Practice video of JJ McCarthy and AJ Henning
Thanks for posting. It will be interesting to witness his development once he lands on campus. I can't wait for the season to start, assuming it does on time. We need SPORTS!
Can't wait to see the young man in the Big House.
Just give us the next four National Championship trophies now and save the unnecessary hassle.
That kid's making NFL throws on those deep outs across the field. He's got an arm.
Yes he is. And man is AJ quick. Both of those guys are elite players. I would not be surprised to see JJ come in and start in his redshirt freshman season.
As far as arm strength, I'm sure Shane Morris and Joe Milton could do the same. Doesn't mean that translates to being a great QB. I hope JJ is, but Shane Morris was also a 5 star.
Morris had a laser arm with poor accuracy in high school. He had one go to throw, a laser. McCarthy has a 67% completion rate in high school. His skills in his evaluation look like this: (his worst skill is size and at this point he is just under 6’3” and is almost up to 200 pounds).
Morris had a career completion percentage of 55% which falls in line pretty well with his high school numbers. Accuracy is a very hard thing to fix. Morris and Milton are much more alike. Milton has a crazy arm, but it’s hard to teach accuracy. McCarthy is on the other end of that his accuracy is one of his biggest strengths and he is extremely accurate. To show you Morris skills evaluation coming out of high school to compare, this is it.
Pretty simple.
Arm Strength
- Milton
- Morris
- McCarthy
Accuracy
- McCarthy
- Morris
- Milton
Milton's arm strength is a notch above what even Morris was. Morris was the more accurate passer between the two. Morris didn't have Harbaugh, Hamilton and McDaniels to improve that accuracy the way Milton does.
If I had to give player comps ignoring what we know about Morris and Milton, I would've told you.
JJ McCarthy - Drew Brees/Russell Wilson (minus Wilson's wheels)
Joe Milton - Josh Allen/Jameis Winston
Shane Morris - Sam Darnold/Josh Rosen (with hopes he'd be Aaron Rodgers - not in terms of one of the best QBs of all time, duh, what I mean is that his accuracy would improve and he could be the perfect blend of accuracy, arm strength and mobility)
JJ will be coming in as the savior for Michigan football. If he fails to live up to expectations, Michigan and the Jim Harbaugh era is completely doomed.
You pretty much sum up the toxic attitude of the MI fan base in 2 sentences..well done.
What'd he say that's wrong?
Hell, lumberg fucked her
/sees football .... cries
His ball sure looks nice...lets hope he can read defenses as well as he can throw! :)
JJ McCarthy has put on a noticeable amount of muscle
Tell him to give Dylan some tips
Haha I was gonna say that like a year ago JJ was looking like Dylan is now, but now he looks almost kinda stocky which is weird given he's 6'2"
Loving this -- thanks for something great to look forward to!
So that’s what accurate passing looks like.
Damn those receivers are tall!
I watched the first video about 10 times before realizing that the video was only 4 seconds long and on loop.
The edibles at Arbors Wellness are terrific.
JJ looks like the real deal. He projects to be Michigan’s best QB since at least Henne and he is mobile. He will be a perfect fit in Gattis system. Just need to keep Gattis around for another 3 years at least.
Henne wasn’t even as good as Shea though. So why would we go back to Henne as our last good QB?
Before this gets negged, check the numbers. Shea tops Henne in completion percentage, yards per attempt, TD/INT ratio, and passer rating. Henne wasn’t bad by any means. Fans loved him for the most part and Shea received a lot of scrutiny. But when you look at just the facts, Henne wasn’t any better than Shea. Shea is statistically one of the best QBs ever to play at Michigan. He was productive and he took care of the ball. Finished his career with the highest career passer rating in school history.
Fair or not, he’ll never get the credit he deserves. It’s unfortunate. But we can stop pretending past QBs were better.
Stats can be misleading. If Henne was playing in this era of college football, he would have set some very high bars. Hey, now maybe Shea can learn a thing or two from him
Not really. Some stats can be, but when you look at things like completion percentage in correlation with yards per attempt and passer rating, those pretty much tell the whole story. Shea attempted longer depth passes and completed a higher percentage of them. At the end of the day, QBs are judged on two things: protecting the football, and production.
Do I wish Shea could have connected on at least a few of those deep balls? Sure. But then we’d be talking about him clearly being the best QB in school history with some more school records to his name . A better deep ball doesn’t make Henne the better QB when Shea has the edge in every other area. Henne at his best was no different than Shea. As fondly as we thought of him, he was nothing more than a good QB leading a team behind a great running back and a solid defense. To results not any different than we’re experiencing now.
maybe if henne was allowed to throw on first down during his career (instead of 3rd and long), his numbers would have looked better. refer to his final game for example.
henne >>>>>> shea
So can we say the same for Shea then as well? Michigan threw the ball 38% of the time in Shea’s junior year. He had a total of 325 attempts. The only season Henne had fewer than that was his injury shortened senior year, when he only played 10 games (averaged 27.8 attempts per game, putting him on pace for 361 had he played a full 13 game schedule). Henne also had two seasons with more attempts than Shea’s single season high of 381.
Or does that argument only work when you want to make stuff up?
@JonnyHintz...genuine question - did you watch Henne play during the period he was QB at Michigan? I’d love to know if you witnessed the careers of both guys personally, or if you’re only looking at stats. I’m 44 and this isn’t some sort of old school vs. new school, thing, but I’m truly curious as to how you could arrive at the conclusion that Shea was better than nearly everyone in the record books at U of M because of his passer rating and YPA.
