OT: USMNT at Guatemala

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USMNT at Guatemala

TV: BeIn Sport & NBC Universo

10pm ET

World Cup Qualifying

USMNT Lineup: 

Howard, Cameron, Gonzalez, Orozco, Castillo, Yedlin, Bradley, Bedoya, Dempsey, Wood

John Brooks sent back to Hertha, Besler suffered a concussion yesterday in training and Fabian Johnson not yet recovered from an injury suffered with Gladbach.

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skurnie

March 25th, 2016 at 10:04 PM ^

So I guess Mix Diskerud is starting...I regret the error. The "Most overrated player the MLS" according to his fellow MLS players in a survey this week.

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superstringer

March 25th, 2016 at 10:24 PM ^

I have been a soccer fan for decades; was a fan of Chicago Sting, that will date me. So someone talk me off the ledge here....

I feel that MLS has destroyed US soccer. Our team is pretty aweful. Hardly any talent to find exciting. Zero players that any good Uefa club would covet. We simply have no depth of Europe-based talent, other than a couple of foreign nationals we converted (eg Brooks, Cameron) and not very good players (eg Yedlin). By comparison, look at the rosters of the 8 clubs that made up the quarter finals of the WC -- their rosters are like 100% players in the top 5-6 Uefa domestic leagues. Americans no longer go there to get training and development; as soon as one gets any kind of name for himself, MLS snatches him up. How are we supposed to get competitive with our guys all on MLS? They need to be in La Liga and Seria A and Bundesliga etc.

As I write this, its 0-2 against a really crappy team. Thanks MLS.



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swan flu

March 25th, 2016 at 10:45 PM ^

Yeah the MLS style of footie is fucking abysmal. I've tried every year to get interested but it's just boot and chase. It's horrible. There is something perverse about us soccer culture, from my humble perspective I think we emphasize results way way too much from an early age. I think the talent is there, from what I've seen from high school club teams and the like, but the coaching needs to improve.

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Pumafb

March 25th, 2016 at 11:34 PM ^

This. Most US youth coaches absolutely emphasize winning over technical and tactical development. It's more or less the US culture. Parents demand results because they "paid good money" for their kid to play on some club team. The coaches give in and throw the best athletes they can find out there and do nothing but play balls over the top and chase them down. As the kids get older, they occasionally run into an elite club (maybe 2-3 of these in a top soccer producing state) and get hammered.

High school soccer is a whole other animal. Coaches have to win or they lose their job. They can't play a possession based game because they are lucky to have 3-4 high level club players on their team. The games become kick ball contests and often a hack fest. My daughter is a keeper on the D2 state runner-up team and it can be painful to watch.



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bacon1431

March 25th, 2016 at 10:51 PM ^

I think destroyed is a strong term. Maybe stunted the development of our current squad. But youth soccer in the states is producing more talent than it ever has before.

I too, wish the guys that were capable of staying in Europe would stay there. No reason for them to come back unless they're not capable of getting playing time in those bigger leagues. Dempsey coming back doesn't bother me too much. He proved himself and wasn't going to get any better in his 30s by staying in Europe. Might as well come home and make more money. But I wish MLS would do away with DPs. They just block the younger guys for a year or two. Generate more interest in the league and bring more money in, but I think the overall development of the league would be fine with emphasizing young Americans



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Knight

March 25th, 2016 at 11:15 PM ^

between classes of talented American players. With Donovan, Dempsey, Howard etc. done or past their prime the current crop of American born players in the 23-30 age range is weak. Cameron and Bradley are decent but can also be brutal to watch at times. There are some exciting talents under the age of 21 based in Europe w/ 17 yr old Christian Pulisic getting minutes with a good Dortmund side, Miazga and Carter-Vickers in England w/ Chelsea and Tottenham, and Zelalem w/ Rangers on loan from Arsenal. Those guys aren't quite ready for full-time run in the senior national team but are close. There are several other American teens in top academies in Europe but obviously they are years away at this point. The 2018 World Cup cycle could be a tough one but 2022 could see the US becoming a more noteworthy side.

Yes, it looks bad now, but there are some positives for the future and to say that MLS is preventing young players from getting development in Europe is completely false. The players who opted for MLS over Europe in recent years were already past the main development stage of their careers, with Jordan Morris being a rare exception.

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bacon1431

March 25th, 2016 at 10:55 PM ^

I am not in the JK Out crowd, but he is making it really hard on himself with his personnel decisions. Guys just out of position far too much. I've defended a few of JKs decisions (like not bringing Benny F back in the fold). But there's no reason to have Orozco in the team when he's not playing for his club. And there's no reason have Diskerud in over Nagbe or Ngyen.



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FreddieMercuryHayes

March 25th, 2016 at 11:00 PM ^

I mean, I like watching the national teams, but my soccer knowledge is really lacking. But damn, even I can see a poorly coached team when I see one. And the last few years except for a single summer a few years ago...man, team has looked disorganized and they don't know what they're doing on a whole. Mental mistakes, poor execution on simple things...poor coaching. But who else is better out there?



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