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OT - Syracuse fires assistant coach Fine

A third accuser came forward and Syracuse cut their ties with Fine. All of these scandals and illegal happenings are ruining college sports and are making me sick to my stomach.

Link: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/7288286/bernie-fine-fired-syracuse-amidst-molestation-allegations

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November 27th, 2011 at 8:58 PM | It was the right move. It (Score:1)
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It was the right move. It will be interesting to see how deep this one went.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:04 PM | Awkward. (Score:5 Normal)
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Could have worded that differently.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:04 PM | Responsible Move (Score:2)
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I think Syracuse  did the responsible thing here. Whatever turns out to be the case here, you cannot keep Fine on staff. 

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:05 PM | Fine should be thrown in a (Score:3 Normal)
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Fine should be thrown in a wood chipper and turned into a fine spray of red jello.

 

...What?

Michigan: 903–315–36 (Best in NCAA)
vs Ohio State: 58-44-6
vs Notre Dame: 23-16-1
vs MSU:  68-32-5
vs B1G: 522-197-24
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vs PAC 12: 48-24-1
vs Big 12: 10-5-1<

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:06 PM | It's about fucking (Score:1)
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It's about fucking time.

What an embarassment.  I hope he's prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

The crazy thing is, all of the rumors that have been flying around the Syracuse community for the past week have turned out true.  The rumor of this tape between Laurie Fine and Davis has been going around for a week.  Latest rumor is that when they searched Fine's home yesterday that they found something, rumored child porn.

Embarrassing that something to awful has become associated with my proud university, but I have confidence that through the investigation, any of its reaches into our school will be dealt with swiftly.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:09 PM | His wife was pretty quick to (Score:2 Normal)
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His wife was pretty quick to flip sides on this. Right move, and I agree I hope they throw the book at him.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:12 PM | She's pretty fucked up too. (Score:1)
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She's pretty fucked up too.  Turns out she had an affair with Davis when he was 18 as well?!?

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:18 PM | Just read a couple articles (Score:1)
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Just read a couple articles about it. That was one crazy ass house.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:14 PM | What do you... (Score:1)
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What do you do with Boheim, who came out and called the first two accusers liars and said he was behind Fine and didn't believe it at all. He said something about it being a thousand lies. He comes off looking unsympathetic and delusional now. There could be some real trouble for ol' Jim.

 I've never watched "Rudy" because I can't stand notre dame.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:21 PM | He needs to come out and say (Score:1)
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He needs to come out and say that he backed his friend of 15 years, that he trusted him, and obviously that trust was misplaced.  He needs to sincerely apologize to Davis.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:21 PM | Gotta (Score:1)
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JoePa him. The precedent has been established.

"Better to have died as a small boy than to fumble this football" -- John Heisman

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:13 PM | If Syracuse and Boeheim think (Score:1)
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If Syracuse and Boeheim think they can just fire this guy and everyone will forget about it they got another thing coming. Someone had to know what was going on.

What the fuck is wrong with these sick sons of bitches. It's almost like we should ban childrens camps at colleges and high schools, or at least the overnight/showering portions of them.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:17 PM | Frankly... (Score:2)
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I think the fact that they canned him this early sort of says that they are trying to either "just make it go away" or that it is more pervasive (the knowledge of these allegations, that is) within the athletic department than just Bernie Fine. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:24 PM | In what way would it suggest (Score:1)
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In what way would it suggest trying to make it go away?  Are they supposed to just keep him on a leave of absence after today?  Seriously?

This was a no-brainer.  Nobody expects it to all go away.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:31 PM | That's Not What I Meant (Score:2)
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It is a no-brainer of a firing. Nobody does expect it to go away. Universities, however, as I have observed, tend to act like some corporations and do things like this to look proactive in the hopes it doesn't rain as much hellfire as it will anyway. I would never believe that they honestly expect this to just die....ever really. 

"Funny isn't it, how naughty dentists always make that one fatal mistake."

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:24 PM | Castrate them all. (Score:1)
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Castrate them all.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:19 PM | Syracuse (Score:1)
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My work involves a lot of cases like this, and I sometimes tell my friends some of the stuff I've seen or been working on.  Their response is always that it is only like that were I work.  I have tell them that is just the way the whole world is.  There is way more stuff of this than anyone would ever realize.  Nothing really surprises me anymore.  Either way, it is sad for everyone involved.

Get busy living or get busy dying.

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:23 PM | Boeheim (Score:1)
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The main accuser said in his ESPN interview that Boeheim walked into Fine's hotel room when they were on the road and saw this guy(when he was a kid) in Fine's bed and gave him a "Huh? What are you doing here?" look and moved on. If tue, to call this guy a liar after seeing that, not good Jimbo. 

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:26 PM | Davis later retracted that (Score:1)
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Davis later retracted that when Boeheim came at him by saying (paraphrase) "what would he have known, he never saw us in the same room together".

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November 27th, 2011 at 9:26 PM | Sounds like the right (Score:2)
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Sounds like the right decision.

As far as Boeheim goes, I think I'd have the same reaction if one of my friends was accused of this and I knew nothing about it. These days it's shockingly easy to ruin someone's life by making a false accusation, and I don't have a problem with him doing his best to avoid that situation while still allowing a thorough investigation to take place.

If he did know about it, and it sounds like he might, there's no excuse whatsoever.

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November 28th, 2011 at 12:40 AM | posted from iPhone (Score:1)
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Statement from SU Chancellor Nancy Cantor:



Dear SU Community:



Tonight, in the wake of troubling new allegations that emerged in the media today, I am writing to let you know that Bernie Fine’s employment at the University has been terminated effective immediately.



Frankly, the events of the past week have shaken us all. The taped phone call that ESPN revealed today was not provided to the university by Mr. Davis during the 2005 investigation by our legal counsel. Like the media review of the case a few years earlier, no other witnesses came forward during the university investigation, and those who felt they knew Bernie best could not imagine what has unfolded.



Since I last wrote to you, we have been cooperating fully with the authorities. On Friday, November 18th, as the District Attorney has noted, we turned over to his office the results of our 2005 months-long investigation. Also on November 18, our Board of Trustees retained an independent law firm, Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP, to review our procedures in responding to the initial allegations when they first came to the University’s attention. I fully supported that decision and it is vital that we examine our protocols and actions in dealing with such serious allegations. We need to learn all we can from this terrible lesson.



All of us have the responsibility, individually and collectively, to ensure that Syracuse University remains a safe place for every campus community member and everyone with whom we interact on a daily basis on campus or in the community as part of our learning, scholarship, or work. We do not tolerate abuse. If anything good comes out of this tragedy, it will be that this basic principle is reinforced.



Sincerely,



Nancy Cantor

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