Open Thread: NCAA Hockey Early Games (MSU vs Union 3pm) (Ferris vs Denver 5:30pm)

Submitted by Fhshockey112002 on

Have at it guys, first game has very little impact unless Michigan meets Union in the National Semi Finals.

The second game starts at 5:30 and the winner advances to face the winner of Michigan/Cornell.

Union vs MSU is on ESPNU but, www.espn3.com has all the coverage

justingoblue

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:17 PM ^

As long as I can watch in HD, I'm happy. I don't know what state of mind I would have to be in to pay a lot of attention to Melrose's interpretation of the game, but this Yoohoo isn't going to get me there, so I'm all good.

justingoblue

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:25 PM ^

Takes a lot of balls to hit a guy between the numbers when he has his head down.

Solid call by the referee. Chelios needs to learn to control his hits and not attempt to kill his team's chances at an upset.

mfan_in_ohio

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:28 PM ^

Hits to the head are a point of emphasis.  The Union player had his back to Chelios and his head down; he was defenseless.  Chelios finished the hit and drove the Union player's head into the boards.  This is exactly what the NCAA is trying to prevent, and the 5 minute majors for stuff like this have been pretty common.  I wasn't sure if they'd give him the game DQ, but it wasn't surprising.

justingoblue

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:37 PM ^

A generic major penalty doesn't require a game misconduct or disqualification (Merrill's boarding last week is an example). A checking from behind major requires either a game misconduct or a game disqualification.

I just opened up the rulebook if you want some NCAA rule examples verbatim when I can open it.

douggoblue

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:39 PM ^

That definitely looks like a puck in the net, can't believe it took these yahoos more than one look to see it. May have been played with a high stick.

hockeyguy9125

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:40 PM ^

does the ref, who is right behind the net, not see that puck hit the inside of the net?

its not like he was in the corner, he was standing right behind the net...that is inexcusable

mfan_in_ohio

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:45 PM ^

Must have been a high stick. 

EDIT: the net was dislodged?  That's a terrible call.  Also, you'd think the ref standing RIGHT BEHIND THE NET would have noticed it.  I guess the CCHA hasn't cornered the market on derpy officials.

hockeyguy9125

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:43 PM ^

they had to have said the net moved prior to the puck crossing the line...either way, MSU was screwed EDIT: that was the ruling

that should be a penalty to Union for knocking the net off

justingoblue

March 23rd, 2012 at 4:05 PM ^

Is it really a bad rule, though? I think it would be worse if we relied on a referee eyeballing where the goal frame would be if it were flat on the ice.

If the goal cage has been moved or dislodged. The goal frame is considered to be displaced if any portion of the goal frame is not in its proper position (e.g., frame must be completely flat on the ice surface, goal posts must be in proper place and affixed securely in place with its pegs)

Remember, if Union had displaced the net, the referee has the authority to award a goal if he feels the puck entering the net is "imminent" (and it's a penalty even if the goal isn't awarded).

South Bend Wolverine

March 23rd, 2012 at 6:23 PM ^

I agree on this one.  By and large, I favor rules that are objective rather than subjective.  The net being off is something I can tell by looking at the video and no one can debate it.  Same thing goes for the anything off the skate vs. distinct kicking motion debate in my mind, and probably should be the same for the the ball hit the ground but he had possession issue.  Yes, these objective standards lead to frustration at times, but they're much less subject to officials' whims.  And once we start letting officials' whims decide things, we get the intent to blow rule. (Bonus: Gongshow officials ALWAYS intend to blow.)

Alton

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:49 PM ^

A goal shall not be allowed "If the goal cage has been moved or dislodged.  The goal frame is considered to be displaced if any portion of the goal frame is not in its proper position (e.g., frame must be completely flat on the ice surface, goal posts must be in proper place and affixed securely in place with its pegs)." [Rule 6-18-c-12]

Even though it was on its pegs, the frame was not in its proper position when the puck entered the net.

rtsannes62992

March 23rd, 2012 at 3:56 PM ^

Wow, kind of feel for Sparty. We've been screwed over and had goals taken away in this tourney before. Hopefully they can knot it up so it negates the mess up.

Fhshockey112002

March 23rd, 2012 at 4:08 PM ^

Especially since Union's total enrollment is 2,000 students.  They could bus their entire school to Bridgeport and only fill a couple sections.  MSU is 15+ hour drive (unless you go through Canada) so makes it tough to get any sort of attendance. 

I would expect a decent crowd for the UMass Lowell Game.