landing spot. will be interesting to see how he does.
Our plane is headed to Baton Rouge
TV-feed announcement with DB and Les at halftime of the basketball game?
I didn't see the question mark at the end at first.
Need to slow down and read closer.
I tell you, that friggin' airplane has really become one of the most famous figures associated with the program at this point.
Might also be the only thing faster than Denard sporting the wings on the helmet
In a last ditch effort to keep Les Miles from leaving LSU, Tiger fans jacked the wheels from the UM plane.
At least Michigan Men are smart enough to use The Club, or the we would have a hijackin' on our hands.
in the past month:
(from Michigan Against The World, circa 2007)
I think that what you just said would be deemed more offensive
but not wrong.
Glen Mason's Hot Wife is an ignorant hack who never contributed a thing to society, But since I don't know you, that would be entirely ignorant of me. And possibly wrong. Learn a bit about the principles of logic, fairness and maturity and perhaps that will sink in someday.
If you want to tell others to "learn a bit about the principles of logic," you shouldn't be defending religion. Logic embraces everything religion does not: critical thinking, reason, etc. Religion merely asks people to believe what they're told, regardless of the lack of evidence or proof (and, for the record, a book written over a thousand years ago is neither evidence nor proof).
is full of fun, like a cat playing with a ball of yarn. You being the yarn and people over the centuries being the cat.
Logic embraces everything anti-religionists do not: critical thinking, reason, etc. Anti-Religionists merely ask people to believe what they're told, regardless of the lack of evidence or proof (and, for the record, a guy disparaging book written over thousands of years ago is neither evidence nor proof).
(Just to help you out: It's "books" and it spans more than 2K years and has multiple authors;)
We have bigger things to freak out about than religion. WE DON'T HAVE A COACH.
I think that was the point
phony carnival preacher there is. And lower IQ than on their worst day. Congrats.
responses. My comments above were entirely respectful without being either emotional or being denigrating to any group. Yet those above feel confident calling EVERY person in one particular group "batshit crazy", and when someone points out how incorrect that would be as applied to ANY group, the replies are about getting mad and being even more emotional and sensitive. The lack of self awareness and ignorance inherent in the argument is staggering. I haven't been to a church or religious gathering of any kind in years, but I do know immature uncritical adherence to a school of thought when I read it. A pity you don't.
I find it interesting that athiests think they have a corner on knowledge and widom when their minds and hearts are utterly closed. Like yours.
That you don't have the decency to keep your ridiculous, offensive and prejudiced views to yourself, but rather feel the need to express them in an outrageous way, knowing it would offend people, suggests a pathology on your part.
I have generally liked your posts until now. But from now on, I'll keep these posts in mind when reading whatever else you write.
It is abundantly clear that he was simply trolling for responses via his posts, and you took the bait. He wins.
I expected that you would come to the troll's defense.
And yet, you would deny being a religious bigot!
So much for that.
Now who wins?
You make a good point about people being religious bigots. That is certainly one way to troll, and it is in fact the way that this particular troll is inciting people on the board.
I for one love your strategy of confronting the troll about his or her attacks, and attempting to show him/her the faultiness of his/her reasoning.
I personally would have ignored the troll, rather than becomming offended by his/her's clearly vitrolic and over the top rhetoric (which was no doubt nothing more than the troll attempting to get a rise out of posters, and thusly, the troll crying for attention).
However, I trust that through your continued engagement with the troll, you will no doubt change his/her's mind, ways, and convert him/her into a productive member of the board.
Good luck in your endeavour, and I have full confidence in your success.
I recognize at least some of your sarcasm (the part about changing minds). Assuming the rest is sincere I'm going to do something that I would not have expected to do.
This is a Michigan sports message board. Go be an asshole somewhere else.
I don't have to prove anything, least of all to you. Atheists believe they know there is no God. They cannot prove it, yet they believe it. So much for demanding evidence.
If all you believe is what can be proven you cannot be an atheist. Also, you must not know very much at all, because what has been "proven" is only a tiny fraction of what is. Also, your beliefs must change all the time, because what is "proven" is often disproven. So, one day you believe this, one day you believe that, the next day you believe something completely contrary.
Religious people often struggle with their faith. This is true because they are always seeking the truth.
Atheists do not so struggle, because they think they know it all. The hatred in your voice belies rationality. Your proposed ethic of mocking religiousity is arrogant in the extreme. And your analogy is childish.
