MarkyMarkWitho…

November 2nd, 2021 at 4:30 PM ^

Replying here if only to share my experience more visibly.

I was going through a divorce, and my soon-to-be ex-wife and I were sort of reconciling.  She ended up getting pregnant and I was over the moon.

Little did I know that she decided to end the pregnancy without telling me til afterwards.

I lost my mind and went on a bender after almost never drinking.  I was lost emotionally and physically and was blackout drunk.

I made the shitty decision to get in my car and drive.

Thankfully - I didn't get too far before crashing my OWN car in a 1-car accident.

I thanked everything there is out there that I didn't make my situation worse and end the life of another person after hearing about the death of my future child.

Moral of the story - there is NO good goddamn reason to drive drunk - no matter how devastated and destroyed you are on the inside.

MarcusBrooks

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:52 PM ^

not only did she die she BURNED TO DEATH because a drunk millionaire rear ended her car causing it to catch on fire. All because he is too damn self centered and selfish to call a ride service and needs to show off to his date. 

Beyond disgusted, hope he gets the maximum sentence 

uofmchris2

November 2nd, 2021 at 2:54 PM ^

My heart goes out to the family of that innocent victim. So sad.

Ruggs career is over and hopefully he'll have plenty of time to think about his actions while behind bars.

 

 

BlueWolverine02

November 2nd, 2021 at 4:03 PM ^

Well in Stallworths case a pedestrian hopped a barrier and crossed a high speed road (freeway?)in front of him, not at an intersection or crosswalk.  Stallworth wasn't speeding excessively and they determined that any car would not have been able to stop in time.

If a sober person crosses the yellow line and hits a drunk person, you really going to blame the drunk person?

This does not appear to be the case with Ruggs.

FauxMo

November 2nd, 2021 at 4:09 PM ^

OK, how about this? You are driving drunk, just over the legal limit at .10. You are driving down a two-lane highway at night, in a rural area, no street lights and an overcast sky. Another drunk guy (much drunker than you) stops his car around a blind curve with his lights off, still in the road and just on the other side of the blind curve, and falls asleep. While your blood alcohol is .10, you are driving the speed limit (let's say 65) and within the lines. You come around the blind curve, rear-end his car, and he dies while drunk-sleeping. Accident reconstruction experts determine that no one - drunk, sober, professional NASCAR driver, whatever - could have responded in time to avoid hitting and killing the stopped driver. Voila! You are guilty of being a drunk driver but not at fault for the death of another driver! 

Brian Griese

November 2nd, 2021 at 4:10 PM ^

I work in auto insurance claims (username definitely does not check out) but I can tell you this happens more than you think, thought it isn't often.  For example, I handled a claim not too long where one car merged across 4 lanes of traffic and didn't see a motorcycle in the far lane and splattered the guy.  The police showed up and hauled away the motorcycle driver to jail (after he went to the hospital) since he was .12.  However, multiple witnesses said the motorcycle driver was headed straight down the middle of the lane and driving the speed limit or close to it and did nothing wrong.  Therefore, even though he broke a state law in terms of DUI that did not mean he was liable for what took place in the accident itself - it just means he got busted for the offense in a bizarre fashion.  

WestQuad

November 2nd, 2021 at 5:17 PM ^

People shouldn't drive drunk at all, but there is driving drunk and there is driving DRUNK.  I'm guessing everyone who drinks has driven over the legal limit at one point or another.  However, I know people close to me who are alcoholics who have driven while black out drunk.   You shouldn't do either, but one is a poor decision with slowed reflexes and the other is suicide/manslaughter.

DetroitBlue

November 2nd, 2021 at 4:39 PM ^

IIRC, in Stallworth’s case the victim hopped a fence dressed in black (or dark clothes anyway), and crossed a freeway in the dark. The judge decided that even a sober person wouldn’t have been able to avoid him/react in time. So while he clearly broke the law by driving under the influence (Stallworth wasn’t super drunk iirc), being drunk didn’t result in the guy’s death. 

JamieH

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:13 PM ^

He paid the family of the victim a ton of cash in return for them asking the DA to go light on him. 

BS move by a rich person?  Sure.  But his money will help the family far more than him being in jail would have, and he prevented them from needing to go through a difficult civil case to get money out of him.

I guess I put myself in their shoes--would I want Stallworth in jail forever or would I want his restitution?    Personally I'd take the cash just like they did.

FreddieMercuryHayes

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:18 PM ^

I don't think one should have to choose between getting paid off and justice.  I, personally, would want both.  And you can get both which is why we have civil courts.  Mostly I would want justice and true repentance.  I'm a big believer in second chances and improving one's self and the world after a terrible mistake.  The problem is that second one takes a long time to demonstrate and achieve and families who have loved ones lost also have immediate concerns. 

