Little late but I just got done watching the Clarkston and Stevenson semi-final game. While the coach for Clarkston screwed up with the classic "All The Right Moves" move by handing off. I have never seen a team get fucked by the refs worse than Clarkston. I think I counted 4 horrible calls that if any would have been called correctly would have won the game. IF you haven't seen it go to the MHSAA website and watch the last 3 minutes of the game, simply amazing.
OT-MHSAA Football Playoffs
Link to the video, plz? Kthx.
with :38 left. he was down for a full second before the ball came out
2 Face mask was shaky
3 With 8 seconds left when the kid catches it he's not out of bounds.
4. QB fumbles the snap and Clarkston recovers he never spiked it.
I think ther's 1 more but I forgot.
I am at ford field watching Inkster play Lowell. Watching DG highlight videos it always looks like he kind of shot puts the ball when he throws but I can see why he is rated as having one of the strongest arms for a QB recruit. In warm ups he was throwing bullets - it was impressive.
Gardner not looking very impressive. He should look like a man amongst boys he looks like a boy amongst boys. They don't bonce off of him, he goes down easy, he isn't very shifty or fast. His throwing mechanics are horrible he pushes the ball instead of throwing it.
It is still early put so far I don't see what all the hype is about.
its the state championship game. lowell is good
i guess we should just fire all the guys at the elite 11 and let you evaluate the recruits from now on.
Gardner just threw a bad pick. Anyone who doesn't think he should redshirt needs to watch this game. He is still very raw.
100% agree. He as a lot of work to put in.
Cleary, based on your judgement RR has made a mistake and should immediately revoke his offer and free up a scholarship for someone else.
I have never seen him in person, but have watched a lot of video on him and considering he is in HS and all the "experts" are extremely high on him, I'd say there is something they are seeing that you obviously can't. This isn't the place to be bashing future UM players.
Can't people give their opinion? Isn't that what we all do around here?
But when someone says:
"Gardner not looking very impressive. He should look like a man amongst boys he looks like a boy amongst boys. They don't bonce off of him, he goes down easy, he isn't very shifty or fast. His throwing mechanics are horrible he pushes the ball instead of throwing it.
It is still early put so far I don't see what all the hype is about."
it seems more like bashing than giving an opinion. If it was more like "I have been watching the game and he hasn't really stood out to me so far" that would be different.
It sounds like an opinion to me. And, I couldn't agree more. Not only does he not seem fast, he seems slow. I think he is at a disadvantage because Lowell seems to be a much better team, but UofM slappies or not, we should be able to see that this kid needs some time to develop.
is a hell of a lot different than saying his mechanics are horrible and I can't see what all the hype is about.
There are a lot better ways to critique a guys performance than to use words like horrible and slow etc and when he is a future player of the team you support, I think it is a better idea to use them.
OK, how would you describe it?
That he still needs time to develop, like I said above. After I mentioned that, I would describe him exactly the same way that nearly every other recruiting analyst in the country does and you can bet that "horrible" or "I don't see what all the hype is about" wouldn't appear anywhere in it.
I think the argument here is whether we are discussing him in general or in regards to this game. I would agree that no one should take one performance and forget a career of performances. However, I think the description could be much more critical when describing this game.
This is the first time most of us have seen him in a full game. Those Friday night lights video's that are posted here are just overviews.
This is a big game against the best team they have faced, I expected more out of him. Having said that I honestly don't know how Inkster won a game with the line and D they have.
Wow...chill out. I just said he doesn't look very impressive which he doesn't. I have said nothing about his potential or "revoking" the scholarship.
"His throwing mechanics are horrible he pushes the ball instead of throwing it?" He "goes down easy?"
That's bullshit talk and you know it. Don't let the negativity from the BB loss and entire FB season cloud your judgment.
Bullshit?! Are you guys watching the same game. He broke 1 tackle that I have seen, but has been pretty easilly tackled other than that. As far as pushing the ball goes, three of his passes looked like jumpshots and that interception was awful. A bad game doesn't mean the kid doesn't have a great future, but he looks like he is feeling a tremendous amount of pressure and is reverting back to old habits that were the knock on him last year.
Since you, for some reason, have committed yourself to defending this ridiculous post, please justify this statement regarding DG, as well:
"I don't see what all the hype is about."
