OT - Tips from traveling to the other side of the world (and why Detroit should host the Olympics)

Submitted by MGoArchive on December 15th, 2022 at 12:15 PM

Recently came back from a trip from Australia / Japan and thought I'd share a few observations & tips for those traveling abroad next year + some insight into Brisbane / Tokyo.

Traveling abroad is made much easier with a smartphone, of course (getting directions via Google Maps, finding places to eat, etc.). While most international airports have places where you can buy a SIM card, you can also sign up for Google Fi (Google's branded cell phone service) and use the dual SIM card capability of your cell phone to have both services active at once, which enables iMessage / texting those back home seamlessly, as if you were still back home. I had Google Fi enabled as the primary cell phone connection with Cellular switching enabled and I had LTE service in Australia/Japan the entire time.

Here's how it works

iPhone 13 and earlier -

1) Physical SIM slot - your normal cell phone provider

2) eSIM slot - Google Fi service

iPhone 14 - 

1) eSIM slot 1 - your normal cell provider

2) eSIM slot 2 - Google Fi

Google Fi costs $70/month and you can cancel it once you get back home. $70 is a bit steep for monthly service, but it is absolutely worth it for the seamless experience - as soon as you step off the plane, it just works; you have data service.

 

Onto Brisbane / Cairns + Tokyo / Kyoto - 

Brisbane - Very cool city, reminded me of LA except a river runs through the whole city. Did the usual tourist-ey things and visited some museums and walked around the city. Brisbane is a decent sized metro - maybe 2 million people and growing. Good mix of things to do, walkability + public transportation. If you want to relax and head to the beach - head down to the Gold Coast, which is about an hour south.

Cairns - a city two hours north of Brisbane via plane (flight between Brisbane and Cairns was $100, pretty cheap). Nice seaside small city where people go to see the Great Barrier reef. Seeing the reef was very cool - incredible seeing just an absolutely massive biological thing with such incredible biodiversity. Snorkeling was fine, didn't feel like doing the whole diving training thing. Swimming in the ocean with such a large structure was surreal - this isn't like swimming in lake Michigan; you have all these things moving around you and there's a lot of water above and below you, along with the reef. Great experience.

Tokyo - probably the most incredible city I've ever visited. Stayed in Akihabara at an AirBnB my first two days - many of the districts in Tokyo are low/mid rise and the alleys for these streets aren't like those in the US - there are places to eat with 8 to 12 seats throughout all of these alleys and the food is amazingly good and cheap. Was shocked at how cheap yet high quality the food was. Spent most of my time visiting the national museums along with sight seeing in Ginza, Shinjuku. Spent the other four days at the Royal Park Hotel in Shimbashi; excellent hotel that had very reasonable rates when I booked in October.

Kyoto - took the bullet train to get to Kyoto; historical city with many shrines/temples. Incredible natural beauty, the city itself is located in a valley surrounded by mountains. Had the best meal of my trip here, I have the card of the restaurant I went to, but it's my stranded luggage back in Toronto (Air Canada sucks btw, more on that later). I'll comment later to add the restaurant name.

Last part about why Detroit should hold the Olympics (Brisbane will have the 2032 Summer Olympics) - Brisbane is a very nice city with a tropical climate, and continues to build up in density. While Brisbane may have the train based public transportation Detroit lacks, their overall ability to move people with their trains still isn't as good as the highway infrastructure we have here. By the time the US is eligible for another summer Olympics cycle (20 years after the 2028 Olympics in LA), so sometime in the 2040s, Detroit could host the Olympics. Why?

1) By the 2040s, we'll have autonomous driving and will be able to repurpose at least one highway lane to vehicles with L4/L5 capabilities. VANs/larger shuttles can use these dedicated L4/L5 lanes, obfuscating the need to rip up highways and put down rail track.

2) Detroit in July/August is pretty nice.

3) Texas is too hot. Big cities like Chicago/New York are more trouble than they are worth with respect to the congestion and the political contention of diverting public resources for investments in Olympic related infrastructure.

4) DTW is a very solid airport.

Go Blue!

drjaws

December 15th, 2022 at 12:19 PM ^

been to the EU a bunch and jet lag sucks, Brussels is fun, Oktoberfest is more fun, Amsterdam is the funnest. Frankfurt is OK, and Austria is gorgeous.

and they have beer in vending machines.

I'mTheStig

December 15th, 2022 at 12:52 PM ^

and they have beer in vending machines.

Japan does too.  You'll be driving in BFE Aomori Prefecture and come across a random streetlight that someone has jerry rigged with an extension cord to power a beer machine.  It's hilarious to be driving for an hour with nothing and sight and then come across a beer machine.

 

Vasav

December 15th, 2022 at 12:39 PM ^

Haha yea the autonomous driving caught me too. The real fix for cities is more busses and bus lanes. Autonomous driving is unproven, over the horizon, doesn't improve traffic, and may require specialty roads that are expensive. Busses are cheap, proven, and effective.

