OT Game of Thrones S7E1: Dragonstone

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The season 7 premiere is here. Everything that's understood need not be explained. WE DO NOT SOW

Yo_Blue

July 16th, 2017 at 10:20 PM ^

How about Ed Sheeran guesting on GOT?  Of course he was singing.

EDIT: I looked it up and apparently Maisie Williams is a huge fan and the producers have been trying for a couple years to get Ed on the show.

gmoney41

July 17th, 2017 at 8:48 AM ^

The whole ed sheeren cameo was one of the more gimmicky lame things I have seen on tv in a while, especially having him sing. He should have just been a background extra with no lines. It could have been a nice, oh, did you see ed sheeren in the background kind of cameo, but the whole scene took me completely out of the moment and out of the show. Thankfully the rest of the ep was very entertaining but please GoT, no more of that, you're better than that.

gmoney41

July 17th, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^

It's a total gimmick and I had no problem with all of the other cameos for the simple fact that they were all in the background and weren't given songs to sing, and dialogue, and cheesy ass closeups.    If they would have done that with Sheeren, I wouldn't have had a problem as it wouldn't have affected the scene at all.  Hearing his shitty voice and seeing that ultra cheesy closeup of his troll face, completely took me out of the moment, and struck me as a total lame gimmick.  Sorry, but that is some shit they do on way lesser shows.

Pepto Bismol

July 17th, 2017 at 12:34 PM ^

I know there was another band that was cast as Wildlings in one of the earlier seasons.  I couldn't pick them out of a lineup anyway, especially bundled up in wildling clothes.  That was a fun fact.  I never noticed them during the airing and made for a fun easter egg after the fact.  (Googled: The band is Mastadon in S5-E8)

Meanwhile, I was totally distracted by Sheeran.  I did a double-take, looked at my wife who looked perplexed.  I had to pause the show and ask her, "Is that Ed Sheeran?"  She confirmed, then we rewound and started the scene again trying to pretend one of the anonymous soldiers wasn't a pop star.

It was completely distracting and I agree.  I hope that's the last time they do something like that.

ijohnb

July 17th, 2017 at 12:45 PM ^

the completely opposite hand, I know that Ed Sheeran is a musician but I have no idea what he looked like and did not know he was in the scene.  Watching it that way, it was a pretty good and enjoyable scene.  If it had been somebody I recognized, it likely would have been just as distracting.

 

 

TrueBlue2003

July 17th, 2017 at 12:46 PM ^

pop music and whatever the darn kids are into these days.  Had no idea he was anyone.

The scene did seem a little contrived though, overall, so I'm not totally surprised to hear the background of them wanting to "surprise" Maisie with the cameo.  Weird gag though.

mgowill

July 16th, 2017 at 10:48 PM ^

You're right.  That's the guy he robbed when Arya was so pissed at him for doing it.  He was asked by Thoros if he knew them and said, "Not really."  Likely why he felt he had to bury them.  I do hope he doesn't grow much of a conscience though, he's much more fun in that middle ground between savagery and his warped moral code.

Cali's Goin' Blue

July 17th, 2017 at 11:47 AM ^

Ive read the entire book series twice but refuse to pay for HBO(I watch John Oliver clips on youtube and that would be half the reason for HBO), but what the hell has happened to Jaime Lannister since season 5? I remember he got his hand cut off, and then became a good guy, rejecting Cersei, caring about what is right and wrong and all that. But any other new-ish developments? I try not to talk about the show as I am still so excited about the next book, but it's been over 5 years since the last book now and I can't last any longer. This is literally the first time I've read these comment sections(The ones about GoT) or talked to anyone about the new GoT seasons. 

ijohnb

July 17th, 2017 at 12:50 PM ^

died on her way back to Kings Landing from Dorne after being poisoned by the sand snakes.  He took it hard, no question, but I don't think they have "hooked up" since their casket-side encounter after the Purple Wedding, at least on screen.

And I don't really think he is defending her right now, I just think he is trying not get wild-fired by her.  He more or less doesn't have anywhere to go, only has one hand, and cannot inherit anything from his family.  Jamie is just more or less figuring out what the hell to do with himself at this point. 

TrueBlue2003

July 17th, 2017 at 1:53 PM ^

Cersei is getting crazier and crazier and he's still with her but questioning her deeply / teetering on a defection.  Wouldn't be surprised if he joins Tyrion at some point.

BOOK SPOILER ALERT: Jaime's path has been fairly different than the books (i.e. he went to Dorne to rescue Myrcella and watched her die which obviously never happened in the books), and in the show he didn't become estranged from her the way he did in the books after her numerous affairs (which also didn't happen in the show, except with the Lannister cousin).

ijohnb

July 17th, 2017 at 8:27 AM ^

don't think it is that.  The show has used some material from the book and discarded other stuff, but they don't hide crucial elements from the book only to break them out as an unearned "surprise" when the story needs it.  At least they haven't yet and it would surprise me if they did now.  As for the gift, for the reasons I state above, I am worried about our beloved Arya.

