Just curious, who else here thinks that Pryor will sing like a canary if they don't let him play? I personally think he will spill ALL of the beans if they try to keep him off the field. From whate we've learned, I don't see him keeping his mouth shut through all of this.
The Pryor Situation
He already knew he wasn't playing for 5 games. Won't suprise me if he bolts.
97.1 is reporting that he has supposedly declaring himself eligible into the supplementary draft.
I don't believe that for a second. He promised....
Tressel was basically the only thing keeping Buckeye fans' opinion of him to be alright, so with Tressel gone, Buckeye fans will turn on him.
Time to GTFO if I was Terrelle Liar.
All of the delusional buckeye fans(basically all buckeye fans) still think very highly of JT. I have seen lots of comments of them blaming the whole thing on TP.
Or took a few liberties with their female party guests, they did.
Sorry, couldn't resist. Where is Dean Wermer when you need him.
Why is this post consistently downvoted? It's insightful and pretty accurate if you peruse any of the buckeye sights.
On the one hand, I don't think Pryor is smart enough to avoid spilling the beans at some point.
On the other hand, I don't think he'll bit the hand that feeds him in the near future. Part of that is because these are the people that have given him anything and everything in his life and he won't turn on them yet. Look at Chris Webber - he still hasn't spoken about it.
Another part of it is that I don't think Pryor believes he did anything wrong (also similar to Webber to some extent). He's been given handouts his entire life and thus he probably doesn't comprehend the idea of ratting people out for something that is so common to him.
I think what will get interesting is what happens with his NFL career....if there is such a thing. Remember that Clarett's biggest issues started when he couldn't stick in the NFL and suddenly found himself without a chair when the music stopped. Those handouts were gone, his name was tarnished, and he had nothing else. So he started yapping for attention and because he got busted for other stupid decisions. I think that will be the tipping point for Pryor too - having to deal with life without football when he's alone to make his own dumb decisions.
Conversely, if Pryor does find a way to have a successful NFL career I think he keeps his mouth shut and says nothing but good about OSU and Mr. Vest.
Re: Webber and "biting the hand that feeds you", are you serious? Didn't Webber completely throw Martin under the bus?
I realize you probably meant the University, but Martin was the one doing the "feeding" in this analogy.
"I feel like I want to get my degree and finish off strong and maybe have a better season next year with no losses,” Pryor said. “I love being here and I need to develop more knowledge as a human being and not worry about money and stuff like that.”
“I want to leave a legacy here, maybe someday get my jersey hung up. That’s one of my goals as well here.”
But he already has his jersey hung up in assorted Columbus-area tattoo parlors and car dealerships, isn't that enough?
He has also left quite a legacy.
Wouldn't be supprised if other seniors besides the suspended go too...
Even if he does run his mouth, the university will just paint him as some crazy ex-player that they've done with Clarrett and Small
Somehow, I think Mr. Clarrett's stories are a bit more plausible now than they were years ago.....
I think Pryor has already checked out and doesn't give two s****s what happens from here on out.
THE GUY PULLED UP IN A NEW 350Z, for God's sake! The only thing he could have done more indifferent would be to exit his car with a hand full of signed jerseys and exchange them for cash at the front door of the Hayes Complex on his way into the team meeting.
Pryor is going to have enough problems finding an NFL team to take him with all his baggage (see "Ryan Mallett"). He doesn't need to add "badmouthing ex-coaches/teammates" to his list of character flaws.
media outlet might challenge his ethics. /s
I know that Sports Illustrated doesn't. It seems like a pretty reckless thing to do unless the source has documents to support his story.
along with photos of cars and boosters might suffice. TP would consider the National Enquirer a reupatable rag since Ohio is #1 in circulation.
it is impossible to predict what he may do, but the odds are high it won't be rational.
before answering, but in the end, yeah, he'll squeal.