Based on stats the only guys better than Shea‘s career 144.2 rating were Grbac (148.1), Harbaugh (145.6), and Todd Collins (145).
Do you honestly believe that “QBs are judged on 2 things: Protecting the football, and production.” Not wins? Not an ability to make those around them better? Not an ability to create plays when there’s nothing there?
Rick Leach was before my time, so I don’t feel like I am qualified to personally have an opinion on where he ranks in history at U of M, but from the people that saw him play on down through current times, consensus is, Leach was one of the best ever at the school. But he only had a 129.7 rating.
I feel bad for Patterson and all the abuse he takes from most fans, but if you honestly believe that he was better than Brady, Denard, Navarre, Wangler, Griese, and other legendary guys because of two statistical categories, I can’t comprehend it.
Shea gets abused and it’s great you’re trying to point out that stats show he performed much better than his reputation, but I can’t ever remember watching Henne play and being in disbelief that he could throw 10 feet over the head of a wide open receiver, or manage to skip the ball to a RB five feet away on a screen pass.
Stats are great, but I think for nearly anyone that has watched Michigan football for more than 10-15 years there’s no way they think Shea is anywhere near the top of the best QBs ever at Michigan because he has good stats in 2 categories.
The list of guys you’d pick over Patterson if you needed to win a championship or rivalry game (the real stats that matter) is at least 10 options before anyone could reasonably say it’s Shea they want leading the team over Henne, Grbac, Dennis Franklin, Brady, etc, etc.
So if you’re willing to share, would really love to know how long you’ve been watching Michigan and what guys (if any) you’d put in front of him based on stats or whatever critical attributes you think matter most?
I must have missed those plays when Henne threw balls way over Braylon’s head or skipped it off the ground. He also didn’t let Braylon run wide open and scramble out of a clean pocket for -3 to 3 yards. Different game these days. Henne was better. Sorry.
Yet again, Henne had a lower yards per attempt and lower completion percentage. So clearly you DID miss those plays.
Shea received a lot of criticism. Some fair, some not. Henne was not any better. Better in some areas, worse in others. But overall they are on the same level, and Shea being more productive gives him the edge.
Let's compare just the last two years of Henne versus Shea's two seasons at Michigan.
Henne was a 60% passer and averaged about 7.3 yards per attempt. He had 39 TDs to 17 INTs.
Shea was a 64.6% passer as a junior and 56.2% as a senior. He averaged 8 yards per attempt both seasons. Shea had 45 TDs to 15 INTs.
So I think JonnyHintz is right. The problem is the 56% as a senior. That recent history is muddying Shea's legacy.
But QBs don't just sit back and pass the ball. Henne was a fairly immobile QB. In his last two years, he lost 203 yards rushing. In two years at Michigan, Shea gained 323 yards. That's a difference of 526 yards. That's not huge, but it is significant (~20 yards per game or 2 first downs.) Again, the problem with Shea is that he gained 273 yards as a junior but only 50 as a senior.
Henne’s senior year was 58% completion. Why is the recent history of Henne not muddying his legacy the same way Shea’s is?
At the end of the day, fans liked Henne. For whatever reasons, many fans hold a level of contempt for Shea. That bias gives a more favorable view of Henne’s time here and makes Shea’s flaws more magnified. But looking at it all objectively, Henne wasn't any better than Shea.
Hey, I’m agreeing with you!
shea probably better than rick leach too, right?
When Shea doesn’t remain rostered for more than 2 years in the NFL and Henne still is you’ll realize how incredibly dumb this take is.
Oh man. I totally forgot that sticking on an NFL roster is indicative of how good of a college QB you were. Can someone let Tim Tebow know?
Chad Henne is still in the NFL
Being in the NFL has nothing to do with how good of a college QB you were. Lots of top college QBs flamed out of the NFL.
JJ looks like the real deal. He projects to be Michigan’s best QB since at least Henne and he is mobile. He will be a perfect fit in Gattis system.
If you take your comment but change "JJ" to Shea it reads 100% like a comment from last offseason.
Sam Webb feels that McCarthy is probably the best QB talent that Harbaugh has recruited at UM.
He also gut feeled that USC transfer TJ Daniels would be very interested in UM as a destination. In Webb's opinion the only way you could bring him in is if it didn't scare off McCarthy or both of Milton and McCaffery.
Forget the transfer. Let's run with McCaffrey, Milton and McCarthy. You can't mess with the three M's. It's a perfect recipe.
EDIT: Forgot the last M -- McNamara. That's four M's. What are the odds of every QB in your room having the same first letter in their last names? Intentional?
I haven't seen any smoke of communication from UM to Daniels so it probably won't happen, but who knows.
I do think that the one of Milton/McCaffrey is likely to transfer out if unable to secure the starting role.
Huh? Am I missing someone? Besides Shea (transfer) and McCaffery/Milton (mid-low 4*s), who has JH recruited? Thanks, Mr. Captain Obvious Webb. As you can tell from my tone, I've become somewhat disenchanted with Sam. Not a lot of new info that others don''t have, kisses the butts of recruits/fathers (see earlier post on Weber/ + Christopher), only to get used/played at the end. His radio show has become a string of time-wasting advertisements and teasers to the 247 website.
Peters was a Harbaugh recruit.
Peters, Rudock, McNamara, Villari and Gentry... so basically you’re forgetting over half of the QBs he’s recruited here.
Hard to glean too much from videos like this, but man does AJ Henning look FAST.
We need to hold on to JJ at ALL COSTS. Literally pay the kid if necessary. He is the type of elite QB talent that can push us over the top
I can’t think of many long time top QB commits that left in in the end.