OT: For First Time in 80 Years, No MSU Player Drafted
Oh, Sparty. First you lose a basketball commit that was never going to play for your school anyway, and then you go through an entire NFL draft without seeing one of your players drafted for the first time in 80 years. It's been a bad week on the banks of the the Red Cedar.
LINK.
In related news, Michigan and Southern Cal remain tied for the longest NFL Draft string, at 83 years.
From Chris Vannini :
Longest active NFL Draft streaks, coming out of the 2021 draft:
Michigan / USC (1939)
Florida (1952)
Miami (Fla.) (1975)
Notre Dame* / Iowa (1978)
Wisconsin (1979)
*Notre Dame would be 1938 if you include the 1977 Supplemental Draft
Michigan State’s streak dating back to 1941 ended this year.
****EDIT: Having lived through those RichRod years, this surprises me
Yet they still beat our ass.
Why is this Matt Patricia clone “coach oz” tweeting about this before ever coaching a game? Just giving up hope of winning anything of significance on the field?
"But our CBs improved from that all-time terrible performance!"
Someone want to explain how we have so many players drafted and still lost to them?
Coaching.
. . . lack thereof.
Michigan Football.
Doing less with more for a solid 20 years now it seems. #LeadersAndBest
60 years.
Bo never won a national title despite having numerous opportunities and elite teams.
1/2 a national title since the WWII era. Compared to other "traditional powerhouses", I'd say we're the champs of doing less with more for quite some time.
That's harsh. at one point Bo lost four games in five years, including only two in conference. If you want to take the position that it's win-or-nothing, fair enough, but to describe him as being part of a 60-year tradition of "doing less with more," reflects ... a remarkably high standard. At least ... I'd be pretty satisfied with four losses in five years. I don't ask for more than that.
Actually, I'll go a bit further than that. I'd say, traditionally, we do exactly what we should be doing with the talent we get. Even under Harbaugh, I'd imagine (without checking) that our record and results are, on balance, better than everybody else in the Big Ten East ... except Ohio State. Which is exactly where our recruiting says we should be.
I'm frustrated too -- last year broke me, and I'm in the "time for Harbaugh to go" camp. But ... the suggestion that other teams are doing more with less than we are, is incorrect. We're in the same division as Ohio State. Our dumb luck.
How can our record in the Big Ten East be where it's supposed to be when we've finished higher than 3rd one time?
We're 3-3 against MSU, 3-3 against PSU, and 2-3 against Wisconsin.
Fair enough. As I said, I hadn't checked. I had assumed we had a better record since Harbaugh's arrival than both MSU and Penn State. In fact, it looks like, not counting last year, we have exactly the same record as Penn State since Harbaugh's arrival. (On the other hand, we actually finished 4.5 games ahead of them in his first year -- you take that season away, and we're 4.5 games behind).
In any event, yes, I've lost all confidence in Harbaugh as well. Still, hoping to be remarkably surprised this year! C'mon, Jim ... shock me!
Obviously Harbaugh has underwhelmed, but part of the problem is Wisconsin has been on the schedule almost every year. He'd probably be better than 2-3 against literally anyone else. Would be nice if those 3 conference losses were games against Illinois instead.
Those weren't even Bo's better teams. They didnt play anyone until OSU and lost to OSU most of those years.
Our non-conference schedules weren't that bad.
- 1970: Washington (ranked), Arizona, and Texas A&M.
- 1971: Virginia, UCLA, and Navy
- 1972: At No. 6 UCLA, #18 Tulane(!), and Navy
- 1973: Stanford, Navy, Oregon.
- 1974: Colorado, Navy, and Stanford
I agree, it's hardly Alabama, Notre Dame, and USC, but ... it ain't the little sisters of the poor either.
Yeah, the Big Ten was pretty weak back then (though I think all of college football was pretty stratified at that point), but ... we didn't suck.
Well considering the only year we even played a ranked opponent of any of those was 1972 I would say they're pretty bad. Washington wasnt ranked in 1970.
It wasn't 1/2 a national championship, we were ranked 1 by the AP and Nebraska 2. We just weren't the consensus MNC
Yet somehow running its collective mouth more than any team in the conference.
The same way Brady Hoke beat Mark Dantonio
Could it be that most of the player drafted, sat out last year.. it’s not hard to understand.
