OT NBA trade ideas - specifically Pistons facilitating Davis to LAL
With Anthony Davis asking out of NO, and desiring to end up on the Lakers, I found myself wondering if the Pistons could benefit from facilitating this.
I went with the thought that the Pelicans wouldn’t have much use for most of the Lakers roster, as they would need to net a legit 5 in any Davis trade. I think perhaps if the Pistons added Drummond to the package NO receives, it might work out to everyone’s benefit.
Using the NBA trade machine, I found a few things that worked, including:
LAL receives A Davis
NO receives A Drummond and K Kuzma
DET receives M. Wagner, K Pope, L Ball
I freely admit that I’m not anywhere near knowledgeable about the NBA to know if this makes sense for the teams involved. Feel free to trash me, but the more pertinent question is do the Pistons want to get involved in something like this?
January 29th, 2019 at 7:48 PM ^
Be honest, how much of this was trying to work out a way to benefit the Pistons as part of the blockbuster, and how much of this was trying to McGuyver a way to get Wagner back home?
January 29th, 2019 at 7:54 PM ^
Zero percent because of Wagner.
Obviously, I wouldn’t suggest the Pistons get involved in this unless they can turn a bit of a profit.
January 29th, 2019 at 7:49 PM ^
Is there a such thing as tampering in the NBA? Sounds like a no, yet another reason I do not watch.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:09 PM ^
Yes, there is. LAL have got dinged a couple times for it in the past few years. Magic once and because of LeBron talking about Davis earlier this year. Davis may be fined bc of the actions of his agent in leaking the trade demand. There are quite a few articles out there about all of it if you looked.
Sorry you miss out on some entertaining basketball btw.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:44 PM ^
Davis was fined $50,000
January 29th, 2019 at 8:59 PM ^
He will make more from his first tweezer commercial in L.A.
January 29th, 2019 at 11:01 PM ^
The NBA is terrible now it peaked in the 90s...talents to south beach and super teams drained the competition out of the sport. I much prefer the college game...I’m glad you enjoy it please continue it’s not my thing.
January 30th, 2019 at 1:07 AM ^
Lol, peaked in the 90's when Jordan won 6 championships? Yeah, super teams are draining the competition out of the sport.
January 30th, 2019 at 7:53 AM ^
Did you really laugh out loud or did you just type that to sound condescending? And no Jordan did not call Magic Johnson or Karl Malone and plot to go to the same team so he could win. The competition was immensely better then and he won with players like Scott Skiles, Will Purdue and Toni kukoc. Also anyone that even try’s to compare Lebron and Jordan is laughable, I’m glad Mr. James does all his charity he’s not in the same tier of player. This is called an opinion everyone is allowed to have them and no it’s not something to cry about.
January 30th, 2019 at 8:49 AM ^
I have an opinion that you either don't proofread your posts, are not a skilled punctuator & speller, or English is not your primary language. I did cry a little while reading through your comments.
January 30th, 2019 at 9:41 AM ^
Cool story guy.
edited to speak to your much superior intellect.
This is the point where somone doesn’t agree with a statement so rather than provide a counterpoint, let’s point out any flaws and ride them in order to discredit the source of the information. I’m proud of you, keep up being the best grammar cop you can be. Sorry if this sounds snide but your post seems a bit personalized.
January 30th, 2019 at 8:56 AM ^
Just because everyone is entitled to an opinion doesn't mean that it's an accurate opinion. It's really quite rare for an NBA (or even college) team to win without at least two, if not three stars. When was the last time this happened? 2004 with the Pistons beating Kobe and Shaq?
January 30th, 2019 at 9:54 AM ^
Because if the opinion doesn’t match yours it must be wrong. Look at the viewership it has been declining for the NBA which would indicate to a reasonable person that interest is fading. I agree with you about having multiple allstars to win but it’s the optic of how some of these teams are put together. Consider the front office and fans in New Orleans and how they see this situation. The star player on their team just announced he wanted to be traded as a result of Lebron James recruiting him to LA, so they lose out because James can’t beat Golden State with Lonzo and Kuzma.
January 30th, 2019 at 10:47 AM ^
87-81 games, and a pace reminiscent of HS girls bball want my cup of tea either. Sure I loved the defense when the BadBoys and Going to Work Pistons were winning titles but I would have enjoyed the Pistons winning those games 115-110 just as much i believe.
January 30th, 2019 at 12:20 PM ^
Yeah but watching one guy hold the rock dribbling looking to iso until he can drive then kick it out to a spot up three isn’t so entertaining either.
I’m taking it your not a fan of soccer,baseball, or hockey?
January 29th, 2019 at 7:50 PM ^
With all the teams going after Davis I doubt NO would give him up for just Drummond and Kuzma. Plus I wanna see Mo thrive as a Laker :)
January 29th, 2019 at 7:55 PM ^
The NBA trade machine doesn’t account for draft picks in trades, but I would imagine the Lakers would have to send NO a -#1 or two to seal the deal.
January 29th, 2019 at 7:50 PM ^
This would be a terrible trade for the pistons, even though I would like to see Mo play for the pistons.
January 29th, 2019 at 7:57 PM ^
It saves the Pistons $13 million on the salary cap for 3 years.
Still sure it’s that bad?
January 29th, 2019 at 8:10 PM ^
Yeah, it's that bad. Lonzo Ball is an overrated putz who can't shoot and won't be able to coexist with Reggie Jackson. Why would we want the Lakers' castoffs and spare parts in exchange for Andre Drummond?
January 29th, 2019 at 8:50 PM ^
Because Drummond doesn't do anything well except rebound and that's a highly overrated skill. No shooting or scoring and inconsistent effort. He's way overpaid compared to his value.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:55 PM ^
I’m fine with any point guard not named Reggie Jackson, Jameer Nelson, or Jose Calderon at this point. I’d be thrilled with Lonzo.
