OT : Bronny James suffers cardiac arrest at USC practice, is in stable condition
Don’t know much more than that, it’s on CNN right now. What a scary thing for the family, too, and for any players who were there when it happened. Hope he fully recovers and can continue his playing career.
Damn... Speedy recovery kid.
Out of the ICU and stable, thankfully!
I can't stand Fox News!
They don't let me view their website unless I disable my adblocker. You're not going to get me this time!
Most important thing is that he is okay.
Far down is whether he can basketball again.
Just a sad and catastrophic event to hit the James family. Prayers up.
If he's already out of the ICU, things aren't that bad. Not being able to play BB is hardly catastrophic.
Come on man. Are you the catastrophic police? I'm sure it has been a nightmare for the James family. Is that better?
If I was Bronny or any other athlete who had been working toward this since I was in diapers, and my father was one of the greatest players that ever played, and I was in the national media and had the expectation that I would follow in his footsteps and then it was all taken away because of some unknown heart condition, it would be pretty catastrophic for me and my identity.
Bingo.
He is out of the ICU already because he received prompt effective resuscitation. out of hospital arrest is rarely survived. what is catastrophic is if he has a condition that makes spontaneous sudden cardiac arrest a reality for him. never-mind the basketball aspect, this could be a life altering situation. Your assertion that things aren’t that bad because he seems to have made it through this is misinformed at best.
a high school athlete having a heart attack is pretty fucking catastrophic
He’s a freshman at USC but nonetheless still catastrophic.
Shocking, hope he makes a complete recovery and is back on the court.
Heard about it while listening to Dan Patrick this morning. Crazy.
Best of luck to Bronny, speedy recovery kid!
I can’t believe how many idiots on social media are jumping to “iT wAs tHe VaCcInE” when there are 1000s of college basketball players and this is the first time this has happened since like Keyontae Johnson? Cardiac events happen in sports. Hope Bronny heals up and can continue his basketball career
Back in my day we shook our heads and rolled our eyes at the idiots and then went about our day.
You can’t believe it? It’s a standard part of the MAGA world these days.
No politics…
No politics that go against the common narrative of this blog
FTFY
Leave all the GMO eating vaccine haters alone. They are obviously the smart ones out there that know exactly what they're putting in their bodies.
I have little to no love for Monsanto and others, but many (not all) GMOs were a huge net benefit in agriculture with regards to yield, enhanced nutrient content, reduced cost etc.
If we want this world to eat more vegetables, we'll likely need more GMOs to get it done.
Again, I'm not saying all GMOs are good, I'm just saying not all GMOs are bad.
On balance, they're tremendously good!
I'd argue that basically everything eaten by humans has been domesticated to some degree, and is therefore "GMO." People act like the generations of deliberate husbandry and hybrid breeding practiced by humans since the dawn of agriculture is somehow NOT "genetic modification."
Fossil records show humans became physically shorter, smaller, weaker, and had much poorer dental health as agriculture practices began (just ask your local physical Anthropologist!). The purported upside was an increase in population which led larger numbers of people who could then violently exterminate/conquer the physically bigger, taller, healthier, but less numerous hunter-gatherers.
And yes, we've been selecting for crops for thousands of years, and in the short-run GMO's have provided, again, a sort of proliferation, but long-term, we do not know what the effects will be.
Our human selection-process and hybridization has a much softer-GMO impact, like dog-breeding, whereas GMOs (which should really be called Genetic Engineering & GEO's: Genetically Engineered Organism--branding/propaganda is a very important tool in advertising and compliance), is a stronger-GMO, because it deals with genetically engineering DNA by replacing certain genes with foreign DNA itself.
There's no doubt that that type of engineering is far riskier than Natural Selection as it massively shortcuts all sort of steps in a Billions-of-years-old complex system (IVF, C-section, are also great examples of bypassing complex systems that some find disagreeable, in favor of words, desires, and ideas, which both demonstrably have poorer health outcomes than natural conception).
It is incorrect to equate them.
The claims around less healthy outcomes for early farmers focused mostly on the "early" part of the transition, which makes sense as people did a lot of trail-and-error to figure out the optimal food production methods both in terms of planting crops as well as animal husbandry. The hunter-gatherer/forager way of life had its strengths and weaknesses, and trying to claim one is better than the other feels reductive. The fact that more survived on this "worse" diet points to perhaps the hunter-gatherer model working for a subset of the population while being far less beneficial for the larger population, creating a bit of a survivor bias especially when you consider that mortality amongst younger individuals was also high.
There are heavy genetic components as well, as factors like height tend to have a strong genetic component (~80%) in addition to any nutritional element. And most of these studies were, for obvious temporal reasons, limited in the sample sizes they could pull from (from the PNAS article I linked to they had a sample size of 167 individuals over almost 36,000 years) so again we're dealing with a limited sample size.
I'm honestly not quite sure about whatever distinction you're trying to make about GMO vs. GEO as it relates to food production on farms but I'm also not dying to have that conversation. And good lord I have no idea why you're trying to equate IVF and C-sections, since the prior has existed from the 1960s and 70s while the latter has existed for, conservatively, hundreds of years and has mostly been used as a last-ditch effort to save the child and/or mother's lives. Yes, there has been an uptick in "avoidable"/elective C-Sections but that's a cultural decision that (shockingly) driven by doctors and hospitals pushing for them for financial reasons. So yeah, maybe a bit less about individuals getting the icks from child birth and more about (mostly) men wanting to get money from women in precarious situations as quickly as possible.
but I'm also not dying to have that conversation.
