OT-Yelling at Ref Works
I read this at Five Thirty Eight and I thought it is of interest to this board since our coach is famous for his sideline antics.
Statistics show that refs are more likely to call judgement calls when near the opposing team's sideline. They do serve purpose...
January 16th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^
Made an art form of this.......
Works in both football and basketball!
January 16th, 2017 at 6:33 PM ^
It was crazy!
January 17th, 2017 at 7:28 AM ^
This is definitely an art and most should not even try. First you need to be iconic as a coach. Secondly you must know when to pic your fights. Third you need to know when enough is enough, never argue too long. If they think you are trying to get the crowd after them on a 50/50 call, it can backfire. All the above IMO.
January 17th, 2017 at 10:30 AM ^
This works well for Izzo. The conference has supposedly been calling games tighter for years. This doesn't apply to Izzo's teams. All of the refs are afraid of him. It gets worse when they are at home.
January 16th, 2017 at 7:12 PM ^
Is there enough data to analyze the impact of grabbing testicles on player performance?
January 16th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^
I have a kind of odd and funny story about when that Rage Stripping gif took place live.
When the cameras cut to him before he started to take off his jacket, I not only thought but said out loud "take off your jacket for this". I guess he was on the same page as me.
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January 16th, 2017 at 1:57 PM ^
...just not Ohio refs.
January 16th, 2017 at 1:59 PM ^
True. Because they think it's a technical in basketball therefore it's a penalty in football. Thought process of a Buckeye.
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January 16th, 2017 at 2:18 PM ^
Bucnuts are not smart enough to be refs should be automatic disqualification. Let them hold the Gatorade or something.
January 16th, 2017 at 2:01 PM ^
Meyer yelled and got a call. Harbaugh yelled and got called.
January 16th, 2017 at 3:20 PM ^
You're right. Meyer did get a call. It was from Delaney and the head of the Big Ten refs telling him they were about to royally fuck Michigan in the ass just so OSU can win again.
January 16th, 2017 at 2:03 PM ^
So Izzo doesn't just do this because he's a tiny angry douche bag? Good to know...
January 16th, 2017 at 2:11 PM ^
Izzo didn't read the article, so yes, he does do it because he's a tiny angry douche bag.
January 16th, 2017 at 3:00 PM ^
I think izzo qualifies as a large angry douche bag.
January 16th, 2017 at 4:04 PM ^
An angry little elf.
January 16th, 2017 at 2:04 PM ^
But the REAL question is, what do the statistics show that a guy has got to do to get a butt slap?
January 16th, 2017 at 2:17 PM ^
Home town refs who have money on the game like to butt slap and whisper the fix is in
January 16th, 2017 at 2:14 PM ^
January 16th, 2017 at 3:02 PM ^
True. They may also be consciously biased.
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January 16th, 2017 at 3:13 PM ^
This was the problem. 1 or 2 subconscious calls that have some effect on the game is the 3 point home field advantage (combined with crowd noise). 5-7 conscious choices to make or not make a call in one teams favor is cheating.
January 16th, 2017 at 2:21 PM ^
There has got to be a happy medium between Harbaugh throwing stuff and Jim Caldwell just standing stoically. I love Harbaugh but I'm worried that he is starting to get the Rasheed Wallace treatment where if someone else did what he gets penalized for it wouldn't be a big deal. I mean he's already getting techincals.
January 16th, 2017 at 2:24 PM ^
I'm not worried at all
January 16th, 2017 at 2:54 PM ^
At least he's not yelling at his players I'd rather have a coach defending his team and working the refs than that. Working the refs is part of a Head Coach's job. It should be expected. People like the person below are really the ones to worry about even if he doesn't belong to us:
January 16th, 2017 at 3:26 PM ^
You nailed it, 100% correct. Yelling at grown men (refs) who have screwed over your players is always better than yelling at your players, even if they earned it.
The people I manage respond better when praise is public and critique is done behind closed doors. Harbaugh gets this; "You mad bro" above does not.
Don Brown also gets this with a recent quote I read from him: "critique the performance, not the performer".
We have the best football coaches.
January 16th, 2017 at 3:44 PM ^
And in my opinion he's completely fair and controlled even when he works the refs. He doesn't take it outside the game and understands the refs will make bad calls, the only time he does that is when it's worthy (Columbus 2016). And when he does that he says his thoughts only when asked, keeps his cool, and doesn't go on a yelling rant about it.
People have it so wrong when they say Harbaugh is intense. He is only intense when he needs to be: on the football field. Otherwise he is a very smart, cool, and reasonable man. People who immediately describe him personally as intense, they haven't seen enough of him to get it. Intense coach (within reason), but not a intense person.
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January 16th, 2017 at 3:49 PM ^
Signed in just to upvote you! +1 to you my friend.
January 16th, 2017 at 3:19 PM ^
You new to Michigan football? YouTube a couple guys, Bo Schembechler and Lloyd Carr. You might find them interesting.
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January 16th, 2017 at 4:04 PM ^
Please don't patronize me. Of course other coaches cuss out refs. I'm not sure what I've said makes you think I'm unaware of this.
January 16th, 2017 at 7:11 PM ^
Yeah he never indicated that. Let's be fair here. Although it is true that relative to some coaches Harbaugh is Jim Caldwell.
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January 16th, 2017 at 3:03 PM ^
So does tweeting at recruits.
January 16th, 2017 at 3:04 PM ^
Yelling at refs works most of the time. Yelling at players with a purple face gets you a losing season.
January 16th, 2017 at 3:45 PM ^
Exactly. 100% true.
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January 16th, 2017 at 3:55 PM ^
Generally works for Saban.
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January 16th, 2017 at 3:14 PM ^
refs are human. They don't want to be yelled at. Even more is the 75k+ people at the game as nobody wants to be the guy that everyone hates. It's why make-up calls are such common knowledge that announcers use the term.
January 16th, 2017 at 3:16 PM ^
between throwing clipboards and/or playsheets and getting the calls - (unless they are on you)
January 16th, 2017 at 3:46 PM ^
I heard getting in-state referees is even more effective.
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January 16th, 2017 at 4:09 PM ^
This is true, but having fans of your team ref your game is the most fool-proof approach to getting calls.
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January 16th, 2017 at 4:31 PM ^
Phil Jackson didn't yell, he just whined through the media to get calls ....esp in the post-season.
January 16th, 2017 at 4:43 PM ^
Gene Smith was willing to play ball with the Friday Night Lights approach to B1G football games. In exchange, three refs from the state of Ohio; one fired for incompetence over a decade earlier; one barred from reffing 2006 The Game for conflict of interest reasons; and one ref in the Ohio High School Referees Hall of Fame.
You scratch my back, we'll scratch yours.
January 16th, 2017 at 7:14 PM ^
Ref Works sucks. Zotero 4 lyfe.