Proselytize your hatred of God somewhere else.
Hate of god? lol Unreasonable as usual. Anyway who's going to coach this team? Trying to get it back on topic :)
If you read "marlon"'s post: "marlon" not only hates God, "marlon" hates the very idea of God.
To get back on topic: Jon Gruden. Ithink that they are going to try to hit a "home run" to save the Michigan brand.
BTW, you really think I'm unreasonable?
Not you personally, my man. Actually probably not you at all. I usually find many religious people are unreasonable. Well, people of varying faiths can be unreasonable.
I think Gruden would be great as well. I just hope we dont have to settle for what's left.
All true faith is blind, if something can be seen/proven then its just plain fact, and what power does that have? what would make that special?
Careful now. Non-Religous-types are batshit crazy and we have more that our share on this board. You don't want to offend those crazy fuckers now, do you?
They'll get over that and come to reality sooner or later.
You don't know who's religious on this site and who isn't. To each his own, being respectful is fun, kids!
I'd like to make a motion that this whole sub-thread be expunged from the record.
I'm with you. This wasn't meant to be a religious debate--just a timely photoshop that was floating around on the internet.
Who knew Brian actually had to institute a "no religion" rule as well.
Also, everyone knows that God = Les Miles. Worship him now or rue your petulance for eternity.
This (coaching search and F5) is taking enough time from my real 'religion'. I'm waiting for the First Testament of MGoBlog.
... for that white smoke to begin rising from the Schembechler Hall chimney.
Tomorrow night. Halftime. Huge audience. Brandon equals branding.
I thought the plane belonged to Rogul, a wealthy Michigan Alum and strong supporter of the University of Michigan. He certainly could have let the University use it for the purposes of interviewing potential HC candidates, but he could also be going for a good cajun dinner.
Holy balls!! I would say this is getting surreal, but we're waaaaay beyond that already.
What was the plane doing in Savannah/Hilton Head beforehand???
The theory was they were clearing the hire with Carr who winters in Hilton Head
Wow, it's raining a lot in Baton Rouge...
I work about 45 minutes away from Baton Rouge and the weather is nasty!
MGoPlane... take me with you!
Since you're in the vicinity, please go to the airport, track down whoever got off that plane, where they went, who they're meeting with, and report back. STAT!
You want me to pick up any local delicacies? Turkey neck gumbo? I could bring a whole spread to welcome Les.
If we present Les with a fragel, a chipati, a bibimbop from the now defunct Steve's Lunch, a Georgia Reuben from Zingerman's, some Cottage Inn pizza, and a lifetime supply of free breakfasts at Angelo's, he's in.
anmd they say we can't offer the kinds of perks an NFL owner can offer.
You could just throw all of that on a Blimpy Burger and he'd coach for free.
Would probably taste the same after a 2 hour flight too.
Just turn on a giant fan and waft some of the Angelo's smells down to Baton Rouge. It'll do the trick.
My last decent biminbop was at Steve's in 1986. RIP
Don't go waiving that picture in front of people w/out access to that level of deliciousness, its just unfair.
I would kill for a muffuletta.
Les is in Dallas.
No, he is currently in Baton Rouge but is flying back to Dallas later this week...or at least that's what I heard.
This has gotten so out of control, sources could report that Brandon and Miles are meeting on the space (bitches!) station, and I wouldn't bat an eye.
flight tracker says that's where the mgoplane is headed after the stop in Baton Rouge.
arrange, no doubt.
Why do planes matter here? LSU has confirmed that a meeting will occur. It's not a secret.
Not questioning. Just curious where that was confirmed. Last time I was online (last night) LSU fol;k were vehemently denying.
Do you expect them to ride on scooters to the meeting place?
Yes, and sign a contract in glitter pen!
A real man signs his contracts with a crayon. A blue crayon.
No, he pisses it onto the back of a cocaine-dipped hooker!
Whoa, where'd that come from? Better lay off the Sterno until further notice.
Has this been confirmed? He returned to LA with the team yesterday, and isn't scheduled to speak at the conference until Tuesday, correct? Doesn't mean he's necessarily in Dallas yet.
I coulda sworn I just saw him at the Leo's on Orchard Lake and 14 Mile
Clearly, we're after Les' wife then.
It's just Gary Moeller looking for a little payback.