January 30th, 2019 at 10:09 AM ^
Lonzo is worse than Reggie Jackson. And Reggie Jackson is horrible.
January 31st, 2019 at 12:42 AM ^
That's patently false.
Lonzo is good, and his little brother are good. Lavar is ridiculous, but his sons are good at basketball
January 29th, 2019 at 8:17 PM ^
13 million over 3 years is really chump change in todays NBA, Jon Leuer is making nearly 11m. What do the Pistons need cap space for anyways? No notable free agents are signing here. The Pistons need young talent and draft picks.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:05 PM ^
Pistons need to get a rebuild started. Drummond should be traded for anything on any value at all. And since griffin has been so good the year can get legit value for him in the offseason. Time to do it right and commit to a full rebuild.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:18 PM ^
Nobody is going to give up much for a player in their early 30s on that contract with his injury history. We didn’t give up a ton for him. I would be surprised if we are able to trade him at any time before the final year of his contract unless we are willing to take on several bad contracts or give up draft picks.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:46 PM ^
Fun fact, Blake is 29.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:57 PM ^
And turns 30 in March, which means he’d be in his early 30s at the time that the poster wants to trade him.
January 29th, 2019 at 9:13 PM ^
Wrong. The trade deadline in February 9, upon which Griffin will still be 29.
January 29th, 2019 at 9:15 PM ^
The poster I responded to wanted to trade him in the summer, not this season.
January 30th, 2019 at 1:04 PM ^
I want to trade Blake today, I’m just saying the offseason would likely be easier. Pistons gave up Tobias Harris for him and their assets. I guess you are obvious but Harris is pretty good. Griffin has only risen his value since then by staying healthy and evolving his game. Pistons could likely get a young player with potential and a lottery pick.
January 29th, 2019 at 7:51 PM ^
And then LeMelo to Michigan!
/ducks
January 29th, 2019 at 7:57 PM ^
This ain’t it mane
January 29th, 2019 at 8:03 PM ^
Why don't you just put the post title as "shitty trade ideas"?
January 29th, 2019 at 8:43 PM ^
Back in the day, there used to be public service announcements for a program called RIF.
You might look into it.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:06 PM ^
Drummond's contract is one of the worst in the NBA, I say whatever they can do to get rid of him for something.
January 29th, 2019 at 11:28 PM ^
He's overpaid but that's a huge exaggeration. He's probably only the 4th worst contract on the team behind Leuer, Reggie and Galloway. Then, just off the top of my head, Mahinmi, Mozgov, Biyombo, Wall, Brandon Knight and Andrew Wiggins all have worse contracts (or extensions that will kick in next year in Wall's case)
January 29th, 2019 at 8:09 PM ^
I would love if we could get Lonzo Ball. But I don't think this trade would go through.
I also am not sure if the Lakers will even try to trade for him, because Davis openly said he isn't signing with NO.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:14 PM ^
They'll try, because LeBron's not getting any younger and Davis isn't a free agent until 2020. And signing extensions is easier and more cap-friendly than signing brand new free agents. They'll have to ditch some of their assets anyway if they just want to sign Davis off the open market, so they might as well trade them to NO and get an extra year of Davis.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:17 PM ^
You're right. I was thinking he was a FA in 2019.
Because of that, it's going to take a ton to get Davis. It would probably be Lonzo, Kuzma, Ingram, and a couple firsts or something. That sounds crazy, but they could get Klay in FA this offseason if they also have Davis.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:10 PM ^
I would do that if I was the Pistons. KCP contract up at the end of the year. Moe and Ball on good contracts. Moves Drummond’s contract. Even if it doesn’t make the team better, it doesn’t delay a rebuild longer than our current situation. With RJ on an expiring contract next season, they might be able to attract a pretty good FA if Ball continues to develop.
Love it from the Pistons perspective. Doubt the Pelicans like it though. They’d probably want a first rounder from the pistons or lakers in this scenario. Maybe both
January 29th, 2019 at 8:17 PM ^
Is the trade machine similar to the transfer portal?
January 29th, 2019 at 8:44 PM ^
Why would NO trade Moe, Ball and KCP for Drummond? That's in effect what they would be doing and that's not how you build a roster, taking on Drummond's contract. They could make a better deal with another team.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:51 PM ^
I assumed NO would want a 5 in any trade for Davis.
January 29th, 2019 at 9:58 PM ^
And of all the 5s in the league, they go after Drummond? Lots of teams are interested in Davis and if we're throwing in 3rd teams to facilitate a trade, that puts a lot of 5s into play. We've already seen that no matter how many teams have needed a PG, none were going to take Reggie Jackson and his contract.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:45 PM ^
You think NO is going to accept Drummond and Kuzma as their return? You would need to add about 10 first round picks to that.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:48 PM ^
If the pistons add a second to the lakers, I’d like to get at least a serviceable center replacement. Either McGee or chandler. I don’t know if mo would be ready to start at center and the pistons don’t have another guy who can be even average at the four other than Blake. I’m fine with putting Blake at the five if you have a solid stretch four to pair with him.
January 29th, 2019 at 8:50 PM ^
the best trade the pistons could make would be prying away either Russell or dinwiddie from the nets for Stanley and whatever else. I’d love to get D-Lo. Then you can trade Reggie for basically anything and you still have a starting level point. I prefer russell because he’s younger but either is good. I think the nets prefer dinwiddie
January 29th, 2019 at 9:53 PM ^
Why would the Nets trade either for Stanley? SJ has virtually no trade value at this point. You’d have to give them something for Dinwiddie or Russell. I Dinwiddie is on an expiring contract so I could absolutely see them trading him but only if they get something valuable in return. SJ isn’t an asset to them