PLZ Stop the "Tate is too short"

I'm pretty sure Troy Smith, Heisman winner, is only 5'11". It would be ideal if Forcier was taller but I don't think his height means he can't be an excellent player.

I don't get it either,everybody can find tall QBs, short QBs,fat QBs(J-LO),QBs that don cement shoes,QBs that can run,and QBs that are just gamers(Tate)to prove their points. The kid was only a freshman,he is going to be something special. 2010 a healthy Tate will show some folks that size don't matter.

Tate is short...Until he stands next too Odoms and then he looks like Paul Bunyan.

But a few questions ... 1) You're saying 40% of fans are haters who call Tate too short? I haven't seen a single post like that in a long time, aside from yours. 2) You say the only argument against Tate is his height. So you're not even open to discussing whether Tate could do a better job of passing from the pocket, or holding onto the football?

little hands=fumbles

It appears to me you are either just trying to get a reaction from people on this thread or you are terribly misinformed. My first clue is that you say that "Tate is short and that he plays short". After saying that SHORT (no pun intended) snide comment, you then say "next question" which is pretty incendiary, not to mention that it just makes you sound kinda silly. My first response to your comment is that Tate Forcier isn't that short. Period. He isn't very tall either, but he certainly isn't unusually short. He is listed at 6'1" which means he is really around 6' like Pat White, and at least an inch taller than Verne TROYer SMITH, but I digress. Comparitively, Chad Henne was listed as 6'2" when he was here and probably was only an inch or so taller than Forcier. Henne wasn't terribly tall but the guy is an NFL starter in his second year, and isn't doing too bad so I'm not sure that Tate's height alone will stop him from being in the league. Wait...it gets better. Secondly, you also said that Tate Forcier plays short. Okay thats fine...I suppose some guys play tall, some guys play short. If you want to hypothesize that then I suppose it has enough validity to debate. Your evidence of this is the fact that he scrambles to throw means he can't see his second level of receivers, so unless he scrambles he struggles to see the whole field. I'm pretty sure that isn't conclusive evidence that he can't see. There are other factors that could cause 'happy feet'. It could be for one of these reasons A) He is young/inexperienced, and although he can physically see the second level he can't mentally process the speed of the college game as well as he could if he were a soph/jr/sr. B) It's a bad habit he picked up from High School because it worked, and it worked because...? C) It cuts the field in half and makes reads/decisions easier. It also enables him to use his assets like scrambling and throwing on the run accurately. Also, helping a freshman with the learning curve. D) He didn't have great protection, nor did he have a consistent running threat other than himself which places tremendous pressure on a young kid. E) All of the above and then some. I don't know that you can conclusively say that he plays short, nor that he is short. Fact is Tate is taller than Brees and may get taller. Anyway, there is also more to playing short than height or 'vision', it is also about throwing mechanics which Forcier clearly has. His mechanics have been called things ranging from excellent to nearly flawless. His release is also as quick as they come. there aren't a lot of guys his age that can get rid of the ball as quickly and accurately, sometimes even when he is being hit. Also, you say his arm is weak? Uggggghhh, seriously? Did you watch the games against Illinois and Purdue where he made multiple tremendous throws downfield. Did you see the several throws he made in the fourth quarter versus Michigan State. Western Michigan he threw the ball 50 yards with great touch to Hemingway. Granted he didn't do this consistently game in and game out and he was often hot and cold. The difference in those games was he had time to throw and receivers got open downfield which are the ingredients to throwing deep. He had plenty of zip on his balls versus Notre Dame and Indiana. Plus, throwing on the run shortens throws which is why NFL teams use rollout passing/bootlegs all the time. His second level passing and velocity may be inferior to Henne at the same age...but not by much! He has a better deep ball in my opinion and from what I see watching him. Calling him inaccurate is not only laughable, it's disgusting. He completed 59 % of his throws as a true freshman, and didn't have have Braylon Edwards, Jason Avant and Steve Breaston catching his passes. Nor did he have Mike Hart to hand off to. He also passed for a 150 rating or above in three of the last four games, and his 200 yards passing on the Buckeyes was only accomplished by a couple of other QBS in 2009. Masoli, Clark, Barkely and Tolzien all failed to accomplish this. His throws to Matthews and Roundtree against Ohio State were risky but a couple of them were incredibly accurate. His major struggles were against Iowa at kinnick, versus Penn State when almost his entire supporting cast went down (Molk, Minor and Odoms), and in the fourth quarter against Ohio State when he was forcing balls overconfidently and trying to make too much happen. The prognosis is that Forcier did great given his situation. Despite some flaws in his game, he has a chance to make tremendous strides this off-season and be even more productive and efficient next season. He has virtually everyone important back with the exception of Minor who has been banged up. Roundtree will also become the go to guy, which is just a WOW combo IMO. This kid is much better than you have painted him with your remarks.