You know, its amazing that the Moeller's wife story has been around for several years now and never really would be mentioned and now its just everywhere.
How many human organs do they have for us down there?
Ask Gary Moeller's wife.
to do a touch and go fuel-up on it's way to pick up Patterson/Gruden for a press conference, i presume.
\hoping please god please please
Gruden is going to be our HC, while Mullen and Patterson are coming to run the offense and defense. Great day to be a Michigan Wolverine!
I am going to keep repeating this sentence in my head until (and after) we actually announce a coach.
Although this could also be a millionaire jet owner's idea of a really, really great time.
"Hrm, where can I send this plane next? Baton Rouge! MGoBlog is going to EAT THIS UP!"
As he laughs maniacally whilst reading the MGoBoard.
MGoBlog on one monitor, FlightAware on another, winged-helmet phone in hand.
If the next flight plan lists the destination as "GPH (Gary Patterson's House)"
...is the Mosby, Clay County Airport in Missouri. Sheesh, get your facts straight.
They're flying right into a storm!!!!!!!
Kind of like the UM faithful.
I think "symbolic" is the adjective you're looking for.
and deliver LM for the BB game. The jet will be fine in that weather. It's not a C152.
FWIW a veteran poster at Tiger droppings:
Well,I just so happen to work at BR metro and this plane is not the same plane that has been picking up organs at Executive Aviaton.
Take it for what it's worth.
No organ plane, you say? Yahoo (?).
I am confused, what is this organ business everyone is talking about?
There was a plane in Baton Rouge that caused a stir only to have it reported that it was only there picking up human organs either for research, transplant, or because Dave Brandon dines on human pancreas as a delicacy.
with fava beans and a nice chianti.
Sorry, someone had to say it.
It wasn't picking up organs, Planes that do that do not lay over for two hours.
I believe DB is actually building us a new coach from spare body parts.
Or maybe that's what is in the new Domino's recipe? Soylent Pizza!
The Domino's plane is the one that picks up organs.
SOYLENT GREEN IS PEOPLE!!!!!!1
EDIT: Sorry, only 17 minutes too late.
in my backyard. Out of stone, mound, and thicket
And inflatable seat cushions?
of R value does thicket give you? Just curious as I'm insulating my basement.
Out of brawn and steel!
let's put an end to this now!
I just want to point out that just because the plane is flying from place-to-place doesn't necessarily mean DB is always in the plane. They could drop him off in one city while the pilot joyrides or drops other people off in other nearby cities and then picks him up on their way back to ann arbor.
maybe he was never even in the plane to begin with...
Any thought to MSC or any other "guests" being on the plane with DB? Although Miles is not my first choice, if he is the coach we're going after it'd be nice to have all the Ann Arbor players meet with him at the same time.
Obvious explanation. Crawdads are in season. Duh.
You wouldn't think I would have to go into this on a MICHIGAN board, but Lloyd's love of crawdads is legendary. Expect that plane to be headed back to Hilton Head within the hour.
to be the pilots of this plane.
You're right. The big uglies. Game's won in the trenches.
I see they went back to Hilton Head before going to Baton Rouge. Could they have maybe picked up Carr to go meet with Les? I'm just throwing it out there to stir the pot.
The same poster I quoted earlier claims that if the weather isn't bad, they will be able to take photos of who is getting off the plane. Maybe we'll find out.
I simply love the internet. Best series of tubes.
I'm enjoying the ride lol
That's what Moeller's wife said.
Hopefully the weather breaks so your buddy can get a couple of shots.
(I've now jumped on the wagon and become one-of-them - a FlightAware stalker. Help me, DB... you're my only hope.)
I hope we get a picture of Carr and Brandon in Groucho Marx glasses as they step off the plane.
Still no request to talk with Miles per many sources.
Who knows!?!? The only thing we do know, as Brady Hoke's agent said, DB and the Mich Athletics Dept. has done a really good job of keeping the search very quiet. DB is running Fort Schembechler on lockdown.
Most of us would do that job for free as long as those goodies were part of the compensation....
Is it bad for me to wish that some strange electromagnetic occurence revolving around a sequence of numbers not being pushed will crash the plane and strand DB on a remote island for several years where numerous strange unnatural things will happen but in the end they'll all be pointless and have no bearing on the resolution of the plot as a whole..?
Yes it is.
yes very much so that kinda disturbing, let's not be the next Marshal
It was a joke referencing the televesion show Lost.
