Possible NIL Compromise
What's stopping us from opening up our internal NIL portal, Valiant Management services, etc. to players once they have committed? I'm assuming right now these all kick in after they enroll, but this seems like a potential compromise that would not violate the spirit of what we're trying to do. Am I missing something?
What can we do to stop these posts?
We can start by placing these in businesses around Ann Arbor... Just add a label, "NIL money for U of M football"
I’ll slightly modify your recommendation.
The board can creat a NIL jar (like a swear jar). Every time someone creates a thread about NIL, the put 100 of their own MGoPoints into the jar. These points are then distributed to recruits instead of money. What more could a recruit want?
MGoPoints > $
So, is that like an NFT, or something?
Asking for a friend....
I like it. Going the “My Blue Heaven” route
Don't be ridiculous, nobody carries coins around and most people pay with a credit card. What businesses should do is start one of those programs where at checkout the customer gets a chance to round up their bill or donate a few bucks.
Don't underestimate the power of the piggy bank. Cleared $110 from mine last time.
The SEC will have that within 3 years if no major NIL changes are made.
Maybe open up the nil to mgoposters and pay these individuals not to post?
Go back in time, have Harbaugh not flirt with the Vikings, and see what U-M's recruiting class would look like in that alternate universe.
In statistical parlance, a test-and-control experiment.
I honestly believe Michigan's "terrible" (there's a reason for the air quotes, is it really that bad anyway?) recruiting class is being driven by that as much as anything NIL related.
Get more commits?
Like, for example, 4* QB Chris Parson from Ravenwood HS (TN), who just decommitted from FSU and is now the highest ranked uncommitted QB in this year's class...
Donate?
Well, define "us." The people whose jobs are at stake for an error are probably cautious. The people with money can sponser a player's NIL stuff.
I have the feeling that you and I aren't in this "us"
But if a lot of us chipped in $20 a piece every year, we could raise, what, at least $100K/year! Is that enough? /s
Lol NIL! Whew!
What's stopping us? Michigan law. High schoolers are not allowed to sign NIL deals in Michigan, and we're not going to back-door it like other universities.
Who is enforcing this law? As far as I can see, no one is.
I’m pretty sure that’s what the coaching staff thought before Stretchgate as well.
The NCAA is not doing shit.
I am pretty certain elected officials don’t want to be seen as adversaries to competitive athletic programs.
How did Will Johnson get his under the radar ?
He didn't sign any deals til he finished competing in HS sports. I think he worked on preparing for that moment though by developing some relationships and determining his brand strategy.
Wouldn't that only prevent us from doing so for athletes who are in high school in Michigan? (And all other states with similar rules)
Ok. If the state law is really what's stopping Michigan from having a recruiting class like Notre Dame or Ohio State then the AD should lobby the state to change the law. I'm sure that there would be bipartisan support to help our instate universities. People act like there are just all of these roadblocks when the real problem is the University of Michigan creating hoops to jump through.
State law is not a roadblock if you want to do business the right way? I am confused why you acknowledge that as a problem, yet dismiss it as a mere UM problem. UM is just not going to go against that. Private parties can but UM will not. I don't know how easy it is to change that law given the political environment today.
The "right way" is giving athletes who have dedicated their whole lives to their sport a piece of the pie. It doesn't matter whether you are an incoming freshman or a senior. This idea that you have to earn that money and thus it should not be given to incoming players will hurt UM recruiting and hurts the incoming players by denying them NIL deals. Ann Arbor has a state rep and a state senator. Why hasn't Warde or Harbaugh reached out about the state law if it is hurting the university?
Wait a minute. Someone had the bright idea to create the law. Yet, Warde and Harbaugh has to find a way to change this law? What about all those advocates for students? What about the politicians themselves? I am not against students getting money, mind you. I am just saying that this seems like a piling on Warde and Harbaugh. This is not just a UM problem. All universities and high school students have this problem.
Please I'm begging you. His negativity comes naturally.
Please "never" argue with a Goblin. One search and you'll find nothing but negativity. Not one congrats on any,"Hello" post. He is as negative as they come. And until he changes his ways, I'll continue to call it out. GO BLUE
There he is. Controversy always brings out the best in some.
This is closer to what Miami is doing. The negotiation is done through back channels before the commitment and is more formalized post-commitment, to help dispel that the NIL was a recruiting inducement.
So no, we're not gonna do what you describe.
But the commitment means nothing really. As long as they’re in high school it probably violates the law but I’m not 100% on that. My guess is it could start upon enrollment, and possibly after high school graduation.
also a verbal agreement is basically no agreement.
Former Miami resident of several years here. I'm also married to a grad of the "U."
Free advice to live by - if Miami (YTM) is doing it, either don't do it or get a good lawyer.
Carry on.
You laugh, but if we wake up tomorrow and it’s 1975 again, Michigan will be WAY ahead of the curve.
Like the movie “Idiocracy”?
"Nil" literally means "nothing," "non-existent." Same root for nihilistic.
The people who came up with Name, Image, Likeness (NIL)—instead of Likeness, Image, Name (LIN), for instance, or Name, Likeness, Image (NLI)—have no poetry in their soul.
Or else NIL is an enormous self-troll.
That's heavy, Ogre.
So your proposal is to give high-value targets millions of dollars to do nothing more than say that they will come play ball here? Nothing could possibly go wrong with that. Nothing.
Najee says 'Hi, we cool...'
then what happens when they de-commit and go to OSU instead?
Message board poster has hawt take on solving the NIL crisis. News at 11.
Once again we see the gentleman with the repetitive rod and the expired equine. Forsooth.
One of these days we're going to crack this NIL conundrum and it's going to be because of the diligent work of posters who posted stuff like "we should do something".
That's it! Nothing gets things done better than saying we should do something.
I wish they'd limit these,"same" posts. All day long Goblins regurgitating the same ole crap.
I think I've figured it out!!! Thad said he didn't know Maizen!!! Maybe because, "Thadmattashobnob is actually Maizen's doppelgänger!"
Man you guys are brutal. The thought occurred to me when I was listening to the Roundtable, where they talk about NIL every week. Sorry to distract from all of the mid-July sports news.
I think the problem is that a lot of commenters have had this exact conversation before - see any of the dozens of previous boards posts about this or any of the threads attached to the Roundtable front-page posts. Think of all the comments as the equivalent of "asked and answered" objections.
And no, there's not a lot of other UM sports news, but nobody wants to reread and regurgitate the same thing over and over.