I am not trying to defend everything that has been said, but fine, if you want me to, I would say that so far this game I haven't seen it either. I called a friend of mine to tell him this game was on TV so he could see the QB recruit I have been telling him about, and right now I am wishing I didn't. All he has seen this game is an interception, another pass that should have been intercepted, and two long completions that looked like he threw the ball up and prayed. I buy the hype and like this kid, but liking him and the fact that he is our #1 recruit to not make bad passes pretty. All I said was that he has played poorly so far today.
I didn't watch the game but with all the hype around here regarding him I would expect a pretty stellar performance. If what the other guy has said is true than I would be suspect as well. It is all he has to go on as far as seeing a whole game of his.
I have to agree. I thought he would be dominate, but nothing so far. He hasn't done anything with his legs, and he threw a bad pick.
He has the size though.
I'm surprised the coach hasn't called more runs for him.
Inkster's in real trouble today. Lowell just went right down the field.
This is more like it. Inkster is in their two minute offense and throwing a lot. I think before he may have been looking to get in a groove, but running twice and getting a third and long is a hard way to establish a passing game. He is giving off pretty much every time on the zone read, but his designed runs aren't getting him much room to move.
He definitely has an arm, and I am starting to see some of the accuracy. I just haven't seen much of the running aspect of his game yet.
What accuracy? You are killing me. I think this kid is going to end up as a good QB at michigan, but I think you are seeing what you want to see. His line is getting bitch slapped and that is not making life easy for him, but he has looked horrible this game.
I was talking about that drive. He DID show accuracy on that drive. His WR's dropped a few very good balls, and the one bad pass he threw was when he was being swarmed by Lowell.
Yep you can see flashes, Though I didn't like the deep pass when you stepped back instead of stepping into the hit, But that is a hard thing to do. Not many QB's will step into a hit.
If the receiver didn't fall down it still would've been completed. You think he gets that pass away cleanly if he steps into the hit?
No its not that, you just don't want a QB throwing while falling back. You like to see a QB step up into the throw, pressure or not.
You're leaving out the context. It was 4th down, there was one kid in his face and one grabbing his foot. The only way to get that pass down field was to buy some time.
Inkster D can't stop Lowell, and Inkster's O-line is really terrible. Devin's going to need to get some help if they want to pull off the comeback.
I would like to see him run the ball more. Funny thing is he throws just like TP. They both "push" the ball.
Man, from reading this thread I would have thought it was Lowell 45, Inkster 0.
Give it time people, there is a whole half to go.
Why is that everyone is talking about Gardner. Nobody is talking much about the teams or game as a whole.
"Why is that everyone is talking about Gardner."
I'm afraid I'm not fluent in Internet. What are you trying to say?
Why is that? Everyone is talking about Gardner.
But I would have thought you meant "Why is IT that everyone is talking about Gardner and not the game as a whole?"
I see. I'd recommend everyone take a deep breath, remember that Gardner is an amazing player and let him do what he knows how to do in the second half.
You have put up five posts, every one of them talking about Gardner. If you want to talk about other things dealing with the game go ahead. You have the ability to shift the focus of the conversation.
Yeah...? What is your point? I didn't say you cannot shift the focus, I just questioned his post. He said the way the thread was going it sounded as if Inkster was getting killed. I asked how he came to that conclusion when most of the comments from everyone thus far have been about Gardner and not the game as a whole.
for misunderstanding your post, but you can hardly blame me with the way in which it was written.
Inference. Usually it is the way people assume the score or tone of the game based on posts that do not actually convey the score.
This is a University of Michigan sports blog. That's probably a good place to start with trying to understand this. There's a reason nobody is live blogging any other HS football games.
You might check out InksterGoBlog or LowellZone.com for more comprehensive coverage.
the way people are talking sounds like Inkster is getting killed. For those of us poor souls stuck working today can someone give us a little update on the overall game status as well as DG?
Here is your update. Lowell is running a simple dive option offense and is killing Inkster. Their QB is playing great and their defense is putting a ton of pressure on Gardner. Score is 19-6 and counting.
Its 19-6 Lowell at the start of 3rd quarter and Lowell is driving.