OT - REPORT: Former Alabama Player Sues Lane Kiffin
Kiffin is being sued for promising a former Alabama player a job given his ties to a 4 star recruit (former UF player). The guy and his wife quit their jobs and move to South Florida and then Kiffin / FAU go silent after the background check turns up a misdemeanor that was subsequently cleared. Where do you even start with this dumpster fire of a person? ____________________
http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaafb/report-former-alabama-player-sue…
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/a/34762916/lane-kiffin-sued-for-fraud-by-fo…
Edit: so i did some research on the player he recruited and the guy actually was a 2017 JuCo transfer that already signed the FAU LOI. In other words, this guy is pretty much stuck at FAU if he wants to ever wants to play college football again.
http://247sports.com/Player/DAnfernee-McGriff-37641?Institution=9232
In other words, Kiffin wasn't stupid here, he was just a gigantic bag of scum.
March 22nd, 2017 at 10:58 PM ^
Nothing about this story surprises me.
March 22nd, 2017 at 10:58 PM ^
You could start with a sentence summarizing this bit of tripe
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:02 PM ^
Kiffin gonna Kiff
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:04 PM ^
Kiffin promised him a job then he failed a background check and didn't get it.
He won't win in court.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:19 PM ^
That really wasn't the point of my comment. The guys tries to hire someone to get a recruit only to totally screw it up and end up with an embarassing lawsuit and (very likely) no recruit.
That being said, don't you think it is a good idea to do a background check before you offer somebody a job? I have hired many people in my life and can assure it's not a good idea to wait until the day before the guy shows up at work to do the background check.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:24 PM ^
It's very common to offer someone a job and include in the offer letter that the offer is contingent up passing a background check.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:33 PM ^
Can you sight some case law and precendents to add to the legal side of this discussion?
I take back my comments, my view is now that Kiffin is actually a diligent coach and employer.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:46 PM ^
Site. Precedent. You're out of your element, Donny.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:52 PM ^
please read with a " /s " since it apparently wasn't apparent enough.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:55 PM ^
on that excuse
March 23rd, 2017 at 12:44 AM ^
I disagree.
March 23rd, 2017 at 11:25 AM ^
I appreciate the common sense.
Meh. I don't think he means what you think he means.
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March 23rd, 2017 at 11:24 AM ^
I thought I made it clear I don't give a flying fuck about whether Kiffin was legally correct or not in terms of breaking this contract.
The whole point is that the guy is a scumbag and as it turns out may get away with it because the player is stuck at FAU if he wants to play CFB.
March 23rd, 2017 at 12:02 PM ^
For my part, I was not looking to antagonize you.
Kiffin can be a scumbag. And he may be in the right here. Both can be true. On that I suspect we can agree.
My guess is that Kiffin told him he'd give him a job, but the guy was required to go through the HR process by the university. HR made him submit a background check. He submits his info. He moves to South Florida. He fails background check. He is not allowed to start work.
If he moved before everything cleared, then that was his choice. He knew he had a conviction and if he disclosed it on his HR application, he could have asked if it would prohibit his hiring.
Also, there are some states who have laws that prohibit public employers (like universities) from asking conviction information until the later stages of the hiring process. Not sure if Florida is one of those. That law allows folks with past convictions to get further in the hiring process and get hired more often because the employer considers the merits of the applicant rather than screens them out at the start. The downside is that sometimes people move before the conviction info is discovered. It is what it is.
Considering "the guys tries" and misspelling "embarrassing" in the other post above, I don't think you were trying to be sarcastic. It's okay not to take internet posting seriously, but passing it off as being "sarcastic" isn't a good look.
March 23rd, 2017 at 11:27 AM ^
I was really interested in the legal side of this story. I will watch this case on Court TV if we are lucky enough for them to televise it.
And my comments about Kiffin indeed being a dligient coach and employer were of course straight from heart.
March 23rd, 2017 at 11:42 AM ^
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March 22nd, 2017 at 11:54 PM ^
*Cite. Just take it easy, Walter.
As noted above, it's "cite" not "site". And I'm not seeing the problem with "precedents" (as compared to your use of "precedent" which is also fine and the more common "legal" usage). Glass houses, yo!
More importantly, he's just asking a question. Not sure the e-backhanding is merited here. (In fairness, though, it's hardly novel that an employment offer can be premised on a background check. So long as it's not a ruse for protected-class discrimination, it's not illegal. Citation? Contract clause of the U.S. constitution is a good place to start.)
March 23rd, 2017 at 10:47 AM ^
Cite
March 23rd, 2017 at 10:58 AM ^
A cite four soar ayes.
March 23rd, 2017 at 11:33 AM ^
"cite" is the word you are looking for..... just sayin'
EDIT: Too slow... I should have known this board with pounce on that.
A sight fore sour I's.
This one is especially painful.
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For an example, see every job I've ever been offered...ever.
Background checks aren't cheap. Many employers want to know you want the job before paying to complete a background check.
And we're talking about a University not a private business. As someone who has worked for multiple universities...I assure you this is common practice to save a few dollars.
Generally speaking you complete interviews, verbally offer, do a background check, pass the background check, get an official offer letter to sign and return with your I-9, direct deposit form, etc.
Schools try to save money, especially athletics departments. With all of the turnover of coaches and with the number of people you interview...you want to be sure someone is taking the job. As we all know in college athletics, interviewing for a job to get a raise or promotion is common practice.
Not only for coaches but also for administration and staff.
March 23rd, 2017 at 11:36 AM ^
Are we seriously analyzing the job hiring process employed by Lane Kiffin? He was able to trap a recruit a 4 star recruit FAU by promising his contact a job. After he get ths LOI, he tells the contact no thank you on the job.
Please stop with the legal analysis and company HR policy shit.
What is happening is someone who actually works in the business explained to you typical HR practices and you don't like it because it doesn't fit your rant.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^
You play in/with dirt, there is a good chance you're gonna get dirty
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:26 PM ^
Read the article.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:27 PM ^
Joey Freshdefendent? Love it.
March 22nd, 2017 at 11:53 PM ^
by hiring Kiffin. There is no way this works out for them.
I disagree. No one knew a thing about FAU football until the hire. Now they have national exposure. They signed a great recruiting class. Ticket sales and corporate sponsorships are through the roof.
It's the Pete Finebaum method. It pisses you off and makes you feel grimy, but damn if it doesn't bring in a lot of money.
So your saying it wasn't a commitable offer?
March 23rd, 2017 at 11:39 AM ^
Best response in this thread
I'm only surprised when someone isn't suing Lane Kiffin
Even though the guy who quit and moved before actually getting the job is pretty dumb, Lane Kiffin is such an unabashed slimy cheating piece of shit that I automatically assign blame for anything bad or shady as his fault.
Kiffin is a scumbag, but if this guy quit his job and moved to South Florida without a contract in hand, then the blame for this incident is on him.
March 23rd, 2017 at 10:33 AM ^
is that Kiffin learned nothing from his time with Saban.
You let your lackeys do the dirty work and keep your hands as clean as possible. Like Pitino, Calipari, Meyer, Saban, etc....the survivalist scumbag knows to never get stuck in the dirt.
Kiffen has such scumbag aspirations, but just isn't really good at executing.