(Trains are good too but busses are cheaper and maybe a better solution when demand is uncertain.)

And the Olympics in Detroit would be freaking cool, I agree it's better in Detroit than a bigger, more crowded  city. Crowded and chaotic cities are awesome for their own thing, but the Olympics can be a real hassle for their average citizens. Atlanta loved hosting once upon a time, so I think Detroit could manage just fine.

MGoArchive

December 15th, 2022 at 1:03 PM ^

I work in automotive and about as bearish on the EV adoption curve (it will take 20 to 30 years, not 10) and autonomous driving (it will be LIDAR based / expensive until proven otherwise / Tesla's camera based FSD implementation is bullshit) but by the 2040s, we should have L4/L5 driving figured out.

MGoArchive

December 15th, 2022 at 4:09 PM ^

I'm not wrong. More people move faster and longer distances via 275, 94, 23, 75, and 696 than what Brisbane public transportation is capable of.
 

Add a dedicated Autonomous / HOV lane (or two) with L4/L5 driving that cruises 80-90 MPH in 25 years and yeah, you're absolutely smoking most public transport.

Squader

December 15th, 2022 at 5:14 PM ^

That's geometrically impossible. Think about it for a few seconds - automated buses in your L4/L5 lanes would smoke individual cars for transport capacity.


Whatever your other thoughts on the pros and cons of different transport options, it's physically impossible for individual 2 ton cages to ever be as space efficient as 50 people on a bus or 1000 people on a subway train. There's nothing about removing the driver that changes this.

Bill Brasky

December 15th, 2022 at 12:24 PM ^

I logged in to upvote "Detroit should host an olympics." Would be great. I remember an article where Detroit came in second to Mexico City I think in the 1950s or 1960s. I can't find the specific article, but this has some details: https://www.hourdetroit.com/community/detroits-failed-bid-to-host-the-1968-olympics/

So close. But the world needs to experience how great Detroit and its people are.

kehnonymous

December 15th, 2022 at 12:53 PM ^

The one cautionary note that I'd sound (and it's not a small one) is that: wouldn't hosting the Olympics be a HUGE net loss financially for Detroit?  It has been for almost every other host city except L.A. in 1984.

Yes, Detroit probably legit needs some of the infrastructure that goes into hosting the Olympics, but the IOC asks for that and then a dozen so facilities that never get used after the Games.

Durham Blue

December 15th, 2022 at 12:25 PM ^

I have also been to Kyoto (and Osaka and Fukuoka) and second your thoughts about it.  Unfortunately I was there for work and didn't get much time to explore but the temples are beautiful and the food is great.  And the bullet trains are awesome.  We took the Fukuoka to Osaka express -- it took 2.5 hours to make the 341 mile trip!  The bullet train was one of the highlights of my trip.

NittanyFan

December 15th, 2022 at 12:28 PM ^

Detroit's a great city, and I promote it often to those who haven't been there.  I don't live there any longer, but I'm proud to be a Michigan native son (I'll be back soon for the holidays).

But the Summer Olympics have become sooooo enormously large that it's outside of Detroit's realm (even if they did a joint bid with say, Windsor).

Los Angeles and Chicago.  I think those are the only 2 USA cities that can viably host them anymore.  Even NYC wouldn't be a good site, IMO.

MGoArchive

December 15th, 2022 at 1:01 PM ^

One other thing - get Air Tags and put them in your luggage / backpack so when your dead beat airline fails to forward your luggage to your connecting flight/airport, you know where it is with certainty.

Hab

December 15th, 2022 at 1:02 PM ^

Detroit has no room to lose the kind of money that goes along with hosting an international sporting event like the World Cup/Olympics.  Thank you, but no thank you.

MGoArchive

December 15th, 2022 at 1:05 PM ^

I feel the Olympics going forward is going to much more scaled down + potentially multi city going forward because of the PR disasters of Greece (2004) and Brazil (2014).

I could see Olympic events being hosted in Ann Arbor, for example. The scale and logistics of the Olympics is going to be different in the future, it has to be.

Vasav

December 15th, 2022 at 2:02 PM ^

I also kinda wonder after the COVID year - why not host it at like the Wide World of Sports at Disneyworld? I'm sure some work would have to be done, but if a site can host more than just once it'd be worth it. If you don't want to host it one place everytime that's fine, maybe have one in a wealthy asian country too and one in a European resort area, and just kinda continually rotate between those 3 locations for 24 years, and afterwards see if more places are interested, can do so in an ethical/humane manner that won't bankrupt their local economies, and make like these sports meccas that host the Olympics every 12 years and would certainly host many other events in the interim.

