OT: Moon Landing (cool story bro)

Submitted by bluewave720 on

I was just watching the Olympics with the Mrs. and NBC had a piece about the space race between the United States and Russia.  It reminded me of an incredible story I heard.

I have had many conversations with a man who was employed at NASA at the time of the first moon landing.  As I'm sure you are all familiar with, Neil Armstrong, while taking his first steps on the moon, bounces slightly.  Most people think it was because of a lack of gravity.  My engineering friend said that was not why Armstrong bounced when he hit the moon's surface.

Before Apollo 11 landed on the moon, there was an extensive amount of discussion involving the NASA brain trust over what, exactly, the moon was made out of.  After months of deliberation, the panel had decided on two possibilities.  Either the moon was solid, and a human could walk on it.  Or the moon had a center comprised of space dust and any human who touched it's surface would fall a hundred meters into it's center and be lost forever.

Neil Armstrong, before placing his feet on the moon's surface, wasn't sure if he'd ever come back to Earth.  His bounce was a reflex, because he didn't know if he'd be buried forever in outer space, or be the first human to successful walk on the moon's surface .  

I've thought of this so many times and can't believe how bad ass that crew was for taking that trip.   

BlueMan80

February 15th, 2014 at 7:16 PM ^

The Russians and Americans crashed and successfully landed many probes on the moon in the 60s prior to Apollo 11. Took pictures, samples, etc. He was just trying to dunk on the moon.

Gameboy

February 15th, 2014 at 7:23 PM ^

As a guy with an Aerospace Engineering degree from Michigan, that is the dumbest thing I heard. We understood pretty well about the density of the moon. There was no chance that someone thought Armstrong would fall "hundred" feet down. There is a MOON LANDER that weighs thousands of pounds supported by tiny feet securely standing. Why would anyone think they would fall? I think someone was pulling a fast one on your expense. 

mGrowOld

February 15th, 2014 at 7:31 PM ^

Lol. Everybody's knows the whole "moon landing" was simply shot in Hollywood by Stanley Kubrick. Pretty sure Stanley, knowing his legendary attention to detail wrote the hop into the script. My guess is that he had multiple takes on that shot till he got it just right.
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CoachBP6

February 15th, 2014 at 8:16 PM ^

A lot of people believe we never landed on the moon and that it was an elaborate hoax.

I am here to tell you I have no clue if we did or didn't lol

Blazefire

February 15th, 2014 at 8:36 PM ^

There are a million pieces of evidence saying we went. There are zero saying we did not. Seriously, every piece of counter 'evidence' ever mentioned has been independently disproven.

All thats left is tinfoil doubt. You're not that stupid.

SGBlue

February 15th, 2014 at 9:28 PM ^

OK...I have the advantage of using my M Aero Eng degree to work on the space program. A few years after the moon landings, but I have a few cool story brahs on the Shuttle and Space Station. In any event, as a few people posted above, before the Surveyor flights a few people speculated that the lunar surface might be a deep layer of loosely packed dust that would swallow a landing vehicle. By the time we sent Apollo 11 to the moon, everyone who counted knew that the surface could support humans. The reason Neil Armstrong did the "bounce" was to test his ability to jump back up to the lower rung of the lunar module, which was just over three feet from the landing pad. So much of what the astronauts did were engineering tests, since earth-based simulations could only go so far in testing these things in 1/6 G. Another minor add-on...Armstrong was a consultant on a project I worked on in the late 80s, and he came in for several program reviews. Needless to say, when he came into the meetings, the level of respect and awe was through the roof, even among a large group of deeply experienced rocket scientists. And he was the nicest, most gracious person you could imagine in those circumstances, even though he had achieved one of the most awesome human accomplishments in history. It's just a damn shame that we're not striving for those same accomplishments any more.

Drbogue

February 16th, 2014 at 12:02 AM ^

Seems silly. Wouldn't the Apollo craft fall through the dust before he ever got off the lander? Sounds like Sparty science to me.

Prince Lover

February 16th, 2014 at 12:25 AM ^

Would someone need to see the equipment NASA left behind? Are we talking store bought, a professional astronomer type or one of those huge observatory types? I think that would finalize the debate of were we/weren't we there. No?

saveferris

February 16th, 2014 at 10:42 AM ^

The most powerful telescopes on Earth are still an order of magnitude too weak to see any NASA hardware on the moons surface. There are pictures of this, but they have been taken from lunar orbit, and in even these pictures the objects are barely visible. Telescopes on earth are capable of resolving details down to 200 m. To see the decent stage of the LM, you'd have resolve detail at around 5 m, so for now indirect evidence is all you have.

Alton

February 16th, 2014 at 11:06 AM ^

http://www.lroc.asu.edu/news/uploads/M175252641LR_ap15.png

The Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC), launched in 2009, took pictures of all 6 landing sites from an altitude of 25 km or so; the picture linked above is of the all-Michigan Apollo 15 mission--you can clearly see the Lunar Module, the Lunar Rover, the tracks of the Lunar Rover, and the area where the experiment package (ALSEP) was set up.

Check out the LROC website for hundreds more pictures of landing sites & other lunar features:

http://www.lroc.asu.edu/

Blue Durham

February 17th, 2014 at 11:57 AM ^

I don't doubt that you had conversations with someone who worked at NASA at the time, and what he believed were NASA concerns. But I don't believe the gist of the story, that NASA believed there was a possibility that the moon was made of soft dust.

Not buying it.

Given that we pretty much understood what asteroids were made of (solid stuff), and given the nature of the moon's surface (craters), it gravitational field and thus its implied mass versus it size, its pretty clear that the moon is solid, even back then.

This friend of yours - is he the same guy who thought the photoshopped MTV commercial with the planting of a big M (for MTV) flag was a real Michigan flag actually on the moon?