I'm pretty sure that at this stage Pryor is very confused and probably scared as hell. It's bad enough when you know 1 or 2 people have it out for you, but now you have fans, the press, current coaches, current and former players, etc.
I thought he was a basket case on the gridiron, slouching on the bench after an INT, yelling at teammates with a furrowed brow, and throwing off his helmet, etc...
Yes, I think he'll sing like a canary, mainly because he seems mentally very immature. But it would actually be a very normal human defense mechanism, when you're under attack.
First deny it. Then when the pressure increases even more, acknowledge it. Then project blame onto others. When that all fails miserably too, commence with implicating others in the deed to try and even out or lessen the penalty applied to you.
So when they say "this will not end well", this is what they mean. One lie turns into 2 into 4 into 16 into 256 and pretty soon nobody knows which way is freaking up - least of all the guy at the center of the lies and wrong-doing who doesn't know who his friends and enemies are nor what he last told them.
But you're right, there's a lot of people who have already invested plenty in TP and don't want him to screw this up any further, at least before the NFL payday. Which will probably prove to be nowhere close to what they were hoping for, but that's another story.
Takes a whole lot of character to handle a situation like this well... and there really aren't that many kids his age who have it. What he's done in the past three years give us no reason to believe that he'll suddenly handle this with humility, honesty and integrity.
But the world is all over him right now, and the best thing he can do is reach out for help, and otherwise keep his mouth quiet.
I can't start a new thread, but the talk of Pryor in the Supplemental Draft made me think about his future as an NFL player. He's about 1/3 as good as Vince Young was and we all know how that turned out (at least thusfar). I think his only chance in the NFL is if he makes a 100% committment to playing tight end or wide out - and I have no idea if he can catch, run routes and block.
And I'd be shocked in an NFL team took him in the supp draft because I think they have to give up a pick in the next draft. I think we all know how valuable NFL draft picks are, even in the lower rounds.
Didn't Cam Newton just go #1 in the draft? Teams don't learn on these things, someone will take him because of his upside. Highly athletic QBs with questionable passing ability are the types of players that a coach thinks they can turn into a superstar with just the "right" coaching. Even someone with rather questionable character, people will take a risk on. Mallett was picked, and actually went to a really good spot for him to get his attitude turned around.
that at some point in the near future, some radio station will have a '#2' jersey burning party near campus. Thousands will attend.
As we all recall, TP and co were suspended 5 games for their role in Tatgate. These suspensions were given out before the bowl game last season against Arkansas, but the players were allowed to play in the bowl game based upon their promise that they would return this season, sit out their 5 games, and not try to avoid their punishment. They all agreed to this, and they got to play, and they beat Arkansas.
Despite the fact that they agreed to sit out the 5 games in the 2011 season, a lot of people felt that this was preferential treatment of the highest caliber. If TP (or any of his accomplices) were to go into the supplemental draft, that would mean that they were allowed to flaunt the NCAA rules and play in the bowl game, and suffer no punishment whatsoever.
It seems that since OSU is facing a lengthy series of investigations to come, that the last thing they need is for the NCAA to find new things to be mad at them about, and I'd have to think that they'd be pretty mad if those players jumped ship without facing their suspensions. Two things that gave the NCAA a real black eye in the court of public opinion last season were their treatment of Cam Newton, and their treatment of the Tat 5.
You have to think that if they could do it over, the NCAA might have made different decisions regarding those two issues. The reason that this becomes interesting is that they are going to get the opportunity to make a different decision as regards OSU. The NCAA went out on a limb for OSU, and got abuse for it. It turns out that the OSU players involved may further burn them. You'd have to think that the NCAA will take this into account when they are making their decisions as to subsequent OSU run-ins.
You've gotta love the fact that the buckeye nation is turning on him while he is being investigated and is still in a position (given what he probably knows) to do a lot more damage to the program.
They might be able to expect that Tressel will fall silently on the sword, but I doubt TP is going to respond well to feeling betrayed.