mesmerism! presidential assassinations! circuses on fire!
Over under set at 7.5 wins
Another restaurant bowl it is! Ugh.
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7 wins would be disastrous.
7 wins is the minimum Hoke needs to keep his job for another year. I think if Mich doesn't reach 7, he'll be in real trouble. 2015 is the make or break year for Hoke. If he doesn't have the team playing at a high level by then, he likely never will.
I think it's eight. Seven would be four straight years of regression. Gotta post better than we did last season at least, and that's eight wins. Even that's dicey since there's been very few coaches in Michigan history that have had that many crap seasons in a row and stuck around much longer after.
Anything less than 7.82 is an abject failure.
Until the OL actually pushes the DL back for a 4 yd gain then yea that is more than fair. Hoke and his staff have to prove it this year. Simple as that, not like their are expectations of greatness so the pressure should be minimal.
7.5 over/under is a joke. Looks like they took last year's record and set the line a half point up or down. If you could actully bet these odds they would be put out of business by the end of the season.
Vegas sets odds so that half the people will bet each side of the line. There is no way that half the people would take the under.
I'll take the over.
its -140 if you take the over.
Non gambling man here. What's that mean?
I think it's a fair assessment, but I think we can easily outperform it. We have several games that are tossups, if we can improve significantly from last year we can easily sweep those tossups and end up 10-2 or 9-3. If we don't improve all that much it could be a long year.
9-3 and 10-2 predictions are fine and I think we have a real chance at that, but the reality is that 8-4 would be a pretty good season at this stage given our youth and our schedule.
8-4 in Hoke's 4th season wouldn't be pretty good.
if we didn't have RS Senior DG. If Morris were starting 8-4 with a bowl win would be nice. But a RSS QB should equate to more wins
Devin must be more accountable, his inability to provide all of the offense last year was embarrassing.
I don't know, a really young o-line is a pretty good excuse. If they can't run the ball or protect him there's only so much he can do.
Safest bet I've made in a while.
Bowl game is up for grabs.
Wins? We almost had 8 last year with the worst run offense in the country
I will honestly pile on the over at 7.5 call me a homer or whatever i think UM turns a corner this year with improved offensive execution and a senior QB.
is a good bet.
I figure the over/under is 8.5 (regular season) with 9 wins more likely than 8. Are they actually taking bets on this data? [shakes head]
No. They are NOT taking bets on this data.
I'll take the under and a Prozac.
I'm a pessismist, but this is silly. We're winning more than 7 games.
I am pragmatic, but I think the over is a good bet. 8 or 9 wins.
Like I said, I see some tossup games, tossup being less than 60% chance of win either way IMO, but having underrated Maryland and Utah teams come into the Big House makes them wins IMO. Penn State at the Big House in a revenge game I count as a win too. Northwestern is a tossup on the road. IU could be a tough game on the road. ND, MSU, and Ohio State all on the road is very tough, but I think we win 1 of 3 at least. I just see 9-3 or 8-4, I would be very disappointed with 7-5. That would likely mean that either Maryland or Utah beat us at the Big House.
Maryland is under rated, we cannot overlook them, they return their team intact and had some real good road wins last season.
Point of fact, Maryland has the exact same line that we do... 7.5 wins (over -140, under +100)...
Can I find a Vegas book to bet on this?
I'd bet the over. I have us 9-3 so that looks like easy money to me.
If it's under, put on a helmet and go hide in the basement, because it's not going to be pretty around here. Not one bit.
That'd be nice.
Jabrill Peppers will not allow us to go 8-4.
times 1000...Jabril and the "new" defense as well as Nuss will get us to 10 or 11 wins
Over. We have to win the big ten this year. No more excuses.
It has to be over. It better be over...
If you used Sagarin numbers from last year (the most current available) agains the most current numbers from the opponents on this year's schedule, you could probably baseline the season at roughly 9-3 if you assumed for the moment that a positive projected margin of victory meant "win" regardless. Granted, if you actually calculate the projected margins this way (with 2013 numbers, mind you), not all wins are equally likely, but there is something to make you believe that last year's team plus additions and experience (plus maybe a revised scheme) could make 9-3 an achievable baseline.
I didn't totally understand that reference..."achievable baseline". In my mind baseline is the lowest possible likely record, no? And, achievable is more like what is possible within reason. So to me baseline is like 7 wins and achievable is more like 10. I certainly don't picture 9 wins as baseline. That would be pretty optimisitc IMO. I mean when is the last time they beat a ranked team on the road? That automatically gives you 3 losses right off the bat (ND, MSU, OSU). And, PSU and NW won't be gimmies. The fan in me tells me UM can win 3 of those games, but that doesn't mean they will. And, I'm sure they'll drop one game that no one expects them to because well...they always do.
Edit: wrong thread
Staee was at 9.5 and Ohio was at 10.5 FWIW. Those teams are pretty close IMO, State's out of conference trip to Oregon is why they are different.
1 meaningful road game, which is Oregon, while UM and OSU play at EL.
It's conceivable that all three have the same team capability entering 2014 and the schedule alone decides with MSU 2x at home, OSU 1x at home and UM 0X in that mix.
I think we get nine but I still complain and drink like a fool every Saturday. I'm sorry.
Flipping embarrassing. Under 8 wins with this schedule? C'mon man!