If the discussion is who "should" the Tigers pick up, then I think the answer is Anibal Sanchez. However, I have yet to hear his name tossed out there in relation to Detroit.
OT - Who should the Tigers pick up before the deadline?
Dunno about methodology, but those are somewhat surprising results (i.e. Lowe > Jimenez & Kuroda)
You can probably assume a little better than that for Comerica, but maybe not for NL pitchers who have to adjust...
Everytime this topic comes up on sports radio, someone always says something like, "Whatever they do, they can't have another Doyle Alexander for John Smoltz trade. Smoltz is a Hall of Famer and Alexander was out of the majors three years later." They always miss the point. Alexander was never intended to be a long-term guy. He was intended to get the Tigers into the postseason in 1987, and he did, going 9-0 down the stretch. Making the playoffs is very, very difficult, and if you have the chance you have to strike. (And it's not like Smoltz single-handedly would have kept the Tigers afloat during their lost decade. He probably would have bolted as a free agent first chance he got.)
People are using this argument against Derek Lowe now. If he can put them over the top, they've got to try. Prospects are hit or miss. A playoff opportunity won't be there every year. Minnesota's not going to start out in last place every season. Fans are too gunshy. Standing pat with all your prospects and never rolling the dice can turn you into the Pirates.
3 high-level prospects seems reasonable for a legit ace signed to a cheap contract for a few years
Ubaldo is far from a legit ace. He has potential, but outside of the first 2.5 months of last season his numbers dont suggest that he is an ace. HIs walk rates are very alarming.
But lets not forget his numbers are bloated by Coors. He has a 2.28 era and 0.90 whip outside of colorado this year.
He's in his prime and is amongst the league leaders in velocity, despite the dropoff from last year.
He may not be a top 10 starter in the MLB, but he's an ace on the majority of MLB teams.
That is a bit much, especially considering how good a hitter Montero is and the ridiculous upside Banuelos has. Guys who were much safer have gone for less. Montero won't get traded this year unless someone really surprising hits the market. Ubaldo might be worth Banuelos, Betances, and a few mid level prospect.
If we get Ubaldo then there is no chance for Turner to be a Tiger in that future rotation you have.
A left-handed starting pitcher?
His name is Wandy?
- In my head it doesn't rhyme with Randy, but the first syllable is as in magic wand...am I right on this?
and as an astros fan (yes, we exist), I hope it happens. astros need to keep blowing things up before actually rebuilding.
Would be the guy they should key on, a number two starter and a lefty behind Verlander who currently pitches in a definite hitters park who would benefit greatly from pitching at Comerica. Plus, his asking price is likely low enough from Houston so as to not require Tigers to give up Turner and Wandy is 32 so 3-4 more years left at least.
Too bad they gave up Jurrjens. That guy has been a beast this year for the braves
Was great for the Braves in 2009, injury plagued 2010, stud again in 2011.....Would be a nice 2nd starter behind Verlander for sure....
Detroit should go after Kuroda, but it sounds like he's not willing to waive his no-trade clause to an East Coast team.
Inge is a total abomination and needs to be replaced ASAP. Wright's back issues = no thanks for what we'd have to give up to get him. I'd love to get Aramis Ramirez, who is already on fire and has been a second half player his entire career. Don't see that happening though. It's really too bad Peralta doesn't like playing third, because there are some solid SS options available that could help.
Houston is asking way too much for Rodriguez. If their asking price fell, he'd be a decent option.
Jimenez is a pipe dream. New York can afford to trade away top prospects to get guys like him because their resources are so vast. If he goes anywhere, it would likely be to New York.
The Tigers aren't in a horrible position right now. They need to keep Turner and Castellanos though. I feel like anybody else should be expendable because the division is there for the taking....not to mention that they could make a playoff run with another pitching piece + another great second half from Scherzer.
What do you guys think about getting a package deal of Guthrie and Reynolds from the O's? Sure Reynolds strikes out a ton, but his power could be quite valuable to the Tigers, plus you add to the fact that Guthrie could give you solid innings and the back end of the rotation. Maybe not feasible but just a thought.
Please not Ubaldo Jimenez, he had a Cinderella 1st first last year and has been back to normal ever since. I wouldn't give up the farm for him. I like Jeremy Guthrie though. He always put good numbers on a bad team and in a hitter's ballpark. Plus you could probably get him for prospects like Adam Wilk or Duane Below.
Exactly my thoughts. Inge and Raburn are actually pretty cheap to DFA, evven though both are signed for two years.
Kind of chump change, compared to average baseball salaires.
Magglio will end up with reasonable statitstics, but the Tigers would hae been better off not signing him to an extension and letting Dirks, Wells, Boesch, Jackson (and even Raburn) fight among themselves for the 3 starter/resere roles.
Inge is really the major culprit I would get rid of. I have liked his defense, but he is no longer outstanding at defense; he's making Raburnesque errors. He's never been a hitter, but he's really struggling and sticking ot his own counsel.
I don't think Don Kelley should be a starter, but at least he knows his role - talented defender who is scrappy in his at bats. I'll bet he can bunt and do all the little things th at Babe Inge has never felt necessary for him to do.
What I am sick of is this same conversation for the past 6 years, and where has it gotten us? We never make the big move bc we are too affraid to part with prospects, therefore we end up not good enough to even make the playoffs ('06 notwithstanding). They have to either buy or sell, decide, does this team with this core have a legit shot at a title, not playoffs, but title. If yes, then sell Turner (please spare me the 'remember Doyle Alexander' bit). If no, then sell the most marketable pieces of the core and start new (the latter probably means JL and DD are out). If buyers, make it big, no more mid-level busts