First of all we only had two sit out. Two were injured and we were already losing when they were injured, and either way you slice we had multiple NFL players on the field at any given time compared to their zero...
Someone want to explain how we have so many players drafted and still lost to them?
Two names:
Josh Gattis
Brian Jean-Mary
LOL shit, talk about adding insult to injury.
Yeah go ahead and talk shit about a program that came into our house with a decimated roster we shit on all offseason, and then proceeded to out-coach and out-smart Harbaugh and Co. from the first snap on.
What’s even more infuriating is that MSU/ Mel Tucker didn’t even do anything overly-brilliant— he literally just had noodle-arm Rocky Lombardi throw it over and over again to some nobody receiver whose name I can’t even remember, and Michigan had seemingly no answer and made no adjustments. Just a completely embarrassing overall failure.
But wouldn't you say that is brilliant? Isn't that what a good coaching staff should do? Recognize what is happening and make the necessary adjustments and hammer it over and over again until the other side adjusts back?
I don't think Mel Tucker is some genius; however, their coaching staff ran circles around Harbaugh that day.
Nah.
I don't know I would say that it's brilliant. It's logical I suppose - if it keeps working, continue to do it until it doesn't work anymore.
The fact Michigan could not figure out how to keep Rocky Lombardi and some random freshman receiver from looking like Brady to Moss is truly inexplicable. It almost seems like a defense with the talent level of Michigan's would have to literally stop trying to allow that to happen.
Brilliant, fine, don't have to call it that.
But they were the better coaching staff that day.
A nickel’s worth of common sense beat staggering incompetence.
If you saw brilliance in that, you live a sad life of very low standards.
Harbaugh's other MSU loss a couple years ago - when there was clearly bad weather inbound and the coaches didn't bother to try to score until after neither team could throw - was the absolute nadir of game planning from Harbaugh's staff.
I swear to the Almighty Spaghetti Monstrosity that we play MSU like the games are 20 quarters long and any deficit can be made up in the last 30 seconds.
It wasn't just that, you have to remember that even when Lombardi couldn't complete a pass that a B1G official was right there to help out with a pass interference flag.
And then we limped to a 2-4 record before mercifully escaping our final three opponents. Our social media guys probably shouldn't be throwing rocks.
Somehow this team also beat NW, Big 10 West champion and a team that gave OSU a ton of trouble in the championship game. A weird year all around. Still probably the worst loss in Harbaugh's tenure at UM.
I would like to add that of the 7 UM players drafted this year, 3 sat out 2020 completely. And both Paye and Mayfield missed significant chunks of the season due to injury. It was a year where a lot of UM's top-level talent wasn't on the field nearly as much as you'd have liked.
And McCaffrey transferred before the season.
Because someone thought it was a good idea to make Joe Milton the #1 QB.
This is what the fans of our program gloat over now?
Good f'ing christ- you guys can see why I give all my effort to hoops now.
It was a fireball.
That is fun, but let's just go ahead and beat them consistently.
There is a self own element of this anecdote for Michigan.
Knock on wood
I can only assume you were born after October 31, 2020. What an embarrassing thing to celebrate as a Michigan fan.
Their undrafted talent beat our drafted talent last year. Shitty post.
Harbaugh should have been fired on the sidelines after that game and been escorted from the stadium. What a joke.
Man, that really was a joke. I'm not the kind of fan who says this, normally, but it sure felt like *I* could have taken over on the sidelines and won that game. I don't know what happened to Harbaugh and Don Brown, but it felt like a shared aneurysm. Watching it was ... among the most bewildering and frustrating experiences this long-time fan has ever had watching a Michigan game.
If college football worked the way every other job in the world works, Harbaugh would have been called into the AD's office and read the riot act after that game. Not necessarily fired, but ... Warde Manuel should have called him in and demanded a full explanation of what the f**k happened.
I think that's what killed me. There was no sense that the athletic department or the football team ever acknowledged the seriousness of what that game revealed. It was treated like an aberration. But those of us watching it knew it was no aberration. It wasn't an accident. It wasn't a fluke last-second play. It was a failure, through and through. It was ... revelatory.
And it was ignored.
i think this gets an asterisk and I blame the coronavirus.
Ambry wasn't bailing out the team last season.