Got a good laugh outta that. Thanks!
.... and if I cut you for no apparent reason you'll know why
It seems like tigerdroppings.com (LSU's Blog) is practically convinced Les is gone, if he leaves those fans are really gonna regret that they ran him out of town after he won them a NC and a couple conference titles.
Yeah, fanbases that treat their coaches like shit are the worst kind.
From what I can tell on that board, it seems like they are incredibly afraid to lose him. He seems to have a lot of support there (that board).
It's a pretty skitzo board though......only now does the evidence seem to be totally pointing in our direction.
When MGoBoard, mid-coaching search, can call YOUR board schizo...
This is all about name recognition and reasons for those outside Michigan to order the Big Ten Network. Remember that cash cow? Brandon is a businessman and must fund the entire University athletic budget from football. His legacy is at stake, not to mention mediocrity or a return to football greatness. So, forget Hoke. If they wanted him they would already have hired him. Besides, if you were from New York City, a market the network wishes to crack, pr Atlanta, would you pay the premium dollar to watch Hoke rebuild the team? This is the theater, guys. The theater of national football. All of the above names are marquis guys who can not only pack the stadium and sell those luxury boxes in the midst of a recession, but keep the fans interested, immediately attract recruits and rebuild the defense.
Of the four, Miles has the Midwest connection, played and coached at Michigan, and, makes for good television fodder - clock management and his predeliction for grass. I'm betting he's the first choice and they wish they had not ignored him 3 years ago, or we would not be in this mess to begin with. Failing that, Gruden makes for Network subscriptions. Patterson is the defensive minded guy that would satisfy both Bo and Carr supporters - have you seen that defensive record, and he is no namby pamby developer of talent. I put him 3rd. Then Mullen, obviously a charismatic choice.
I believe in DB and fully expect him to sign someone that we can all rally around.
I agree, recent developments seem to cast a much better light on DB, and his efforts on this search. It is hard to discern what really is going on here, but I believe in DB as well.
I'm trying really hard to believe...hope something happens soon to justify it.
I really like your post. You are even more cynical than I am, and have put together quite a sensible and believable scenario. I especailly take comfort in your rationale regarding Hoke. Your point about theater is very well-taken, too. That would make Miles even more deserable to Brandon, because of Miles' high profile.
They don't call him the 'Hat, or "mad hatter," for nothing, but that has given him a higher profile than many coaches who are better than he is. Hiring Miles would guarantee Michigan even more publicity than it already gets. Sometimes it would be for a terrible move that works out great, and sometimes for a terrible move that works out terrible. But it would still be publicity. And, as everybody "knows," there is "no such thing as bad publicity."
I still think this rationale would put Chucky first, because he is the master of generating publicity. But the possibility of Miles seems a lot less irrational to me now than it did before.
I just hope, that by happy accident, the product on the field continues to improve.
is T&M air llc AVON co. considered UM's plane?
Why does this plane never go to Michigan?
Over at the tigerdroppings board there is a guy who claims to work at the airport and will try to get pictures when the plane lands.
I love this board!!
We need to redo the banner with a flightaware map in it or something similar. This craziness can't end soon enough.
Three bogeys at 1 o'clock (see "revised" flight tracker map on p.4 of thread on TigerDropping's board):
Looks like they can't get her down b/c of weather at the airfield. If God really hates us, we'll know soon: the flight will be re-routed to San Diego...
Gary Moeller must be spinning in his grave.
He's still alive.
You don't say...
All signs point toward a Les Miles sighting on the winged plane!
Time for ground operatives to spring into action.
Brandon and Miles were just spotted at the Baton Rouge Applebee's.
Whoever our new coach is, I think he should be introduced by having him parachute out of the Michigan jet onto the block M at the Big House. In fact, DB should make it part of the interview process.
Land on the M you get the job....miss it, tough break sir. And when your chute doesn't open you know we didn't want you anyway.
......of a clandestine meeting between Miles and Brandon on Mars yet?
hope we get Les Miles,I don't think we would lose any players.He runs the spread and the power i.Also we could get alot of the players to reconsider there pledges.GO BLUE!!!
Stars everywhere on lsu's commitment list.
I don't know about that. The majority of his recruits are from La., and likely not going to leave their home state.
Is the plane still in LA? Just curious, not that it says anything.