OT: Florida doesn't oversign like others in SEC, down to 60 on roster
I realize posting about SEC oversigning providing an advantage is like saying the sky is blue or Denard is fast, but it is interesting to see the comparison of Alabama, LSU, Georgia and Florida in terms of total roster numbers over a four year period over on Doc Saturday.
Alabama and LSU end up with essentially a full roster even with attrition (or forced attrition in those cases to reach the scholly max) by using their shady tactics. Georgia and Florida stick closer to available scholarship numbers and pay the price playing with a much smaller roster. Yes, the conference has made some weak rule changes, but I would have assumed member institutions would have went nuclear on this issue much sooner.
I am glad my team is not in the SEC since that would be absurd to play conference teams who are able create a built in advantage. That Bama game next year is already starting to bother me because of this, but I at least don't get them every year in conference play.
October 27th, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
October 27th, 2011 at 5:15 PM ^
.....that Michigan is not in the SEC. Comprehensive medical benefits, competitive pay and a 401(k) for 95 players would be a drag on the athletic department's bottom line.
October 27th, 2011 at 5:58 PM ^
They pretty much get the medical benefits already, actually.
October 27th, 2011 at 5:17 PM ^
just kidding. I cannot hate Meyer or call him a slimy coach, even after the great campaign of 2006, because he at least stood up against oversigning.
October 27th, 2011 at 5:18 PM ^
I think it's great that we catch them the first game of the season. A lot of teams take time to really fire on all cylinders, and I think Bama next year could be one of them. They lose a lot of players, IIRC.
October 27th, 2011 at 5:20 PM ^
Jeremy Foley, Florida's AD has been pretty outspoken about oversigning issue.
October 27th, 2011 at 5:23 PM ^
All 4 schools lost more than 10 kids (Alabama losing 15!!!) in one year. Across the board those 4 schools lost an average of over a dozen players in one season, then the average dropped to less than half that the next year and has stayed low since then. All 4 schools had half the total attrition of the last 4 years combined all in that one season. Very strange.
October 27th, 2011 at 9:01 PM ^
- 2008 class was eligible for this last draft, 2009 wasn't.
- Since they've been on campus longer, they're more likely to use up all their 'free passes' for breaking rules and were kicked off.
- They've played more, giving them a higher chance of career ending injuries.
- The older players can see they're never going to play, especially if someone younger is ahead of them, and they transfer.
October 27th, 2011 at 6:04 PM ^
UF would be a perfect addition to the B10:
(a) UF is a good academic school and, increasingly, seems frustrated with the SEC's "win-at-all-costs" approach.
(b) UF would give the B10 a conference opponent in a warm-weather state for early season baseball and golf.
(c) UF is one of the few schools that would add enough "value" to the B10 to generate more money for everyone.
(d) The B10 has its own network and, for that reason, currently can offer UF more money than the SEC along with an ownership stake in BTN.
(e) If the SEC ever expands to 16, one of the more likely candidates is FSU. A move by FL to the B10 would eliminate any possibilty of a second school from the Florida in its conference.
(f) If necessary, the B10 also should be willing to take UGA (UF's principal rival). UGA is not quite as good a "get" as UF, but it would be a very good all-around addition to the B10 and would make the move by UF smoother.
(g) If UGA declines, the B10 might be able to convince UT or ND to join on a 100% equal footing in combination with a program such as UF. The resulting conference would be so much more valuable than any other, such an offer would be difficult to turn down.
October 27th, 2011 at 6:04 PM ^
October 27th, 2011 at 6:10 PM ^
You are reading my mind. Road trips - and not crappy ones to West Lafayette.
October 27th, 2011 at 7:29 PM ^
My sister lived there before moving to Auburn. Athens is MUCH nicer and she's trying to move back.
I didn't realize the B10 paid more money, but the stats I found (2008) show about a half-million dollar gap between the SEC & B10.
October 28th, 2011 at 3:20 AM ^
i like the idea and even more the plans and support you give, but travel costs are too much for non-revenue sports to make it even remotely realisitc.
would be more realistic to see a rutgers+tennesee or louisiville expansion, but with tennesee gettling slapped around by the NCAA thats even a HUGE reach.
October 28th, 2011 at 6:15 AM ^
Ohio would be pissed about this. How do you expect them to beat a former SEC school?
October 27th, 2011 at 6:32 PM ^
I guess I'm old but it makes me cringe to think of how geographically fucked up football is now.
October 27th, 2011 at 8:33 PM ^
if Delaney were to get hit by a truck could you please step in?
October 28th, 2011 at 12:01 PM ^
Part of Florida's attrition can probably be attributed to their hiring a coach to dismantle an offense that got them two national championships. They did this because of alumni pressure to build a team around the strengths of double-legacy QB John Brantley. Football players aren't stupid, and their BS detectors work just fine.
We saw what attrition can do at Michigan in a conference like the Big Ten. Suddenly, teams that you used to wipe the floor with are pushing you up and down the field. It's even worse in the SEC. The margins for error are a lot smaller. Florida could be on a downward spiral for a few years.
With Florida, Miami, and FSU all having disappointing seasons, this year is a great opportunity for smaller instate schools (USF, UCF, and even FAU) and national powerhouses to recruit the state. A lot of kids who would have been locks for any of the big three schools are probably "ripe for the picking."
October 28th, 2011 at 3:47 PM ^
Good for Florida. The funny thing is, neither Georgia nor Florida have to over-recruit because those states tend to have a wealth of talent (esp. Florida) to stay competitive. It's schools in states like Miss, Alabama, and LA that need to oversign because the talent level isn't high enough to just keep pumping in top talent every year. I know that there are stats showing certain states (I think LA is one) that produce an over-abundance of NFL talent per capita, but ovverall they still struggle to keep their teams "competitive" and, not surprisingly, have to default to this behavior.