Ohio closes all schools for 3 weeks, effective Monday
It's not safe for the next 3 weeks, but tomorrow is still okay.
Makes perfect sense.
I thought this exact same thing when my wife told me.
They're already hearing it from people scrambling to get childcare arranged. If they did it tomorrow, it would be pandemonium. I'm lucky that I can work from home. My kids are going to be real pissed, though. We cancelled our Florida trip today.
Almost all kids can stay home alone. Just need to be about 7+ or have a sibling who is. Yes it’s gonna suck for the small amount of people with kids in maybe first grade who are right in the edge of needing a baby sitter. But for most people just leave your kids alone and check up on them frequently.
Small amount ?
There are roughly 60 Million Elementary school kids in the US.about 45 Million kids between the ages of 4-8 (including pre schools)
Im guessing Ohio probably has close to a million kids in Elementary schools
7????
I can't recall exactly what age when my parents first let me stay home alone - much less for hours at a time - but I know it wasn't even close to 7.
More like 11 years old for an hour at a time, and 13 years old for 6 hours.
Crap I am old. At 11 I came home close to "dark". We were often about 5 miles from home back when phones were rotary dial.
Crap I am old. At 11 I came home close to "dark". We were often about 5 miles from home back when phones were rotary dial. Of course my kids couldn't ride their bikes down the same street I grew up on now with essentially the same amount of traffic 20 years later.
13 for 6 hours lol ??? I was home alone at 7-8. I did once grab a steak knife and tell my little sister I was gonna cut her head off. Now that was regrettable. But somehow we did not die !
i live in central ohio and we have been getting updates daily from our childrens school system for a week or better telling us to arrange alternate childcare and for the kids to bring home all supplies every night not knowing when the last day was going to be. tomorrow i assume is to allow teachers a chance to explain to students how any work required during the leave is to be accomplished.
In every state, low income families often rely on schools to provide meals for children. Same reason why urban school districts are generally the last to declare snow days.
It’s unfortunate, but in a lot of ways the response to this is a choice between the elderly and the poor. The long-term economic impact will be devastating and likely deadly for a lot of people around the world. Really sad stuff.
Because it’s not really about the risk to the kids tomorrow, but about practicing social distancing going forward. Families need a few days to get childcare arrangements worked out first.
They are still recommending that all schools in Michigan to “not” close. This will not last long IMO. The political pressure is gonna win out once the cases are tied to students.
Yes, it's the domino affect. Will Martial Law be forthcoming?
Better fckin' not be...
This isn't political and it really isn't even all about the kids. It's to stop movement of all the moving parts of schools-- teachers, cafeteria workers, bus drivers, and kids etc. It involves a lot of people. This allows all of those people to stay home and away from each other and thus slow the spread.
Going to suck for those parents trying to figure out what to do with their kids
My wife is going to go insane.
SAHM with 6 kids for 3 weeks.
Hoping my office stays open. Does this make me a bad person? Maybe.
If you are going “insane” by spending time with your kids then fuck you ! I’m offending a father would say something like that.
It stretches further than that. The summer tourism season in Northern Michigan is going to take a real beating with the coming school closings everywhere. These kids will need to make up the missed time, and that's going to come during the summer.
They won't make up the time. Since the state sets the amount of instructional days, they will "forgive" the lost time.
No doubt...if they can forgive snow days (like last year) they can certainly forgive Covid-19 worldwide pandemic days.
And there will be - at least an attempt - at delivering instruction online.
I think days closed as the result of a declared state of emergency do not count. This is what everyone told me last year during the polar vortex.
Many Ohio schools (maybe all?) have a certain number of school hours required, not a number of days. Even with the school closed for the next three weeks, we only need the hours for 16 more school days to meet the required number.
Dilemma with closing the schools is how many health care workers will it take out of circulation because they have to be home with their kids.
The other big problem is backup childcare (assuming daycares close with schools) for a lot of families is grandparents. Not sure that’s a safe route right now...