*proceeds to write paragraphs*
You write so much yet say so little.
You project things I never said, and then attack them as if they were posited, Don Quixote, except he was funny.
You've made so many conjectures it would be a waste of my own time to respond. You're dull and lack the ability to think critically, which you conflate with writing deluge.
There are heavy genetic components as well, as factors like height tend to have a strong genetic component (~80%) in addition to any nutritional element.
This is drivel. Learn to re-read what you write. It will help your thinking, because clearly it needs help.
I could pull more quotes but starting with the basics is more important.
There's nothing wrong with husbandry and hybrids. Most of our common fruits and vegetables are hybrids of some sort.
But that's not really what GMOs are. GMOs aren't being widely used to create more nutritious or better tasting varieties of fruits or vegetables. Commercial GMOs are almost exclusively used to allow greater quantities of glyphospate (a herbicide) to be sprayed on crops. More herbicides help increase crop yields, but are glyphosate is rapidly being banned across Europe due to the fact of glyphosate being linked to cancer, and because of its known detrimental impact on bee and insect populations.
Basically every citrus we eat is a GMO
GMO is fine- Monsanto Roundup (Glyphosate) being included when we eat vegetables is not acceptable.
it may or may not have been from a vaccine, but shouldn't that be on the table instead of being outright dismissed?
Any good Dr would not dismiss it. My daughter had a bad reaction to the flu shot last year, but the flu shot is not politicized like the COVID vaccine is.
Cardiac arrest and myocarditis are not the same thing.
The vanishingly small number of people who develop myocarditis after the vaccine see it present and go away within a short time after vaccination.
Exercise-induced cardiac arrest is a known issue in athletes, which is why I've had to take courses on it every two years for nearly two decades as a high school coach.
You are right, they are not the same thing. But they are related.
With regards to exercise-induced cardiac arrest, it happens way less in athletes compared to the remainder of the population (which shouldn't be a surprise). So when it does happen, often the root cause is something significant, like a genetic defect or myocarditis.
And any athlete at a school like USC would know if they had myocarditis severe enough to cause a cardiac arrest.
As Bronny also has one of the wealthiest athletes in history as a parent, we can safely assume that between his childhood and matriculation at one of the largest universities in the country that he has had more than enough medical examinations to discover any hint of myocarditis, let alone a case severe enough to cause a heart attack.
With that out the way, speculating that a vaccine that he would have received months and/or years ago could have possibly caused severe enough myocarditis to cause a cardiac arrest is a talking point for trolls, the incurably stupid, and ideologues.
I'm not trying to argue, but most cases of myocarditis are acute, which means the condition is short-lived and hard to prevent. Most cases come and go without incident. So regardless of money, Bronny could get myocarditis from something without anyone knowing.
He sure could have. But I will bet you anything you like he didn't get it from a Covid vaccine. Because he wouldn't have gotten one recently.
And yet, myocarditis can cause scar tissue...on the heart. You should stay quiet calling others stupid while don't know.
Let’s speculate about things we feel appropriate so we call them assumptions then broadly dismiss speculation that doesn’t fit our assumptions in the same post and label them all as stupid
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That's not the science we want you following.
Why did I read that in an Obi-wan Kenobi voice?
…or perhaps from previous Covid-19 infection.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.122.059970
I think the people on Twitter jumping to conclusion that it could be Covid aren't doing any favors. However, Covid is first and foremost a cardiac disease since it binds to Ace 2 receptors. So if someone wants to throw out the vaccine possibility it's scientifically more likely it's from Covid itself. Or we could just wish him and his family the best and hold our wild speculations to ourselves.
The issue is not whether to put it on the table. The issue is putting *only* it on the table suggesting there's real reason to think the vaccine was the cause when it could be any number of things. Why aren't there as many comments asking whether COVID itself caused it? Not a criticism of you personally but just pointing out why the anti vaxxers annoy the rest of us. Not to mention the anti vax anti science movement is causing serious harm by reducing vaccination rates (especially in children) of more serious diseases
and aliens--shouldn't they be suspects, if everything is on the table.
A little fairy may have stolen my headphones because I can’t find them. Shouldnt that be on the table instead of being outright dismissed? /s
It is something to look at considering
"Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times"
oh.
Do you happen to have any info to dismiss the data collected by the United States military on their own soldiers? I'd love to look at it.
Are either of these an approved source to reference?
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0
I don't know of anyone aged 12 to 17 in the US military, where increases were highest.
Moreover, you're suggesting that this is something that "should be looked into" despite having no basis on whether the increase warrants further exploration - we could see an increase in myocarditis after a full moon, for example, but that doesn't mean it's some kind of public health crisis like you're purporting it to be.
Your Nature Medicine link points out that the increased incidence of myocarditis in the worst case (mRNA-1273 vaccine) is 16 per million and without it (ie from Covid itself) as 40 per million.
Failure to vaccinate is much more likely the cause of myocarditis than vaccination.