OT: 5* Swanigan Still Hasn't Signed With Sparty
A month after committing, 5* Caleb Swanigan stil hasn't signed with MSU. Izzo addressed the situation without mentioning his name, and said he's not worried. But it sounds like they've got another Malik McDowell situation on their hand. Dad is apparently balking at signing the LOI.
http://www.mlive.com/spartans/index.ssf/2015/05/tom_izzo_says_final_fou…
If you are an athlete just sign the financial aid forms. LOI's were designed by the NCAA. The school benefits, but not the athlete. Ask Mikey Weber.
This is a sample NLI (it's a few years old, but the letter and provision in it haven't changed significantly) from a site that provides information on scholarships and recruitment, in the event that there is anyone here that has never read one - LINK
If there was ever a letter that begged you not to sign it, it is the NLI. I'll put it like that.
should love this. The NLI grants all of the authority and restrictions to the powers above once a young 17-18 year old signs this. A very convenient mechanism/instrument used by the NCAA. I feel bad for the kids that get taken adavantage of by the NLI.
I read the contract, briefly. I miss the part where there is any consideration given to the other party. For it to be a legal contract, doesn't there need to be consideration for both parties?
but we allow because...NCAA?
What could possibly go wrong? Why would anyone question them? I still don't know how they are a viable organization? Well, yes I do, MONEY!
Hence the grey shirts that are rampant in the SEC. I really think there is no benefit.
Read the NLI and let me know where it guarantees them a scholarship once they sign.
I'm no lawyer and may be just completely missing it, but I don't see it guaranteeing anything. The Finacial Aid Agreement does, and while signing that is part of the NLI, the NLI itself doesn't seem to guarantee jack squat for the student athelete.
but I wouldn't make much of it. Dude will probably sign eventually.
Everyone thought he was going to Cal but he surprised them by going Sparty. That would have been a huge get for Cal considering their remaining class.
You know, like... have any crystal balls swung in our direction?
Just a couple of furry ones
Words of advice for Caleb:
RUN, don't walk, away from sparty and come to Ann Arbor!
And someone wants him to think about it.
Kind of like how Brown all but committed to Kentucky -- whoops, not so fast says AAU coach -- how about Cal. I know it's looked down upon to insinuate "pay for play", but the parallels here seem kind of odd.
Either way, I could go for him not being at MSU next year (and possibly for a few years after that).
That would be amazing.
Man, think of the mileage Izzo could get from that one
4 years later "Well it's tough losing like that. You don't want to blame people but I blame Caleb Swanigan for ruining our program. I'm faultless, but even I can't handle such a ruthless gutting of our team"
not surprised....Roosevelt Barnes, former Purdue standout, is his legal guardian. Swanigan moved to Ft Wayne from Salt Lake City in 8th Grade to live with Barnes; who was a Detroit Lion and an NFL agent.
so it makes sense...
I know Spartan fans are convinced that Harbaugh's hiring of Wayne Lyons mother (Gwendlyon Bush) reeks of impropriety, but they obviously do not think that a kid whose legal guardian happens to be a top NFL sports agent gives cause for concern.
Is there anything shady with how he became his legal guardian? If there is, this is a pretty effed up way to avoid the NCAA's prohibition on professional representation. If it is a shady situation it's a savy move right now since he knows enough to not have Swanigan sign the LOI, but it could get fun down the line with the NBA contract.
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Perhaps with Brown joining Rabb at Cal that has Swanigan reconsidering his choice. The three of them are apparently pretty good friends from the AAU circuit. Besides Swanigan was projected to go Cal.
Maybe Swanigan committed to MSU because he thought Brown was going to come here or UK. Now that him and Rabb are at Cal he follows suit.
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Maybe he ends up at Cal. That'd be nice.
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That would be awesome if he ended up at Cal. Izzo would start going all angry elf and start turning tables over if that happened.
There's a chance?
What is this recent fixation with Cal and good recruits? They're a pretty awful program with a coach who left Tennessee with an NIT loss to Mercer at home.
They haven't been to an Elite Eight in over 50 years. It was also the last time OSU won a national championship (lulz).
Long story short, there were a lot of coincidental factors contributing to these two recruiting wins, and none of them are related to Cal's program or their coach.
didn't he leave Tennessee with a hard fought loss to us in the Sweet 16?
1. For Swanigan at least, Cuonzo Martin was a Boilermaker, along with his guardian...so there's that relationship. Probably also sees him as a charismatic coach who can get him to the NBA, Martin did play in the league.
2. Cal's a good school if you wanted to go back and get your degree later
3. California (Bay Area, but still beats Midwest for many people)
4. Friends playing there
5. WIth 4, has chance to be damn good right away and create a legacy. Cal's going to be really damn good next year, may as well posse up and try and win a championship. For some the history doesn't matter much.
that would be Duke who lost to Mercer. Are you thinking maybe Coach K needs to step down because of that loss :-)
Swanigan just took the Tweet about being committed to MSU
Looks like a real possibility he ends up at Cal or Kentucky
meltdown and an angry elf on the prowl.
When did Cal turn into "Prestige Worldwide?" Proximity to the Catalina Wine Mixer?
Something fishy out there.
I can understand the blue boods (Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Kansas, etc) of basketball pulling in most of the top recruits year in and year out.
Now, Cal comes out of no where and all of a sudden in Basketball U ?!
some reason, as a Michigan basketball fan, it all sounds so eerily familiar......
A big name commits and suddenly you get more. That is even more true today with the AAU circuit the way it is. It doesn't mean there is any impropriety. Juwan commiting to Michigan was the impetus for the others to do so. And only 1 of the Fab Five took improper benefits--and that was apparently after his recruiting--not a quid pro quo.
money too, not big money, but he did.
I think Juwan signing was the impetus for Jimmy to sign due to their official visits occuring at the same time. It was Jackson's best scholarship offer by far, so I don't think his commitment is that big of a mystery.
As for as Jalen and Chris, well, count me as one person who doesn't think we have heard the "rest of the story."
You'll need to source that one for me. I know he said people would buy him pizza and the like (I believe even Mitch Albom said he did), but I don't recall him ever getting anything more or anything that was part of the NCAA punishment.
Jalen Rose - Fab Five documentary.
Specific statement - "I took money." Followed by charming Jalen grin.
for pizza and the like. Rewatch it. And nothing related to his recruitment and commitment.
Perry Watson got a nice assistant's job for "delivering" Rose and Webber.
that may be true about Rose, who, of course, denies it. But Webber's recruiting was much more complicated than that and delivered is far over-stated for Chris/Perry.
A legendary and excellent coach...he didn't get the job because of "delivered" players.
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