There are no easy decisions here and this is the biggest conflicting one. Efforts need to be made to accommodate health care workers' children somehow. We can't lose them from anything other than getting sick from treating the masses which we can plan on happening. We will already be short-staffed and training new ppl rapidly to handle the demand.
What is the end game? I get the “flatten the curve” objective, it’s good and everyone needs to do their part. My question is has anyone defined how flat the curve needs to be specifically, or what the critical mass of people having already been infected and recovered is before society begins to increment back to normalcy (possibly starting with school going back)? Would be nice to know these targets up front...
The most interesting - BY FAR - part of the Ohio Director of Health's comments is her comments regarding evidence that "at least 1% of all Ohioans are currently carrying CoronaVirus."
That means 117K people! 117,000! In a state with 5 reported cases.
Now - IF that 117K number is remotely true, it might be a potentially good thing. Ohio (or America)'s total death rate hasn't increased in any dramatic way in recent days. Now perhaps it will. But if we are currently at 1% we may already be a bit along the x-axis in the "flatten the curve graph."
Maybe the Doctor made a mistake. But that was a very interesting comment from her.
Good point! I am kind of hoping that a lot more people have it than anyone knows about and the mortality rate is lower than reported (again, my hope, no real evidence)
Do you know if there are any details out there on that 1% number? Like is it back calculated somehow from the different people that are known cases?
I don't want to get too ahead of things - her comment may have been a mistake.
But the various mathematical models (I can't believe I'm pulling out my old Grad School statistics books that covered some of this!) have methods for trying to do those back-calculations.
The thing we need - ASAP - is a serology test that can answer the question "how many people who have not been diagnosed with COVID19 (e.g., show up on a case list) actually did go through an infection, recovered, and then cleared the virus from their system."
Knowing that would really help these models.
Lmfao. Trump can't even pronounce serology, let alone get a test sent out to us.
There aren't any benchmarks we can use. The hardest hit parts of China are still closed off.
I imagine a big part of the puzzle will be whether those who are exposed develop antibodies that immunize them (in whole or in part) from future exposure. The supply chain effects will continue to ripple, I suspect, for awhile.
I am not a stats/epidemics expert, but the cases in China and (to a lesser extent) Italy are leveling off. And S. Korea has had few fatalities despite widespread community spread.
I suppose the "optimistic" take is 1 million dead.
China and South Korea have leveled off but Italy hasn’t really yet - 2500 new cases today. But I think they finally will in the coming weeks due to the shutdowns.
2500 today or on Tuesday? NYT said they dropped from Tuesday to Wednesday (to 1500). The spike in the last week is due in part to testing
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps-italy-iran-korea.html
Today. Here's their data.
Thanks that's a great site. If the US can contain it like China it will peak in two to three weeks and level off here.
It basically depends how well people learn from the countries that are already far along the curve. If we do well (and aggressively shutting down gatherings is part of that) things should return to normal over the summer. With a chance of us having to do this shit again in the fall, if past viral epidemics are a model.
That’s what I’m wondering about. We got this in basically the last month of winter this year. Are we going to have to deal with it for an entire winter next year?
I work for one of the larger trucking/transportation companies in the country and our HQ is located in Ohio. Our company just announced today that they aren’t doing anything to accommodate employees with school age children. That the attendance policy will remain the same as it always has. There are going to be a lot of employees losing their jobs because they don’t have anyone to watch their kids during the day now. This whole thing has turned from a global health issue to a class warfare issue. The middle class and lower will be decimated by this if something isn’t done on a state of federal level to ease the burden on working families with s children. Jobs will be lost, homes will be lost, and poverty will rise. I hope to god other companies in this state and/or country are taking care of their employees better than mine is. Prayers for all.
Plus if the truckers can't work, how will any store shelves stay full?
March 12th, 2020 at 10:36 PM ^
Wow. That's ridiculous. Its a shitty position for truck managers and drivers. But straight firing people? Yea that'll get everything delivered and your trucking/delivery contracts renewed.