OT: NU & Illinois Renaming the Rivalry

Submitted by formerlyanonymous on
In a conference that can't have enough trophies, Northwestern and Illinois are trying what to call their trophy. If any of you can forward this to NU alum Colbert, please do. If not, I've got to say that Popcorn Bowl is hard to top. Vote HERE if you wish. Your options:
  • The Land of Lincoln Trophy - A replica of Lincoln's stove pipe hat mounted on a piece of White Oak (Illinois' state tree).
  • President's Trophy - Recognizing the four presidents associated with the state of Illinois - Lincoln, Grant, Reagan and Obama.
  • The Popcorn Bowl - Named after the Illinois state snack.
  • Graham-Grange Fire Bell - The original series trophy started in 1941 was a fire bell named after two of the greatest players at each school - Otto Graham of Northwestern and Red Grange of Illinois.
  • Suggest a name for the trophy

MH20

March 31st, 2009 at 1:59 PM ^

The only President's Trophy that will matter is the one that is awarded to the NHL team with the most points accumulated during the regular season.

MaizeAndBlueWahoo

March 31st, 2009 at 4:22 PM ^

I did not know about this. I have three thoughts in response: 1, I can name most Big Ten rivalry trophies off the top of my head as well as the teams involved. Not that me not knowing it makes it irrelevant, but it certainly speaks, in my mind, to the total lack of notoriety. 2, the NCAA political correctness regarding Indian imagery is fucking shitty. 3, the state of Illinois still has one of the least interesting and least relevant intrastate rivalries between the two primary same-division football teams in all of college football.

Yinka Double Dare

March 31st, 2009 at 5:23 PM ^

One or two professors and some others threw a fit about the mascot, and then the NCAA eventually made their "hostile and abusive" rule and so Illinois no longer has its mascot nor any other Indian imagery. Apparently without the imagery the NCAA thinks the name is OK, which is odd. You'll still see "Save the Chief" stuff there and people wearing the old stuff to the games.

Subrosa

March 31st, 2009 at 5:30 PM ^

They also stopped doing their incredibly and amazingly offensive halftime show, where the "Chief" would do all sorts of cliched dances and stereotypes. I remember seeing it once and I'd heard it was bad and even then I was kind of blown away that they still did that. Of course, Cal and Stanford still play for the Axe and one of Cal's 43 different fight songs is about how "We're gonna scalp some blockheads", so I guess it shouldn't be too surprising.

a2bluefan

March 31st, 2009 at 5:51 PM ^

Ya know, there have obviously been many controversies over teams using Native American imagery, resulting in making changes... the closest-to-home being when the EMU Hurons changed to the EMU Eagles. IIRC, an A2 News article quoted the Huron tribal chief as saying he didn't really care. I've always wondered why, then, the Washington Redskins are still so named. So I googled "Redskin" (no S on the end), and the Wikipedia article that resulted was most telling. It seems that the only ones they legally have to answer to is all the other NFL teams. With no such opposition present (and despite several legal challenges from individuals in the past), the decision is based on sales of shirts, jerseys, hats, etc. Since the stuff still sells, they keep the Redskins name. This, according to Wikipedia anyway...

jmblue

March 31st, 2009 at 6:53 PM ^

There are differing levels of offensiveness. Native American groups tend not to be too bothered by teams named after specific tribes (such as the CMU Chippewas and FSU Seminoles, who were both granted tribal permission to keep their names). In some cases, tribal leaders have actually argued in favor of keeping these names. At the other end of the spectrum are names like "Redskins," or the Cleveland Indians' logo, which are clearly not intended to be flattering. Only at the professional level, with big bucks at stake, can teams still get away with using these names. In between are names like "Chiefs" or "Braves," which seem to not cause a big stir either way despite their origins.

jamiemac

March 31st, 2009 at 4:11 PM ^

what they should call it, but I will take this chance to say that Toledo and Bowling Green hook up every year to play for the Peace Pipe. Now thats a freaking trpohy, people! One day, I hope to drink from the Little Brown Jug and then take a toke from the Peace Pipe.