OT - REPORT: Former Alabama Player Sues Lane Kiffin

Submitted by Blue in Paradise on

Kiffin is being sued for promising a former Alabama player a job given his ties to a 4 star recruit (former UF player).  The guy and his wife quit their jobs and move to South Florida and then Kiffin / FAU go silent after the background check turns up a misdemeanor that was subsequently cleared.  Where do you even start with this dumpster fire of a person?  ____________________

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/report-former-alabama-player-sue…

 

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/a/34762916/lane-kiffin-sued-for-fraud-by-fo…

 

Edit: so i did some research on the player he recruited and the guy actually was a 2017 JuCo transfer that already signed the FAU LOI.  In other words, this guy is pretty much stuck at FAU if he wants to ever wants to play college football again.

http://247sports.com/Player/DAnfernee-McGriff-37641?Institution=9232

In other words, Kiffin wasn't stupid here, he was just a gigantic bag of scum.

Blue in Paradise

March 22nd, 2017 at 11:19 PM ^

That really wasn't the point of my comment.  The guys tries to hire someone to get a recruit only to totally screw it up and end up with an embarassing lawsuit and (very likely) no recruit.

That being said, don't you think it is a good idea to do a background check before you offer somebody a job?  I have hired many people in my life and can assure it's not a good idea to wait until the day before the guy shows up at work to do the background check.

Blue in Paradise

March 23rd, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^

I thought I made it clear I don't give a flying fuck about whether Kiffin was legally correct or not in terms of breaking this contract.

The whole point is that the guy is a scumbag and as it turns out may get away with it because the player is stuck at FAU if he wants to play CFB.

Kinda Blue

March 23rd, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^

For my part, I was not looking to antagonize you.

Kiffin can be a scumbag.  And he may be in the right here.  Both can be true.  On that I suspect we can agree.

My guess is that Kiffin told him he'd give him a job, but the guy was required to go through the HR process by the university.  HR made him submit a background check.  He submits his info.  He moves to South Florida.  He fails background check.  He is not allowed to start work. 

If he moved before everything cleared, then that was his choice.  He knew he had a conviction and if he disclosed it on his HR application, he could have asked if it would prohibit his hiring.

Also, there are some states who have laws that prohibit public employers (like universities) from asking conviction information until the later stages of the hiring process.  Not sure if Florida is one of those.  That law allows folks with past convictions to get further in the hiring process and get hired more often because the employer considers the merits of the applicant rather than screens them out at the start.  The downside is that sometimes people move before the conviction info is discovered.  It is what it is.

Everyone Murders

March 23rd, 2017 at 8:06 AM ^

As noted above, it's "cite" not "site". And I'm not seeing the problem with "precedents" (as compared to your use of "precedent" which is also fine and the more common "legal" usage).  Glass houses, yo!

More importantly, he's just asking a question. Not sure the e-backhanding is merited here. (In fairness, though, it's hardly novel that an employment offer can be premised on a background check. So long as it's not a ruse for protected-class discrimination, it's not illegal. Citation? Contract clause of the U.S. constitution is a good place to start.)

Mr. Yost

March 23rd, 2017 at 5:13 AM ^

For an example, see every job I've ever been offered...ever.

Background checks aren't cheap. Many employers want to know you want the job before paying to complete a background check.

And we're talking about a University not a private business. As someone who has worked for multiple universities...I assure you this is common practice to save a few dollars.

Generally speaking you complete interviews, verbally offer, do a background check, pass the background check, get an official offer letter to sign and return with your I-9, direct deposit form, etc.

Schools try to save money, especially athletics departments. With all of the turnover of coaches and with the number of people you interview...you want to be sure someone is taking the job. As we all know in college athletics, interviewing for a job to get a raise or promotion is common practice.

Not only for coaches but also for administration and staff.

Blue in Paradise

March 23rd, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^

Are we seriously analyzing the job hiring process employed by Lane Kiffin? He was able to trap a recruit a 4 star recruit FAU by promising his contact a job.  After he get ths LOI, he tells the contact no thank you on the job.

Please stop with the legal analysis and company HR policy shit.

Blueblood2991

March 23rd, 2017 at 2:11 AM ^

I disagree. No one knew a thing about FAU football until the hire. Now they have national exposure. They signed a great recruiting class. Ticket sales and corporate sponsorships are through the roof.

It's the Pete Finebaum method. It pisses you off and makes you feel grimy, but damn if it doesn't bring in a lot of money.

turtleboy

March 23rd, 2017 at 8:49 AM ^

Even though the guy who quit and moved before actually getting the job is pretty dumb, Lane Kiffin is such an unabashed slimy cheating piece of shit that I automatically assign blame for anything bad or shady as his fault.

Hard-Baughlls

March 23rd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^

is that Kiffin learned nothing from his time with Saban.

You let your lackeys do the dirty work and keep your hands as clean as possible.  Like Pitino, Calipari, Meyer, Saban, etc....the survivalist scumbag knows to never get stuck in the dirt.

Kiffen has such scumbag aspirations, but just isn't really good at executing.