WindyCityBlue

December 15th, 2022 at 1:04 PM ^

Chicago and Detroit will likely never host an Olympics because those 2 cities have horrible infrastructure to host it.  I remember when Chicago went all in and used every bit of political capital and they got laughed at.  Also, Detroit (and Chicago) are not very safe cities currently.  But then again, Rio had the Olympics so perhaps safety doesn't need much.

 

MGoArchive

December 15th, 2022 at 1:08 PM ^

Fewer Western countries are willing to deal with the IOC's bullshit. The IOC has (fortunately) changed its approach and the size/scale of the Olympics going forward are going to be smaller. The IOC previously made some pretty insane demands. Frankly, most of the people that travel to the Olympics are rich anyway, so the transportation and capacity issue is overblown. The number of tourists that travel to an Olympic site during the month that its being hosted has steadily decreased the last 20 years.

Amazinblu

December 15th, 2022 at 1:21 PM ^

Windy City,

As a fellow resident of Chicago - I think Chicago's message and messenger could have been more effective.

When presenting to the International Olympic Committee - the "front" person Chicago had was Oprah.   When Rio presented to the IOC, they brought in a guy named "Pele", and their message was - South America and Brazil loves sport - and, there had never been an Olympics on the South American continent.

 

WindyCityBlue

December 15th, 2022 at 1:11 PM ^

Also, with regards to traveling overseas with your phone.  I find it easier to just pay for the international plan for your phone.  It's a little more expensive, but the ease is worth it.

I spent almost a year in Japan for work.  Really interesting place.  Tokyo is a bit of a red herring city.  Definitely worth the visit, but there are like 5 more cities that are far better to visit (i.e. Kyoto), but people get "caught" in Tokyo and don't see much outside of it.

Carpetbagger

December 15th, 2022 at 1:24 PM ^

Yep, I have TMobile and paid a few bucks to travel to Europe and $35 on the other phone (was comparing buying service vs pay-as-you-go).

No service issues, although to be frank I try to disconnect from the rest of the world on Vacation. Little data for maps and flagging the stupid credit card company fraud alerts as 'OK'.

 

WindyCityBlue

December 15th, 2022 at 2:11 PM ^

Good point about disconnecting.

The one thing I found super useful about having a phone I could use without issue is the navigation function.  I'm a big fan of renting a car and going on road trips in other countries.  I've done this in much of the EU, Israel, Turkey and Iceland (I couldn't do it in Japan since they drive on other side of the road.  Plus their train system more than suffices).  You can see places you'd never think of visiting, particularly the small quaint towns.  The navigation app works perfectly in all those places.

Go Blue Eyes

December 15th, 2022 at 1:19 PM ^

I have always thought of Brisbane (where my mom was from) as San Diego from 30 or 40 years ago but where the sun rises over the ocean rather than sets.  Quite the beautiful large city.  
 

Try Tasmania.  You will like it.  Also has multiple whisky distilleries with some of the best in the world.  

Don

December 15th, 2022 at 1:29 PM ^

Hosting the Olympics is always a financial boondoggle* and does little to address, let alone fix, the longstanding problems that ail cities like Detroit.

*The only exception was the LA Olympics, whose organizers smartly took advantage of the significant existing sports venue infrastructure that was already in place in LA.

Amazinblu

December 15th, 2022 at 2:30 PM ^

James,

I used to live in DC - and, I know other commenters here live in the DC area.   I'm just thinking of "summer time" heat and humidity.   It would be a challenge for the finest athletes in the world - but, I'm sure they'd figure it out.

At the core is the cost of creating an environment that meets the expectations of the IOC.   It seems like the IOC's perspectives are unrealistic.

And, as a point of reference - I think of the Munich Olympics (which were held in 1972) - and, how the facilities for events and housing - are still in place.   It's the concept of a "multi use" Stadium.  Your example of a new Stadium in the DC area is interesting.   My thought is - they could design it to support all of the track and field events - and, with appropriate foresight and planning - could then "fill in seats" to make it a football stadium after the Olympics were held.

JamesBondHerpesMeds

December 15th, 2022 at 4:35 PM ^

There's certainly been discussion of some kind of multi-use facility on the old RFK grounds -- housing, commercial, and perhaps an athletics stadium (although the Commanders moving back into the city is a big point of contention).

Also, DC summers suck, but a lot of cities that have hosted the olympics aren't exactly paradise in august (Seoul, Barcelona, Atlanta, etc.).

Your point re: the IOC is spot on, though. After seeing the decay in Athens' facilities only six months after the Olympics myself, I kept wondering why anyone would want to host them.

truferblue22

December 15th, 2022 at 3:15 PM ^

Google Fi is the best, and I just returned from Qatar. FWIW, the free international plan is only $65, and when I came back I just switched it back to my $40/mo. plan which includes hotspot too, so you don't have to dump them right away. And Google Fi works great in both Michigan and the Chicago area based on experience. For those wondering they use T-Mobile and US Cellular towers. So wherever those carriers work Google Fi works great. I've not had any issues.