Football has begun for the weekend, USF comes to Heinz Field for Pitt's (possibly) last Big East opener.
Wine for me tonight, maybe a Kalamazoo Stout or a Guinness Foreign Extra in a bit. What's everyone else drinking/thinking of tonight?
It's on espn3.com, for whom it may concern.
Should have posted where it was, derp. It's national on ESPN, isn't it? I have it here in Indiana on standard ESPN.
...as soon as I can talk my 5 y ear-old into believing that "Dora The Explorer" doesn't look any better in high-definition, but how football does.
lolwut. Looked like he just threw the ball away.
I was drunk and added a few too many zeroes on this game - Let's go PITT
Yuengling beer is available in Ohio October 3rd. Anyone know where to get it? Toledo maybe (as I live in MI.)
I actually can't believe that you still can't get it in Ohio. It seems like it's virtually everywhere (at least where I've been and had the opportunity to be in a store that sells beer) now (and has been for the last couple of years). Weird...
across from Franklin Park (Sorry, Westfield), has it. If not, Andersons will order you anything you want.
wow I won money on this game ($10)!
I see Tony Gibson on Pittsburgh's sideline and they are turning it over...coincidence? I think not.
Nobody watching the Mich/Minn game from 03 on BTN? Currently enjoying my last Oberon I brought back to TX after the Mich/ND game
Wow...Pitt is bad. I wont even comment on their secondary either. They are getting whooped up front already.
Sunseri might be one of the worst returning starters I have ever seen.
This is exactly what I thoughtt watching him during the Pitt-Notre Dame game. Sunseri is awful.
Eh... he was going to get every benefit of the doubt, being a Pitt legacy, and all. Speaking off, though, it is interesting (at least to me) that Vinnie Sunseri decided to follow his dad to Alabama instead of following in his dad's footsteps at Pitt...
Did Pitt allot a large portion of the tickets to empty seats? Most of them appear to have shown up.
Heinz is decently filled, probably more than average. A 2-2 Pitt team will not sell out at Heinz Field. It's a little like UCLA playing in the Rose Bowl as a 2-2 team.
they got no hope of ever filling it. Read over on EDSBS that they've had 6(!) sellouts in the 11 years they've been at Heinz.
First of all, they moved into Heinz in 2001, not 2000, and second, they were damn close to selling the entire allottment for 2010 before Pitt imploded last season.
Why did they move to Heinz, anyway? What happened to their old stadium?
Before my time (I never followed Pitt before 2007 [enrolled in 2008]) but my understanding was that Pitt Stadium was in need of more rennovation dollars than they felt they could spend with the offer on the table from Heinz Field/ Steelers. I know there are a couple people on the board who can answer better than me, but that's what I've always heard.
Huh. For some reason I thought you were a Ford School kid.
I transferred from Pitt to SPEA at IU, which is similar to Ford at M. My degree will be a bit different than a student from the Ford School, but probably not different enough to mean different jobs/grad school options.
Ford awards BA degrees in Public Policy, SPEA awards BS degrees in Public Affairs with a concentration (mine is Policy Analysis). I doubt anyone cares, but that's the difference on the ground level.
SPEA is unquestionably top notch. Are you planning to test the employment market now, or enroll in grad school?
Option C for me, I'm applying to USMC Officer Candidate School, hopefully to be commissioned as a Marine Officer in about a year (scary, very scary). Are you at the Ford School, or an alum? That's cool that there's actually someone who shares policy analysis as an interest, very few people (even at school) like it enough to specialize in it.
I'm applying to the Ford School (MPP) this winter. It's a bit of a reach academically, but I'll know soon enough. I knew you had a public policy/affairs background, so I've been reading your posts more intently than others. MGoBlog is definitely the place to find people interested in obscure brands of nerdery.
Good luck to you, I know the Ford School is one of the best anywhere, so it's a hell of an honor to be accepted, especially as a grad student. MGoBlog is definitely a place to find people interested in nerdery, but now I wish I was Elinor Ostrom or something so I could actually help MGoUsers.