Perkis-Size Me

November 2nd, 2021 at 4:02 PM ^

I am in no position to judge anyone who feels otherwise, but personally if I was in that position where I lost a family member or loved one to a drunk driver, no amount of money they could offer me would make me want anything less than the maximum sentence for them. If not for a feeling of justice, it would be for holding them accountable. This wasn’t some mistake they accidentally made. They chose to get drunk and get behind the wheel. They chose to endanger others. 

I’d never want to feel like I sent a drunk driver the message that my loved one’s life had a price tag associated with it, and they were able to just walk away and consider everything a closed transaction. If I really want their money, I’m happy to go to civil court afterwards and settle money matters then. But if I took their money and then saw them out on the street two months later, I feel like I would regret it every day for the rest of my life. I’d be wondering if they ever really learned anything, or care about what they took for me.

If you or anyone else feels differently, then that’s completely fine. Again I’m in no position to judge because I’ve never been there. I’m just going by how I assume that I would feel in that situation.

LabattsBleu

November 2nd, 2021 at 2:55 PM ^

Fuck that is tragic...

Most of all, I feel terrible for the innocent woman in the Toyota and her friends and family, but also feel bad for Ruggs and his friends and family...

just goes to show what a dumb idea it is to ever drink and drive.

Sad for everyone that have had their lives changed by that single decision...

allezbleu

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:21 PM ^

If reports are true, I don't feel bad for Ruggs. Sure we're all prone to dumb decisions and so we can empathize on some level with Ruggs (certainly feel bad for his family). But when you get drunk and get behind the wheel, you've actively chosen to endanger others on the road. At the end of the day, a bunch of innocent people were involuntarily murdered and the man who caused it is alive. And you don't deserve sympathy for that.

 

iMBlue2

November 2nd, 2021 at 6:39 PM ^

Why oils you feel bad for Ruggs? He’s an adult, he knew the laws, Hebrew them and burned an innocent person alive as a result. I’m sure you mean it’s a shame because he’s young rich and good at football, but having sympathy for Somone after they do something like this is misguided.  His actions were in this instance are some of the most selfish I can think of.  I’m sure this isn’t his first time either.  

iMBlue2

November 2nd, 2021 at 9:57 PM ^

Yeah and you’re phrasing leads one to think what happened was an “accident” which it wasn’t.  It was a choice to ignore the safety of others and the potential of a tragedy happening.  It was dumb and I do no one should feel bad for him.

robpollard

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:54 PM ^

I thought of that, but it's (thankfully) a different era. Previously, you could beat a woman and teams would shake it off as "boys being boys," but now that gets you suspended and out for multiple games (if not longer; Ray Rice never played again as no team would sign him).

Ruggs will be put on leave by the NFL and if convicted, he will be going to prison for at least 2 years...so he will obviously be cut from the team, and will very likely need to apply for re-instatement from the NFL if he wants to try to sign with a team once he is out.

I could *maybe* see a team signing him if he's done some real penitent work while in prison *and* the family of the victim chooses to publicly forgive him (obviously, that's up to them) *and* he's still in good physical shape *and* still younger than 30; but that's a ways down the road and not really important right now.

Naked Bootlegger

November 2nd, 2021 at 2:58 PM ^

My son is a high school senior.  He lost a very good friend to a senseless DUI rear-end accident about a month ago (the driver's BAC was 3X threshold level when taken at the hospital), so I'm particularly sensitive to this issue right now.   

Henry Ruggs made a horribly bad decision that could have been prevented with a simple phone call.   Pay someone sober to take you home.   There's no excuse.

SpamCityCentral

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:05 PM ^

My mom lost her dad to a drunk driver when she was really young. She never got the chance really remember him as she was so young. I don't know all the circumstances around the accident but the guy responsible was never found/charged to my knowledge. With technology these days there is no excuse for it. Plan ahead and find a driver. Uber or Lyft. Hell if you're a millionaire just hire a damn driver. 

JamieH

November 2nd, 2021 at 3:01 PM ^

Tragic all around. Tragic for the person who is dead.  Tragic for Ruggs who will pay heavily for a terrible decision and may lose his football career.  He's been charged with a category B felony with a mandatory sentence of 2 to 20 years if convicted.

Avoiding driving drunk is so easy  these days.  You can get an Uber or Lyft driver to take you anywhere.  It just isn't worth it.  

I'm not one of the people that think all drunk drivers are terrible people.  I think most are just normal people that have a blind spot for their abilities after drinking a few.  Please please please just get someone else to drive.