He was only elite at punt returns? LOL. Go back and look at every bubble screen he blew up. Every tackle he made by coming all the way from the weakside. Peppers was all over the field.
Check the UFRs.
The only thing Peppers didn't do was get a bunch of INTs. That was his knock. He played the VIPER! position at an ELITE level.
You're telling on yourself.
Yeah, "Winovich was the benefactor."
In fact, Winovich benefited so much from Rashan's dominance that his performance fooled NFL scouts, too.
Winovich absolutely benefited from Gary taking on the bulk of the doubles.
That doesn't mean he's not an NFL player. You act like Chase was picked before Rashan, lol. He went in the 3rd round.
Without question he benefited from Rashan taking on the doubles...Chase was a monster 1v1 and sometimes 1v2...no one questions that.
Taco Charlton benefited from Chris Wormley. Doesn't say anything about Taco's ability.
Shea Patterson benefited from the best OL Michigan's had in I don't know how many years...these are all facts. None of these facts mean a player is or is not good, great, elite.
Common sense.
That's why you build a TEAM...our Anchor does the dirty work...the Anchor (Gary) is closer to the DT position than it is the Edge/Weakside DE spot. Wormley would flip back and forth between the 3 and 5 technique.
This year Kwity Paye and Luiji Vilian will benefit from Aidan Hutchinson doing the dirty work. It's how the defense is designed.
Wow. Don’t let the internet get to you so much buddy. That’s some serious intensity.
Im not certain Wormley was better, but Taco was light years better than Gary.
1. Taco didn't do anything until late in his career.
2. Taco didn't play Gary's position, he played Winovich's position. You can compare Taco and Winovich, you can't compare either to Gary (or Wormley for that matter).
I don't know about Taco, but I'm certain Chase Winovich is better than Rashan Gary.
Who is angry? I mean besides you. I think everyone here realizes that Gary was a good, solid player. Sure there is some disappointment he never reached his potential, but I don't see people here angry at him.
If he would have just slid down to 3T I think he would have made A bigger impact. I’ve heard he and mom were adamant he stick to the edge, but who knows if that’s true or not. Regardless, he came and stayed and played and bled maize and blue, and I’ll always respect him for that and appreciate his careers both here and in the pros.
Also, dat gawd damn signing bonus. Even if he’s slightly productive, he will see 8 years or more and plenty of money in the pros. And let’s not forget he doesn’t really have to shell out 10-15% to an agent. Smart moves and glad to see him get paid. I think he will be a beast at the next level personally
The NFL caps what percent an agent can make at 3%. Nobody in the NFL pays 10-15%.
He didn't play the edge, but I know what you mean...he was on the end.
I agree that he may have made a bigger impact from a pass rushing standpoint, but I'm not sure it would've been a smart move from a run defender standpoint.
His position is similar to the 3T anyway. Meanwhile Chase/Taco (now Paye/Vilian) are asked to do something totally different and a lot of that is use your speed and get to the QB off the edge.
To your point, this is why I think the Packers are idiots for trying to make him an OLB (even though they're extremely multiple and he'll play just as much DE).
That said, I don't like him in the 3-4, he's not Clowney. To me, he's a lot like Cam Jordan that plays for the Saints.
Chase's production suffered when Rashan got hurt is what I recall.
Yes, Chase's production as well as Bush's, from a pure stats perspective, took a hit when Gary was out.
Eh no. He didn’t live up to normal expectations which just happened to be on par with Jadeveon Clowney since he was the highest rated recruit since him.
*Highest recruit since Robert Nkemdiche
Good grief the bs with triple teaming gets old. Know what I saw him getting stoned one on one in the OSU game.
His technique sucks, so if him over coming adversity means that he over came being a good football player and just got by on his God given physical tools than good for him.
Enough already. We don’t need the same chorus of this crap every time Rashan Gary’s name come up on this board. Get past it.
It must suck to be this miserable...jeez be happy for the man. Time and place, you wet blanket.
I don’t come to the board much these days but occasionally i do and see crap hateful sad comments like the ones above and i remember why i stopped reading the board. See you guys later. ??
Michigan gets top rated recruit in the country. he then plays starting as a freshman and has a big impact in limited minutes. he takes over starting role as a sophomore and plays his heart out the next two seasons, despite suffering from an ongoing shoulder injury that never heals. He is all big ten 1st team both seasons. The team (it is a team sport after all) has the #1, #3, and #2 overall defense while he's on the team. He is then taken as the 12th overall pick in the NFL draft by a prominent and successful NFL team. He never has off the field issues.