Yeah, the long and short of it is that Pitt had the opportunity to move to Heinz Field and jumped all over it. Mainly because Pitt Stadium was going to need massive renovations in the near future and the campus was running out of space in Oakland. The administration saw a great opportunity to move the football team into a brand new facility and then redevelop the land for other student purposes without having to expend the money to buy the land necessary to expand the campus to make those same additions. Really, no matter which way you want to cut it, it was a financial decision.
It's actually kind of interesting that there isn't a whole lot of "history" written on this subject. A little bit of Google searching did turn up this gem from the Pitt administration trying to "sell" the decision: http://www.news.pitt.edu/news/frequently-asked-questions-about-universit...
Sounds like it was similar to Minnesota's situation when they moved to the Metrodome. It seems like these shared college-NFL arrangements don't work out often. I wonder if Pitt fans would agree, in retrospect, that the move "obviously strengthened the football program" and "made Pitt 's traditions better" as the page claims.
Yeah, I thought that was a complete propaganda line, myself. It don't think this move was ever overly popular with students, fans, players, alumni or anyone not named Petersen or Nordenberg.
Actually, they built the basketball arena on the land where the football stadium was. There were huge issues with traffic and parking that were creating issues in Oakland (part of Pittsburgh where Pitt is) that were causing problems for the university and the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (now the largest employer in town and a cash cow for the university).
I personally believe the athletic department made a choice at that point that going "all-in" on basketball was the right move and football was a losing battle. It was a great on-campus stadium in an urban environment. As someone who watched games there as a kid, I was very sad when it was demolished and replaced with a cookie cutter, boring basketball arena. This was a football stadium with a great deal of history that was demolished without a second thought. I guess this is what happens when your college is in a pro sports city.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at with "other student purposes". I didn't want to just say the Pete because they did build more than just the Pete there, but yeah, the main reason was that they needed the land to build the Pete and the only other option wasn't really feasible.
Just dropped a basketball arena (albeit a very nice one) into the footprint of Pitt Stadium. No real adds to parking or space (i.e. no other buldings on the site). If it had been an arena + building +2500 parking spaces, it would have been a win; as it is, more of a draw.
"First of all, they moved into Heinz in 2001, not 2000,"
Well, that is true, but the last season for Pitt Stadium was 1999. Pitt played the 2000 season in Three Rivers.
1) If 2001 is their first year there, they're in their 11th year of playing there, no?
2) They can tell me 65,050 bought tickets for the ND game, but I'll be dammed if it looked like there were more than 55k there. And last night was another fantastic showing on national TV.
I just wish their fan base was less apathetic. Would have liked to see Pitt in the Big 10, but that ship seems to have sailed.
Flipping back and forth watching 2003 Mich/Minn. game on BTN. Shockingly they were decent with the Barber/ Maroney tandem with a running QB. I see running Qbs have plagued us for years.
Pitt's offense looks pretty familiar. Yardage eating and TOs included.
I stopped reading after you said this: "I am a Browns fan".
I'd forgotten how awesome this college football hustle is to watch live, even between nominally second-tier teams. (Obviously USF is ranked, beat ND, etc.)
"thats for real" lol, he sounded so white
.....on an interception made after offsides call. Chuckled at that. It somehow set everyone up for roughing the passer.
And recognized by a "major selector" in 11 seasons. Pitt claims nine: 1915, 1916, 1918, 1929, 1931, 1934, 1936, 1937, 1976.
Interesting, Michigan also claims that 1918 title. Yost's men went 5-0 that season, beating Case, Chicago, Syracuse, Michigan Agricultural College (MSU), and OSU. Due to war-related travel restrictions and the great influenza epidemic, games against Camp Custer, Syracuse, Northwestern, Minnesota, and Cornell were canceled.
Interesting stuff indeed. The war element adds other dimensions, obviously.
yeah I looked up pitt's 9 national titles and I found it funny how some people claim national titles.
Michigan has been "awarded" 22. We claim 11
Alabam has been "awarded" 17. They claim 13 of them
MSU has been "awarded" 6. They claim all 6
So next time anyone claims Alabama's 13 or MSU's "6" national championships, just tell them we have 22
Frustrating how kicking fg's is routine for other teams.
Seem likes firing the Wannstache has resulted in a HUGE improvement /s
Oline doesn't move offsides play we saw last year.