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ST3

July 17th, 2017 at 10:20 AM ^

How do you promise a gift of something that you have no clue about? Euron's been on a boat. How does he know where Arya is, or if she's even still alive?

Additionally, he's offering this gift as an enticement to marriage. One little Stark brat does nothing for Cersei's plans to be Queen of the World. I think it's far more likely that the book gift is what he means and Euron zigs when everyone expects him to zag. I'd say more, but don't feel like spoiling things.

ijohnb

July 17th, 2017 at 10:28 AM ^

act as though there are not unexplainable occurences on Game of Thrones, like, all of the time.  The show has not maintained a plausible time line or geography since season 1.  Littlefinger can show up anywhere at any time like he travels in a time machine.

Euron was meeting with Cercei at about the same time that Arya literally told a half dozen Lannister soldiers that she was going to Kings Landing to "kill the queen."  (And those soldiers were all ready responding to a disturbance at the twins where the only witness was told that "the North Remembers.)"  I think it is more plausible than you think it is.

And the spoiler that you are talking about was discussed pretty early in the books.  I don't know what value there would have been in it never being discussed in the show if it was going to be a huge plot point later.

In reply to by ijohnb

ST3

July 17th, 2017 at 11:01 AM ^

What does Cersei need? Gold to pay her army and grain to feed them. How does she get either of those? The answer to that question is the key to determining what the gift is.

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Needs

July 17th, 2017 at 12:58 PM ^

Speaking of unexplainable occurrences, how about that fleet Euron produced from a series of treeless islands?

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TrueBlue2003

July 17th, 2017 at 1:58 PM ^

to the Frey girls, and there was no question who she was.  So word will probably spread fairly quickly that Arya is back in Westeros.

We got a glimpse of (what I'm 99 percent sure was) Nymeria showing her teeth in the scenes from the next episode so the reunification is about to happen.  This is probably the event I've been most anticipating since Grey Wind was cut down by the Frey's.  I need more direwolf in my life. Face-changing Arya AND a pack of 100's of wolves led by Nymeria?  Yes, please.

I don't think Euron's going that way for reason's I explained in my response to your post above though.

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TrueBlue2003

July 17th, 2017 at 4:46 PM ^

I didn't realize he didn't have the horn at the kingsmoot, in the show.  My memory confuses show and books sometimes.  It does seem like if they intentionally did not bring out the horn then (it would have been easy enough to bring it out and explain it), that it won't be part of the show.

But who knows, maybe he still has it. The actor who plays him tweeted this last year: ‘Guys! First of all, this is a fictional character. I am here as an actor to interpret. Yeah, he doesn't have an eye patch. Yeah, he doesn't have the Dragonbinder ... or does he?’”

Although my guess is he doesn't have the horn and he's just trying to keep us guessing with that tweet.

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Perkis-Size Me

July 17th, 2017 at 11:04 AM ^

I'm not sure what Jaime would do. Jaime even told Bronn a season or two back that if he ever saw Tyrion again he would kill him after Tyiron killed their father. 

I do still hold to the belief, though, that as Daenerys begins to sack King's Landing, Jaime will be forced to either kill Cersei or watch as she destroys the city with the remaining wildfire. She's made it clear she doesn't give a rat's ass about the people who live within the city or how many lives she ends. 

Perkis-Size Me

July 17th, 2017 at 10:57 AM ^

Not sure what value Gendry really is to Cersei. I mean sure, he's the last of Robert's bastards so he would have a claim to the throne, but I assume he's been kind of drifting alone for the past 4 seasons. 

No one is really looking for him, no armies fight for him (that we know of), so while I'm sure Cersei would be happy to execute him because its one less person to worry about, she doesn't get much in return for it. 

My guess is either Arya, who appears to be getting a little reckless/arrogant with her escapades, or Tyrion. Arya would be valuable to gain leverage on Jon/Sansa, but Cersei has much more immediate threats than those two. Jon is much more pre-occupied with the White Walkers than he is with dealing with Cersei. 

Tyrion would be infinitely more valuable to Cersei. Not only would she get to personally torture/execute the man she has despised her entire life, but it would cripple Daenerys, who is easily her biggest threat. Cersei would be so blinded by her hatred of Tyrion she would take Euron in without question on that one.

I Bleed Maize N Blue

July 16th, 2017 at 10:53 PM ^

Tell them "The North remembers." Tell them "Winter came for House Frey."

That was SO FUCKING BADASS! Great beginning.

And poor Sam, stuck in Groundhog Day hell. But he decided to make a change. Good on him.

And how about the Hound getting a vision.