Fan shits on him because....he wasn't the best player of all time? He didn't beat OSU by himself? he wasn't the number 1 overall pick? can we stop with the "this guy didn't do enough" in all the threads celebrating the successful start to an NFL career for a guy who played hard for his team? Your fandom is underwhelming HERE.
This conversation about Gary’s value to the defense is somewhat incomplete. While he didn’t have the stats we all wanted, part of the analysis has to include what the defense is like this year without Gary/Winovich/Bush. If Brown plugs in the new guys and they don’t miss a beat then the argument that Gary underperformed strengthens. On the other hand, if this defense struggles mightily, maybe it’s a clue Gary was much harder to replace than many on here seem to think.
I am one who is concerned. Clearly many others aren’t. But I will appreciate all concerns concerning my concern.
Some serious jack, Good luck young man, make us proud!
You look for an athlete you don't know and probably never met to make you proud? Weird.
He represents the University of Michigan, the same school in which many who post here take pride. It's not rocket surgery.
Markp, Jud’s only affiliation with this great university is his pathetic existence on this website. Let this jealous guy have his day in the sun being a smart aleck...
You are correct Indy in that I have no affiliation with UM other than being a member on one of their boards. I like to banter occasionally outside of an echo chamber. Honestly calling it a "pathetic existence" sounds a bit insecure.
I get that it must seem weird to a Spartan fan to be proud of your team and program. It's not that strange of a concept around here however.
Not very creative. I would concede that feeling proud of a team or program is pretty normal. Feeling proud or over joyed of someone I don't know would be odd though.
Umm ok. Last I checked teams and programs were made of individual real people. It makes sense to be proud of the team but not the individual people? Whatever.
A Spartan has to separate individuals from the institution because the individuals are such a disgrace, and they want to keep cheering for their institution. Look at Payne, appling, Walton, Corley, King, Vance, Robertson etc, etc.
PS: I bet his response mentions Grant Perry and Lewan.
Who are Perry and Lewan? Did they do something wrong?
dear jud,
a.) you seem pretty proud of jud, or at least his forehead. and given you are a sparty, that can only mean jud heathcoat, right? i assume you can't be proud to be a spartan though given the world's largest sexual assault cover-up over many sports and decades.
1. president of school - resigned in disgrace and indicted
2. dean of med. school - resigned in disgrace and indicted
3. women's gymnastics coach - resigned in disgrace and indicted
4. long-time AD - resigned in disgrace and probably should've been indicted
5. interim president - resigned in disgrace and an epic embarrassment to sparty.
b.) rival fans are welcomed here as long as they aren't jerks. a little humility, especially given your fan base, would do you well. you seem to have some trouble with that last part and you should take a clue from some PSU and even OSU posters here that are very cool, get their point across and/or participate in various discussions, and folks like them a ton.
Hey thanks for the advice. I'll keep that in mind if I ever felt the need to personally insult any wolverine athlete or poster. Curious why many people always feel the need to bring up low lifes at MSU involved in covering up or actively involved in things like the Nassar case like its representational of the institution as whole. It would be like saying Ted Kaczynski, Kevorkian, Lewan, Ann Coulter, or Gibbons are representational of U of M. That would make no sense. But its not atypical in fanbase banter or back and forth. Guess its the gotcha culture. It's why I focus on sports and not people. Most high level athletes are pretty horrible people percentage wise compared to your regular Joe..
what part of 'over many sports and many decades' did you miss? actually, you didn't miss it, you just don't have an answer. and while it may work to pick a few people out of hundreds of thousands or even millions that attended our fine school in the last 3/4 century when you are responding to simpletons, the discussion is much more nuanced than that - your school actively, knowingly, and intentionally suppressed hundreds of sexual assaults AND loads of criminal issues that your fav coaches know/knew and suppressed as well. that means izzo and dantony. you made attempting to catch big brother in athletics an idol and your idol worship cost you dearly. the cancer in your school is systemic and pervasive, over many programs and many years. you know the difference and so do we.
so banter all you want, but be truthful and don't embarrass yourself as a troll. i repeat, cool rival fans are welcomed here. you should try being one.
The HBO Larry Nassar documentary was televised this weekend. If you can watch that and still feel proud of MSU you are a failure at life. But feel free to hang out on our board jack ass.
Will do STD.
Is that Sparty’s T-shirt line for next year?
Athletes, teachers, administrators, and alumni represent the university they attend/work for.
Of course we want Gary to make us proud because he is a Michigan man.
Considering your affiliation with MSU, how does their affiliation with Larry Nasser make you feel? How does the way that Simon, the Board and Engler handled the situation make you feel, given your affiliation with that school?
It doesn’t matter if you know the person or not. They can still make you proud, disappointed or ashamed given your mutual affiliation with the school. You idiot.