OT - How Are You Paying for Your (kids') College?

Submitted by xtramelanin on

Mates,

We are a year out from having the first one go off to college.  

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She is busy researching schools and we were talking tuition and room and board last night.   Uhm.  Yeah.  Things have changed in that regard since when I went to school on a magnitude of about 10X.  When I stopped playing hockey, painting houses all summer was enough to pay for my last two years of tuition and board.  Not so these days!

It is hoped that we would avoid debt of any kind for the kids's school, and so the question is:

How are you/do you plan on paying your kids' college costs?   

Thank you, and hopefully many good ideas are shared.

XM

Michigan Arrogance

August 11th, 2016 at 12:52 PM ^

Back in 2006 when my 1st was born, I bought one full semester of MIs college trust. I also have a few thousand saved in a 529. Unfortunately that all adds up to almost one semester out of state at UM and I have 2 kids. 6-7 years out for the oldest, but the market would have to grow by 30% per year to pay for it all.

Tl;dr I'm screwed



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Hemlock Philosopher

August 11th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^

Feel the same way. 8 years and 10 years out on my two and I fear the thought. We have a 529 for them, but by that time I might as well become an indentured servent at their school of choice. 

In all honesty, I had a wonderful undergrad experience at Michigan, but is it even close to what I went through in the 90s? 

LV Sports Bettor

August 11th, 2016 at 4:38 PM ^

You pay large sums of money so you can hopefully one day make a decent wage as an employee somewhere, ugh.

Take the money you saved for them and give it to them at age 23 so they can have a head start in life with a nest egg to fall back on if things ever get too tough. Spend ages 18-22 investigating and researching with them starting an online business or making money online. This way they can go thru life working remotely while experiencing life to the fullest along with having the huge upside that all of their hard work may pay off in a big way one day down the road.

OR

They can go to school and build up 200k+ in debt to become an employee for somebody that is getting rich off their hard work and who also has all the power to get rid of them for any reason. All of this while being stuck in the same small area of the world the whole time waiting for their 2-3 weeks of vacation each year, no thanks.

huntmich

August 11th, 2016 at 11:08 PM ^

Even with the cost of college as high as it is, it is still one of the best investments a kid can ever make.  Doubly so if they pick a career path that someone will actually pay them for. 

 

Best bang for your buck is engineering. Of course it's also one of the hardest undergrad majors. 

WFBlue

August 11th, 2016 at 12:54 PM ^

Son will be a freshman this fall. Michigan has an interest free payment plan which lets you spread out the payments, though the term of the payments is relatively short.



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Naked Bootlegger

August 11th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^

We're 2 years out and are nervous as all hell.  We've squirreled away significant chunks of $$$ in 529 accounts for our children, but that will come nowhere near covering the cost of out-of-state UM tuition (yes, my oldest child is extremely interested in UM - my fault for watching UM sports so much.  Also, half my wardrobe is Michigan gear).  

I'm also terrified of the FAFSA mocking us for saving so much in 529 accounts, meaning we will not qualify for any financial aid.   As the OP stated, summer jobs won't pay for the tuition bills unlike a few decades ago.   I need to learn more about the FAFSA in the coming years so we can brace ourselves for financial impact.

WolvinLA2

August 11th, 2016 at 2:34 PM ^

We've been doing $300 per month per kid because that's all we can do right now, hoping to up that amount as our income increases over time. We've also encouraged grandparents, god parents, etc to contribute to their 529 plans in place of gifts (or in addition if they want to) for birthdays, baptisms and so on. I'm hoping that if one of them wants to stay in state I may be in OK shape. Or at least where what I'm paying for college isn't more than what I'm paying for private school so my budget doesn't change.

reddogrjw

August 11th, 2016 at 12:56 PM ^

Around $115 of debt for my oldest that just graduated - about $12K in refunds on taxes

 

But she has a full time job and between her and us we'll make sure she is able to become completely self supportive without killer her debt wise

 

The youngest is hitting OCC for an associates degree first - we'll see after that - she is only now becoming serious about school - not gonna drop major bucks on her til she proves herself

AlaskanYeti

August 11th, 2016 at 1:04 PM ^

Careful with that full time job! Once your gross earnings go over a certain limit (~$75,000 /yr I think) you loose that tax refund on accrued student loan debt interest. I don't actually recommend taking less money just to keep the refund, since the long term benefits should outweigh the short term loss of having to work harder with less, but damn it's a sucks when TurboTax lets you know that your ineligible for that tax break!

mgolund

August 11th, 2016 at 12:56 PM ^

Sorry to hear about the upcoming expense. Especially when you start to think about the cost-benefit of a college degree (obviously, depends on field of study, cost, job prospects, etc.).

My wife is a professor. Her university will pay for tuition at that school or at about 35 others. Those schools will be encouraged, but not required. If XM or Mrs. XM (hell, even the kid) can pick up a full-time gig at a local university, you might be able to get a tuition benefit.

I am also saving for my kids' college in 529 plans. That doesn't help you out, XM, but any mgoparents with young kids, you should. Growth is tax free, provided it is used for education.

Gucci Mane

August 11th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^

My parents saved a couple hundred thousand up for me and my siblings college, to bad before we would use it one of the parents decided to go insane and spend it all on gambling, alcohol, and who knows what.

bronxblue

August 11th, 2016 at 12:57 PM ^

we started 529 accounts for our kids when they were born (2013 and 2016), and are putting what we can in. But at the same time, most people I know still have to go into some form of debt. You should definitely look at schools and packages across the spectrum to find the best deal, but I'm a strong believer that a good college education now (costs and all) will pay off in the end if you keep the focus on emerging with useful skills and direction. Doesn't mean you have to bat 1.000 up front, but if you and your kids understand the value of college, short term debt is a fine trade off.

Jack Hammer

August 11th, 2016 at 12:59 PM ^

3 kids. 529. Heavy contributions while kids are toddlers. Like a second mortgage payment heavy. Should be done (assuming catastrophic failure doesn't occur) when kids are still in grade school. Suffer now for freedom later.

Naked Bootlegger

August 11th, 2016 at 1:13 PM ^

Education is free in jail, no?  So let's look at the half-glass-full angle here.

Also, you can still access 529 funds if you don't end up using them.  You'll have to forfeit taxes, etc., but it's not the money is lost in a black hole.   This is the part where I utter the disclaimer to consult your tax attorney or financial advisor or the internet for further details.

SoDak Blues

August 11th, 2016 at 1:19 PM ^

Free jail education - sounds pretty damn good!

Yeah, the whole 10% penalty in addition to income tax steered us towards several different options for planning purposes (in addition to the traditional 529). Plus, I like the idea that it is my money (particularly in the event that my daughter continues to piss me off every morning until she is 18).