OT: Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Teaser Trailer
Here's the new Star Wars stand alone film trailer. I know there is the thread downstream, but this one actually contains the trailer.
Personally, I love the originals, think the prequals are average with potential but poorly executed, and really, really enjoyed The Force Awakens (yes, it has similarities to A New Hope, it's also damn entertaining with great, original characters, which I think the haters disregard because nothing can live up to their expectations of the thrill of the originals).
Anyway, I'm excited about this one too. Looks a little more gritty and dark, which in and of itself does not make it good, but I like that it feels a bit more grounded in an individuals story rather than the massive story arc that is the series. It also has some samurai stuff going on there, like actual samurai stuff, not light sabers, which I'm completely on board with. Felicity Jones, Mads Mikelsen (!), Forest Whitaker (!), Donnie Yen, just a great international cast.
Same here! I think having a back story with a character we already know would be better. Maybe Chewbacca? How did he meet up with Han, what spurred his hatred of the empire?
This one could be good, but without the force, or light sabers, or other cool SW stuff, I'll be a little bummed.
Wait...what?! Are you suggesting there should be a spinoff film about Chewbacca?
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Chewie did get himself a spinoff. Surely you still have the tapes of the Star Wars Christmas Special, set on his home planet and staring his family?
And if you're too young to remember that (read: born after 1977)... well...uhhh... you didn't miss anything. Nothing to see here.
that women are the new main heroes
It has been the big trend in Hollywood in recent years. Hunger Games, the Divergent Series, The Force Awakens, Supergirl, and others are all playing on the hot trend of having a female lead/hero. I like it if it's done right, but hate it when they have a 120 lbs female beat up a 250 lbs muscle bound male - not by using her wits but by matching the guys strength.
LOL, god that movie looks like complete shit too.
That's where a proactive diversity choice (good) crosses the line to politically correct stupidity. I watch this show Banshee, cool show, very violent, strong female characters, all good--except one episode where this 110 lb woman won a 15 minute close quarters fight/wrestling match with a 220 lb russan badass. The whole fight was close quarters grappling where muscle and weight would really prevail, and it took you right out of the show.
Banshee is a pretty bad ass show, but yes, that scene made me go "really"??????. Another great show where a small women completely owns guys is Person of Interest. The good thing about that show is that they show her getting owned occassionally, and they establish her bad assery quite nicely.
when we see a 100 something pound girl on tv vs some huge brawler type what will happen next.
Remember that downtown chase scene where they were doing 80 mph 180 degree turns and what not? That almost lost the series for me.
I mean, it's good that women are finally getting more major roles. However,at some point when EVERY film starts to do it it makes me think that people aren't doing it to service the story, but because Hunger Games made a lot of money, so let's do what they did.
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Yes, of course you are right Freddie, and i was wrong for implying that women don't "do stuff," which obviously I was.. Please forgive my lapse.
And can't just be women are equal to men in every way, because that's just not the case, physically speaking. However, it is good to have strong female characters, if done correctly, they bring a new perspective and feel to stories without being lame stereotypes or absurd story reaches.
One of the great thing about the Star Wars, and Sci-Fi in general, is that there are other elements that can make up for the physical gaps with humans. The Force being one of those things, there is nothign to preclude a woman from being just as strong as a man. In The Force Awakens, I thought they did it right with Rey.
in films. Except with Disney. They are always killing off the Moms.
My only issue with Rey was not being a woman (she did a great job) it was how fast she became proficient in the force. The original trilogy showed you just how long it takes, it was three films and training with Yoda that got Luke to where he was, in Awakens Rey picked it up in about a day.
Rey absolutely lit up every scene she was in. Ridley was a FANTASTIC choice as were the duides who played Finn and Poe. It was strange seeing a Star Wars movie with decent acting...
I in no way was implying anything different
you have a problem that a woman learned something faster than one of her relatives did a generation earlier?
I guess it's just more stupid potitical correctness huh?
and that was the best way to convey her powers?
People don't understand basic facts:
Rey will pick up her abilities a bit faster b/c Luke was literally a farm boy raised by an over bearing uncle. He did some piloting in his T16, but that's about it.
Rey lived alone on a planet where she had to take care of herself. Dangerous scavenging, she can clearly handle a weapon.
Of course Rey will be a bit more "in tune" with her abilities re: lightsabres.
Not to mention, luke was never mind-probed via the force. That type of interaction could concievably lead to a more acute "awakening" of the force than anything Luke experienced until Dagobah.
:) funny.
I would say Kylo Ren was a son of a skywalker and trained his entire life with a light saber. I think Rey escaping with barely staying alive vs him would be the perfect set up. She is already 10x better than him and then she goes to train with Luke? Not much of an underdog story.
Let Rey seem fraile and weak to start then unleash her. She is too good to early got to work for it amiright?
Did you have an issue with Luke picking up space flight and combat in 10 minutes? He'd never left Tatooine and yet didn't seem to struggle much at all there. He managed to out pilot TIE fighter pilots who probably trained a fair amount right?
Maybe Rey had prior training as a child or something like that. Maybe certain aspects of the force come to her easier than Luke. These people are space wizards, they can do shit.
(though i grant you I was a nerd who read a book of the first film, where there was more backstory than in the film)
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It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters.
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Luke actually flew a T-16 skyhopper, which was a "High-performace airspeeder" according to the Star Wars Wikipedia. It was supposedly a similar design to the Rebel snub-fighters (X & Y wing) though it had a limited altitude.
In the part of the book that was left out of the movie, Luke actually does flight training in a tight canyon on Tatooine named "Beggar's Canyon" that resembles the Death Star trench. So in essence he had amazingly (well not so amazingly since it was his story) been training for the Death Star assault his entire teenage life.
The point of this other than I am a huge Original Series nerd, is that Lucas DID include back-story on why Luke was able to jump in and pick up the controls of an X-Wing so quickly. TFA gave us nothing on why Rey went from nothing to practically a force master in 5 seconds. Maybe they will explain that in the next film, but in isolation I found it laugh out loud ridiculous.
Wow, the actress who played Mon Mothma has aged extraordinarily well.
Yeah, this is ultra-geeky of me, but I thought that the Bothans were responsible for the recovery of the Death Star II plans, before Return of the Jedi...?
It looks really cool and I'm excited.
But the prequels were garbage, not average :P
I guess my biggest complaint about Episode III is that I didn't think it earned its payoff. The main point of the prequels was to tell the story of Anakin and the seduction that led him to the Dark Side & Vader -- and the films completely blew it when it came to that aspect. So, when we finally did see Vader in III, it was an "oh yeah, this happens now" moment for me, rather than what it should have been, chills.
I have a feeling the prequel trilogy will be remade, eventually.
yeah i don't disagree. i thought the whole political aspect of them were pretty interesting. how the empire/palpatine played both sides to ulitimately come to power.
I love the prequels. Episode 3 is fantastic.
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There.
And the story looks really interesting.
It looks like we're gonna see CGI-Peter Cushing, making an appearance as Grand Moff Tarkin.
I guess my question is, though -- who is that dude at 1:03?
My only complaint about this trailer? Those haircuts don't look nearly "late 70s" enough. ;-)
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I'd be completely okay with it if there are no Force users in the entire movie -- but we'll likely see Vader, I would assume.
At that point in the story arc, most people (like Han) consider it a myth.